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Feds accused of leaving trail of wreckage after Nevada ranch standoff
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Posted on 04/16/2014 1:03:05 PM PDT by navysealdad

Fox News toured the damage -- allegedly caused by the Bureau of Land Management -- which included holes in water tanks and destroyed water lines and fences. According to family friends, the bureau's hired "cowboys" also killed two prize bulls.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: blm; bundy; bundyranch; corruption; fascism; govtabuse; nevada
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1 posted on 04/16/2014 1:03:05 PM PDT by navysealdad
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To: navysealdad

Where’s the Lone Ranger when you need him?


2 posted on 04/16/2014 1:10:07 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: navysealdad

Cattlegate Investigation - That’s what is called for. If they can go after Chris Christie with nothing more than a suspicion and call it Bridgegate, then this should be enough to get the ball rolling - especially when tied to the shenanigans of Harry Reid and his son.


3 posted on 04/16/2014 1:11:58 PM PDT by impactplayer
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To: navysealdad

Wanton destruction. Sherman through Georgia. This is the behavior of a government at war with the citizenry and intending to crush any will to resist.


4 posted on 04/16/2014 1:12:23 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: navysealdad
bureau's hired "cowboys"

I guess if there are still Cowboys these days there must still be Saddle Tramps as well.
5 posted on 04/16/2014 1:12:26 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: navysealdad
Now he owes them $640 million?

This is the same government that brought you Ruby Ridge and Waco. What is their next move now?

6 posted on 04/16/2014 1:12:50 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: navysealdad

Every group always has some over the top trigger happy cowboys,, but shooting prize bulls? That is low.


7 posted on 04/16/2014 1:13:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Truth29

“...He has endeavored to prevent the population of these states; for that purpose obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migration hither, and raising the conditions of new appropriations of lands.

He has obstructed the administration of justice, by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers.

He has made judges dependent on his will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, standing armies, without the consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the military independent of, and superior to, the civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our Constitution and unacknowledged by our laws, giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation:

For quartering large bodies of armed troops
among us;

For protecting them, by a mock trial, from punishment for any murders which they should commit on the inhabitants of these states;

For cutting off our trade with all parts of the world;

For imposing taxes on us without our consent;

For depriving us, in many cases, of the benefits of trial by jury;

For transporting us beyond seas, to be tried for pretended offenses;

For abolishing the free system of English laws in a neighboring province, establishing therein an arbitrary government, and enlarging its boundaries, so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these colonies;

For taking away our charters, abolishing our most valuable laws, and altering fundamentally the forms of our governments...”


8 posted on 04/16/2014 1:15:30 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: stars & stripes forever

Good thing Uncle Joe Biden wasn’t there. Talk about being
full of bull.

What a travesty of ‘justice’.. Over what, cowpies and grass?


9 posted on 04/16/2014 1:15:56 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

At this time of year, shouldn’t the Prize Bulls be hanging out around the barn, on retainer?


10 posted on 04/16/2014 1:16:48 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: navysealdad

“Documents show the BLM paid a Utah cattle wrangler $966,000 to collect Bundy’s cattle and a Utah auctioneer to sell them.”

Good Grief.


11 posted on 04/16/2014 1:17:23 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: navysealdad

The BLM’s new motto: “We’re more destructive than `undocumented immigrants’ and bigger jackboots than the DEA.”


12 posted on 04/16/2014 1:18:01 PM PDT by tumblindice (Are all Democrats inveterate, habitual liars?)
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To: navysealdad

Don’t make me send Mr. Poo after you, feds...


13 posted on 04/16/2014 1:18:53 PM PDT by WayneS (Help Control Politician Overpopulation - Spay or Neuter Your Senator or Congressman Today!)
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To: navysealdad
...says Bundy owes $200 per day per head for every day he fails to move his cattle. That amounts to roughly $640 million in damages owed to the federal government...

That's more than half a billion dollars the feds say a rancher owes for disobeying their orders and allowing his cattle to graze on the King's land.
14 posted on 04/16/2014 1:20:32 PM PDT by caligatrux
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To: lacrew

For 400 head of cattle.

That’s almost $2,500 per...


