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Judge Stays Most of Ohio Gay Marriage Ruling
ABC News ^ | 04/16/2014 | AMANDA LEE MYERS

Posted on 04/16/2014 10:01:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Ohio officials must immediately recognize the same-sex marriages of four couples who sued over the state's gay marriage ban, a federal judge said Wednesday, while staying the broader effects of his ruling to avoid "premature celebration and confusion" in case it's overturned on appeal.

Judge Timothy Black stayed his ruling ordering Ohio to recognize the marriages of gay couples who wed in other states pending appeal in the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati. The appeals process likely will take months.

Had Black not issued the stay, all married gay couples living in Ohio would have been able to immediately begin obtaining the same benefits as any other married couple in the state, including property rights and the right to make some medical decisions for each other.

Black said the stay does not apply to the four couples who filed the February lawsuit that led to the court case and ordered Ohio to immediately list both spouses in each relationship as parents on their children's birth certificates.

In explaining the stay, Black said that although he doesn't think the state's appeal will succeed, there is still a chance the 6th Circuit could overturn his decision.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: blackrobedtyrants; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; ohio
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1 posted on 04/16/2014 10:01:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s just a matter of time now, before the SUPREME Court takes up the issue of same sex marriage again.

Since last year’s rulings on the subject, numerous states have been sued in..federal court over their marriage laws. I think every single decision has been that states must allow homosexual marriage. THE lower federal courts are deciding that there is a constitutional right to same sex marriage, even though the Supreme Court last year side stepped that precise legal issue.


2 posted on 04/16/2014 10:05:45 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (Im)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is just outrageous that a federal judge can usurp what has been a state-by-state battle for gay marriage. Does this mean that the feds can take over any law making and writing when they disagree with state’s rights?


3 posted on 04/16/2014 10:07:08 AM PDT by grania
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To: SeekAndFind

This ruling is a direct challenge to the part of the Defense of Marriage Act which says that states don’t have to recognize each others’ same sex marriages.


4 posted on 04/16/2014 10:08:30 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (Im)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“It’s just a matter of time now, before the SUPREME Court takes up the issue of same sex marriage again.”

Yep. And that will be the final blow.

Jut remember that Roberts used to do pro bono work in favor of gay rights.

The warning signs were all there for everyone to see...


5 posted on 04/16/2014 10:09:41 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

6 posted on 04/16/2014 10:11:58 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: grania

Yes, it means that only federal judges are allowed to define marriage, in this politically correct world we live in. Yes, federal judges can overturn any laws which violate political correctness.

As we see, it doesn’t matter what state laws say about marriage, or even what federal laws say about marriage. Liberal judges have decided that we should have nationwide homosexual marriage. Unless overturned by the Supreme Court, we will soon have 50 state homosexual marriage, and states will not be allowed to set their own laws regarding marriage and family law. That’s where we are headed..


7 posted on 04/16/2014 10:12:03 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (Im)
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To: SeekAndFind
"...list both spouses in each relationship as parents on their children's birth certificates"

Are men now able to have babies from their rear ends or something?
8 posted on 04/16/2014 10:12:44 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

RE: This ruling is a direct challenge to the part of the Defense of Marriage Act

The Obama administration has all but scuttled this law.

Just look at what happened after Obummer became President...

* The Obama administration announced in 2011 that it had concluded Section 3 was unconstitutional and that although the administration would continue to enforce the law while it existed, it would no longer defend the law in court.

* In United States v. Windsor (2013), the U.S. Supreme Court declared Section 3 of DOMA unconstitutional under the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment.

DOMA has in effect — NO TEETH.


9 posted on 04/16/2014 10:13:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just in case anybody is wondering.

15 days after the Ypsilanti Michigan “hate crime” attack on the lesbian woman there is still nothing in the news about arrests or suspects. I check daily.


10 posted on 04/16/2014 10:20:39 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
"...final blow..." Should that word be used in discussing this?
11 posted on 04/16/2014 10:24:43 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nullify unconstitutional federal court decisions.


12 posted on 04/16/2014 10:30:40 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: SeekAndFind; All

What’s worse, an activist judge who wrongly legislates constitutionally unprotected gay “rights” from the bench, or Constitution-ignorant elected state “leaders” and the citizens who elected them who have evidently never been taught that the states have never amended the Constitution to expressly protect so-called gay rights?


13 posted on 04/16/2014 10:32:09 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: cripplecreek

I just assumed that the alleged attack on the “lesbian” was a hoax. There have been so many hoaxes of alleged attacks against politically correct grievance groups, that I just assume they are hoaxes.

What does it say about these groups such as homosexuals or blacks, who perpetrate hoaxes, to try to show hatred which doesn’t exist?

What does it say about allegedly hateful conservatives, who are not actually perpetrating these hate crimes?


14 posted on 04/16/2014 10:36:34 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (Im)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
and states will not be allowed to set their own laws regarding marriage

Ironic when "State's rights" was the argument AGAINST a constitutional marriage amendment ten years ago!

