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Obama administration’s ‘Culture of intimidation’ seen in Nevada ranch standoff
Washington Times ^ | April 15, 2014 | By Valerie Richardson

Posted on 04/16/2014 12:06:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Sending scores of armed agents along with helicopters and dogs to confront an elderly Nevada rancher over grazing fees may seem like overkill, but critics say it’s not inconsistent with the federal government’s recent approach to environmental enforcement.

The simmering truce between the Bundys and the Bureau of Land Management comes after high-profile raids last year by armed federal agents on small-time gold miners in tiny Chicken, Alaska, and guitar makers at the Gibson Guitar facilities in Tennessee.

That doesn’t include more subtle threats, such as recent efforts by the Obama administration to raise grazing fees or pressure permit holders to transfer their water rights as a condition of renewal, said Ryan Yates, director of congressional relations for the American Farm Bureau.

“Some have called it a culture of intimidation,” Mr. Yates said. “It’s issue after issue, threat after threat. It’s becoming harder and harder to keep those operations in business.”

The atmosphere was quiet but tense Tuesday at the Bundy ranch near Bunkerville, Nev., just days after Bureau of Land Management chief Neil Kornze pulled federal agents off the property and returned about 400 head of cattle to rancher Cliven Bundy.

A BLM spokesman said the agency would work to resolve the dispute “administratively and judicially,” but so far Bundy supporters aren’t buying it. Patrols of armed supporters remained at the ranch on the lookout for the return of BLM agents, instead of heeding calls from lawmakers to disband and return home, according to KLAS-TV in Las Vegas.

That may be in part because Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid warned Monday that “it’s not over.”

Meanwhile, former Rep. Ron Paul, Texas Republican, told Fox News he worried the federal government could hit back hard at the Bundy ranch.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: blm; bundy; bundyranch; fascism; govtabuse; nevada; obama; powergrab
“The other thing is, governments don’t give up their power easily, and they may well come back with a lot more force, like they did at Waco with the Davidians,” said Mr. Paul, referring to the deadly 1993 federal raid on the Branch Davidian compound. “So I don’t know which way it’s going, but so far, so good.”
1 posted on 04/16/2014 12:06:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

So true, Jim.


2 posted on 04/16/2014 12:12:52 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Jim Robinson

My sources say some of those on patrol are Oath Keepers. Retired Special Forces types. BLM wannabe thugcops will get chewed to dirt if they cross those boys. Unlike the BLM thugs, they are ALL cattle. No hat required.


3 posted on 04/16/2014 12:15:20 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Jim Robinson
When one of the Roman territories would rebel against central authority, the Legions would kill every man (except one), woman and child. They would burn the cities to the ground and salt the fields.

Then they would send the one out, well provisioned, to tell the tale.

4 posted on 04/16/2014 12:15:36 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Jim Robinson; All

“Obama administration’s ‘Culture of intimidation’ seen in Nevada ranch standoff”

So they feel real bold picking on couple American ranchers...but I don’t see that same “culture of intimidation” when it comes Putin, hummmm, I wonder why.

*crickets*


5 posted on 04/16/2014 12:17:09 PM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: Mariner
The point is, when they return to Bunkerville, and they will, they want it on national TV. 7x24.

Because they are stupid, inflated by hubris, they think they can get away with it.

6 posted on 04/16/2014 12:18:27 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Jim Robinson

Bill Clinton even called Barry a Chicago thug.


7 posted on 04/16/2014 12:18:53 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Jim Robinson
David versus Goliath, again. Game on!


8 posted on 04/16/2014 12:19:08 PM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: Jim Robinson

Did they do any different vis-a-vis intimidation with park rangers and barrycades during the 15% government shutdown?


9 posted on 04/16/2014 12:21:52 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: GalaxieFiveHundred
How to surprise the feds, causing them to allocate too few resources:

1. Leave your cell phone turned on and plugged in...at home. Stop by the local Wally World and buy as many Waqlkie-Talkies as you can afford, with extra batteries. Do so with the big wad of cash you removed (or, ideally have stashed in the gun safe). 2. While Walkie Talkies are easily listened to, it's not anywhere on the scale that has been built by the feds for cell phones. Keep transmissions to 10 seconds or less.

3. Drive to the site, using only cash along the way...in your old hunting truck. Not the new one full of computers and transmitters.

SURPRISE!

10 posted on 04/16/2014 12:33:01 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Jim Robinson

Obama reserves his real hate and anger for Americans.

He gets tough with law abiding citizens but is a cream puff on the world stage.


11 posted on 04/16/2014 12:35:13 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The future ain't what it use to be -- Yogi Berra)
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To: Mariner
4. Leave the short-barreled tactical stuff at home. You never want to be that close to them. Bring that great hunting rifle with good glass...tuned to <1MOA.

5. Get up on the hillsides...as stealthily as possible in daylight. Take a space blanket to cover yourself at night, because at night you are a helpless target. Cover all ingress and egress roads.

6. Tell nobody what your plans are unless you've known them for more than 20 years and trust them with your life.

Do not initiate fire unless the firing has already begun nearby.

12 posted on 04/16/2014 12:39:54 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Jim Robinson

I agree. We are interpreting a strategic retreat from a superior force as a victory, when it was at best a reconnaissance to determine what will be needed to defeat the enemy.


13 posted on 04/16/2014 12:49:37 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Jim Robinson

Why is the effing Fed.gov so concerned with keeping AMERICANS off public land, if they don’t care how many MEXICANS get in? Why don’t they send the BLM to guard the Southern border???


14 posted on 04/16/2014 1:21:31 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: 2harddrive

The most import thing to have happen in the Bundy case will be to INSURE that Dirty Harry no longer controls ANYTHING. He needs to be permanently put out to pasture.

We all know he rigged the election the last time by intimidating “union” workers, forcing them to vote for him, and that he would do so again. The man is corrupt and power hungry. Get enough people behind Clevis Bundy and maybe even the union workers would support Bundy and “out” Reid.


15 posted on 04/16/2014 1:54:14 PM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Mariner
The point is, when they return to Bunkerville, and they will, they want it on national TV. 7x24. Because they are stupid, inflated by hubris, they think they can get away with it.

In all honesty, I was hoping a few of the front line BLMers would get killed. Its about time the American people started literally fighting back against federal tyranny. It would only take a few occurrences before people in the IRS, EPA, BLM and other agencies stopped to think about carrying the water for the anti-American liberals of this country.

16 posted on 04/16/2014 1:58:00 PM PDT by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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To: Jim Robinson

Wake up, America. How will you eat if there are no farmers, ranchers, and other food producers? That’s the direction we are headed. Agenda 21 demands it.

Your rooftop gardens are not enough for everyone in the city. Your garden at home is not enough for your small town. What do you think will happen when you are the only grower of food in your neighborhood?

Once there are no more independent growers and producers, how will you justify feeding your children GMOs from Monsanto? Will you be comfortable with that? Will you comfortable with yeast compounds, soy, and other substitutes for real food?

The real issue is that the culture of intimidation is pushing real food producers out of business. Better stand with Bundy and the others now.


17 posted on 04/16/2014 2:16:28 PM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of liberty only to see marxism elected at home.)
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To: piytar

They’ll think twice if the first time they go to “intimidating” someone again, a half dozen red lazer spots appear on their chest and head.


18 posted on 04/16/2014 2:19:10 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Mariner

concerning #1.

Motorola DTR and repurposed Nextel phones operating in Direct Connect mode are best.


19 posted on 04/16/2014 3:47:46 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: 2harddrive

Because Democrats are convinced that illegals will vote Democrat—and now, they know that ranchers will vote Republican—or Tea Party.

IMO, the Tea Party has been given a great platform on a silver platter.


20 posted on 04/16/2014 4:51:24 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: 2harddrive

Why is the effing Fed.gov so concerned with keeping AMERICANS off public land, if they don’t care how many MEXICANS get in?

**************

Because we are being trained. They think.


21 posted on 04/16/2014 6:56:57 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Jim Robinson

22 posted on 04/16/2014 7:36:24 PM PDT by stirrinthepuddin
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To: piytar

I think there are a lor of oathkeepers there and they are asking for more to come so they can rotate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMqBmo1sYBc


23 posted on 04/17/2014 12:15:52 AM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: MarMema

lot


24 posted on 04/17/2014 12:17:54 AM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: Jim Robinson

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3145256/posts

Jim, I posted this yesterday after having been absent from your forum for several years. This story got me thinking all over again.

This interview was conducted with Wayne Hage at the Pine Creek Ranch in Nevada. One of America’s largest ranches, it stretches over 1100 square miles (approx. 760,00 acres). From the time Hage and his family bought the ranch in June 1978 until 2009, they battled the US Government and various environmental agencies over the grazing and water rights, ultimately prevailing at the US Supreme Court level.

Part 1 & 2 combined are about 2 hours in length. Grab some coffee, and just listen to Wayne. May he rest in peace knowing that his interview is finally being heard by the Republic for which he fought for.


25 posted on 04/17/2014 7:46:53 AM PDT by Chattering Class of 58
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To: MrB

They’ll think twice if the first time they go to “intimidating” someone again, a half dozen red lazer spots appear on their chest and head.

IMHO that would not be the best way. Seeing patriot weapons at low ready should be enough to clue them in. Jeff Coopers second rule. Do not point the weapon at anything you are not ready to destroy.

Before the fedcoats start shooting at the group, I am not ready to destroy the target. Therefore the weapon stays in the low ready position, pointing in a safe direction.

26 posted on 04/17/2014 9:40:42 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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