15 posted on 04/16/2014 10:38:01 AM PDT by massmike ("You only live once, but it does help if you get to be young twice.")
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To: massmike

The liberals will change the criteria to whatever best helps their position at the time.

Years ago, they were in favor of states rights for marriage, because they didn’t want a constitutional aamendment imposing only opposite sex marriage on the country.

But today, they are against states rights because they want federal judges to impose same sex marriage on the whole country.

Liberals have no consistent positions or values, as far as procedures, processes.

eant


16 posted on 04/16/2014 10:43:28 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (Im)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
What does it say about these groups such as homosexuals or blacks, who perpetrate hoaxes, to try to show hatred which doesn’t exist?

I call those the only true hate crimes. A false crime is created with the express intent of blaming another group for no other reason than for political leverage. It should be a serious felony.
17 posted on 04/16/2014 10:43:54 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
Are men now able to have babies from their rear ends or something?

Somebody is definitely pulling something from that orifice.

18 posted on 04/16/2014 10:47:56 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Beat Lamar! And, if that doesn't work, let's defeat him in the primary.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
The liberals will change the criteria to whatever best helps their position at the time.

That is the fact, and it is why we need conservatives at every level of government, from city government, to county, state, and federal, in party leadership, and conservative positions in the party platform.

19 posted on 04/16/2014 10:58:48 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

Amend the constitution .


20 posted on 04/16/2014 11:03:19 AM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: grania
It is just outrageous that a federal judge can usurp what has been a state-by-state battle for gay marriage.

There are roughly 800-900 Article III federal judges.

Why do you think the Left has made it a goal of theirs to inundate these judgeships with Lefties?

Meanwhile, the Left's media only trumpets the headline:

"A federal judge today ruled..."

No name, no attribution - just one of The Nine Hundred. "Their Word is like unto the Word of a God".

21 posted on 04/16/2014 11:04:25 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: SADMILLIE

Libertarians support gay marriage by opposing any action whatsoever, they oppose DOMA, and a Constitutional amendment, and their presidential candidate is calling to drop opposition to gay marriage, as he runs for the office that oversees, gay marriage in the military, in federal employment and immigration.


22 posted on 04/16/2014 11:16:10 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

First that’s a lot of overgeneralizing lies.

Second you ignore the gospel. Government has presumed to do what only the church actually could.


23 posted on 04/16/2014 11:17:35 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Being against gay marriage represents gospel, it isn’t against GOD.

Arguing desperately to preserve gay marriage and libertarian’s war against Christian conservatism, is anti-God, to try and claim God for gay marriage at the federal level in America, is pure Satanism.

We have gay marriage in the military, federal employment, and immigration, don’t fight to preserve it, join us in fighting against it.


24 posted on 04/16/2014 11:22:50 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m so confused. Reading articles and threads on the BLM vs. Bundy you’d think the rule of “law” was the most important thing in the world.

Except when it’s about gay marriage I see! So confusing. /s


25 posted on 04/16/2014 11:26:42 AM PDT by Fledermaus (I support Joe Carr in the TN GOP Primary against Lamar!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ohio needs to tell the federal judge to shove it. Give him a copy of the Tenth Amendment.


26 posted on 04/16/2014 11:26:53 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: ansel12

You have a short circuit in your brain and in your soul.

Sometimes a people has sinned itself into a position so weak that a frontal attack is doomed; and God Himself determines that. The hugest sin is stealing, and if you can point to anyone who is even half as serious as the Pauls about ending the stealing, feel freeeeeeeeeee.


27 posted on 04/16/2014 11:27:55 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Within minutes of same-sex marriage passing, polygamy will be on the docket. We have foreign professors asking about constantly.


28 posted on 04/16/2014 11:28:41 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It is Satanic for you to keep fighting to preserve gay marriage at the federal level and claim to be doing it in the name of God.


29 posted on 04/16/2014 11:30:10 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

It is Satanic for you to lie about me and lie about liberty and lie about those who fight for liberty.


30 posted on 04/16/2014 11:30:54 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: AppyPappy; HiTech RedNeck
Within minutes of same-sex marriage passing, polygamy will be on the docket. We have foreign professors asking about constantly.

See the posts above yours, some will be defending polygamy in the name of Christ.

31 posted on 04/16/2014 11:32:17 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

If lies don’t do the trick then you pile on the innuendo.

How about attending to first things first. Then you will get all manner of evils eliminated.

Sometimes frontal attacks ARE DOOMED and God dooms them on purpose!


32 posted on 04/16/2014 11:33:32 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

How can it be a lie, your posts are right on this thread.

We need a presidential candidate who opposes gay marriage at the federal level for the military, federal employment and immigration, you desperately oppose that, and have for at least a decade.

The only thing that has changed in your arguments, is this fairly new, ‘In the name of Christ stop opposing gay marriage’.


33 posted on 04/16/2014 11:36:12 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

My posts are right here, and so are your misreadings of them.

I set both out boldly before God to judge. I don’t think you are going to look that good because you are for the exaltation of yourself and of man.

I am for the exaltation of God. That exaltation was thrown away decades ago with the large, stealing, nanny government.


34 posted on 04/16/2014 11:38:17 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ansel12

How about “in the name of Christ stop the existing sins and then and only then you will find yourself with power to leave gay marriage in the dustbin of history.”


35 posted on 04/16/2014 11:40:00 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I am for the exaltation of God. That exaltation was thrown away decades ago with the large, stealing, nanny government.

The creepiest defense of gay marriage and gay marriage candidates on freerepublic, or anywhere on the planet, 'gay marriage in the name of Christ'.

36 posted on 04/16/2014 11:47:20 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

Libertarianism is based on the idea that “In theory, everyone is basically good and if left to their own devices, they will resort to doing good”. In the Libertarian world, you could put a prison half-way house for sex offenders next to an elementary school.

I remember a Libertarian telling me that they supported no-fault easy divorce because “that way, no one gets hurt”. A rather typical mindset.


37 posted on 04/16/2014 12:02:07 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: ansel12

Read your bible... look at what happened when the Israelites attempted to fight with “sin in the tent.” Their enemies drove them back and God ignored their weeping.

Unlike gay marriage, which you didn’t ask for and can’t be blamed for, government stealing went on with your votes for decades.


38 posted on 04/16/2014 12:05:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: AppyPappy

Nannytarianism is based on the idea that people have no Savior and need a human government to order their lives.


39 posted on 04/16/2014 12:06:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Jim Robinson

You support gay marriage, and rather fiercely.

This is a political forum, we do politics here, and politics make laws, you just recently won gay marriage in the military, federal employment, and immigration, and in some states, and now you fight like the devil to keep it.

We oppose it and want to fight it, and you fight us.


40 posted on 04/16/2014 12:11:20 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yeah but there is no Nannytarianism party or movement.


41 posted on 04/16/2014 12:14:25 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: ansel12; Jim Robinson

Jim,

How long are you going to tolerate this liar ansel12?

I said that the battle we need to fight first are probably the sins that we’ve already indulged in. Not the sins that we never asked for. Face it, we’ve cheered on a fatter and fatter government for decades. If someone other than Paul has bariatric surgery for it in mind, please point that someone out.


42 posted on 04/16/2014 12:14:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: AppyPappy

It’s your own frame of mind, unfortunately.


43 posted on 04/16/2014 12:15:14 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ansel12

I am trying to direct the fight in the effectual direction.

THOU SHALT NOT STEAL
THOU SHALT NOT COVET

sound familiar???

Oh, when we do it on a gummit level it’s now ok?

Paul is only “revolutionary” in that he’s brought up these long ignored truths.

You are going to find yourself beating your heads on the walls of Jericho until you get the sins you’ve already long indulged OUT of the tent!


44 posted on 04/16/2014 12:20:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Just sayin’.


45 posted on 04/16/2014 12:25:31 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy

Nobody intentionally does that... you’re right it would sound silly.

But we’ve invited that camel of sin into our tent. A couple years ago I saw a letter that had been written by FDR to persuade churches to back government Social Security. The copy I saw was addressed personally to the pastor of an old Baptist church in Maryland, a church that I was visiting at the time I worked in Maryland.

Hackles should have gone up at the churches. This is a charity issue... why are we outsourcing to Caesar?


46 posted on 04/16/2014 12:29:28 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: AppyPappy

And I can say why they wanted to outsource to Caesar... because it would cut their own lives out of the loop. It gets so INCONVENIENT at times to contribute to charity. Just let Washington cut some checks, it is so neat and clean.

Except oops, it isn’t.


47 posted on 04/16/2014 12:32:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You aren’t here to convert us Christians to Christianity, you are here to try different strategies to get us to stop opposing gay marriage and libertarianism, and the Pauls.

While we practice Christianity, we also support Christian and conservative politics, we oppose social liberalism and the left’s war against America and God, and our politics represent that.

If you oppose gay marriage in the military, in federal employment, and immigration, then join us, if not, then keep fighting us and telling us that it is more Godly to allow gay marriage.


48 posted on 04/16/2014 12:38:05 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: AppyPappy

And so anyhow. It’s because people were so willing to believe in government, that government ever was considered to be worthy of approaching with a request that “gay marriage” be instituted.

And glory hog that it was, it stepped right up to that plate. Oh we’re the Bestower of Rights! Lets grant these Poor Unfortunate People what they so Deserve!

Phfft. If government wasn’t so arrogant, it wouldn’t be so capable of being evil like that.


49 posted on 04/16/2014 12:38:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ansel12
You aren’t here to convert us Christians to Christianity

Except, of course, that I am. I want you to repent. And repenting means to stop lying and stop stealing.

50 posted on 04/16/2014 12:39:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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