15 posted on 04/16/2014 1:21:41 PM PDT by WayneS (Help Control Politician Overpopulation - Spay or Neuter Your Senator or Congressman Today!)
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To: navysealdad

Communists run BLM knows no law but act like brown shirts in Germany’s past. They should not have body armor and assault weapons and take the posture of SWAT. The Federal Government should not be allowed to charge fee without the approval of the House and Senate. Otherwise we have lost representation on what this government can do to destroy anyone. Something is wrong here and has become evident more with this current communists control.


16 posted on 04/16/2014 1:25:25 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Paladin2

It’s a shame! They ain’t cheap.

6 figure bulls and then some exist..


17 posted on 04/16/2014 1:25:47 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: lacrew

Fortunately the State of Utah would not let the BLM bring any cattle in their state for auction.


18 posted on 04/16/2014 1:28:45 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Ruby Ridge was shrouded in trees. Waco happened inside walls. It takes a little more planning when dealing on the open range.


19 posted on 04/16/2014 1:28:57 PM PDT by Dexter Morgan (Everyone hides who they are.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I fear that in the end, Bundy will loose not only his cattle but his ranch as well. The BLM bastards, spurred on by Dirty Harry Reid will do what ever they can to reduce that rancher to dust. It is their plan and they WILL carry it out. The only saving grace to all this is that perhaps a Federal appeals court will take the issue on and reverse the decision against Bundy which, we all know is highly unlikely.
20 posted on 04/16/2014 1:29:21 PM PDT by DaveA37
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To: NormsRevenge

I’m still wondering if Bundy had any kind of controlled Genealogical breading program.


21 posted on 04/16/2014 1:29:51 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Dexter Morgan

Well, they could put roadblocks on the roads and declare a no fly zone. Wait a minute...


22 posted on 04/16/2014 1:30:24 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: Progov
I fear that in the end, Bundy will loose not only his cattle but his ranch as well. The BLM bastards, spurred on by Dirty Harry Reid will do what ever they can to reduce that rancher to dust.

I fear the same. They have been embarassed and forced to back down. THey will be aching for payback.


23 posted on 04/16/2014 1:31:29 PM PDT by caligatrux (...some animals are more equal than others.)
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To: Paladin2

Prize bulls can be productive, even when not there in person.

Artificial insemination may not be as gratifying for the bull, but it produces a lot of calves. (Which makes the Bull worth multiples of what it would be worth if it had to do all the work in person).

Wanton destruction of facilities and livestock is serious business out this way. As for $200.00 per animal per day in damages, I think the BLM needs to show just what was damaged.


24 posted on 04/16/2014 1:33:31 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: navysealdad

Where’s the special prosecutor?


25 posted on 04/16/2014 1:35:26 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Smokin' Joe
That's what i'm thinking.

Why have the prize bulls out on the open range rather than being pampered at home under a watchful eye?

26 posted on 04/16/2014 1:36:37 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Progov
I fear that in the end, Bundy will loose not only his cattle but his ranch as well. The BLM bastards, spurred on by Dirty Harry Reid will do what ever they can to reduce that rancher to dust.

Then it may come time to play a little game folks out west call "Hangman".

I'll start:
H_rr_ R__d

Anybody wanna buy a vowel?

27 posted on 04/16/2014 1:37:29 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: caligatrux

The main lesson, hopefully not lost on the American people, was that many people traveled, in some instances 1000’s of miles, to stand up to armed BLM people. Americans stood up to a corrupt government. The fact that Bundy may be in violation of various court orders is irrelevant. The Boston Tea Party was illegal under British law.


28 posted on 04/16/2014 1:37:39 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: caligatrux
That's more than half a billion dollars the feds say a rancher owes for disobeying their orders and allowing his cattle to graze on the King's land.

You have to put things in perspective... $640 million won't even buy you a functioning health care website these days.

29 posted on 04/16/2014 1:39:20 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Smokin' Joe
"As for $200.00 per animal per day in damages, I think the BLM needs to show just what was damaged."

From the info I've seen, if the tortoises were the pampered species, the BLM should be paying Bundy to have his cattle transport and distribute water and food out into the desert to serve the Turtles..

30 posted on 04/16/2014 1:39:25 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Tijeras_Slim
"$640 million won't even buy you a functioning Government health care website these days. "
31 posted on 04/16/2014 1:40:39 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: rjsimmon

Ya forgot R_st__r.


32 posted on 04/16/2014 1:41:45 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: lacrew; Elsie

“Documents show the BLM paid a Utah cattle wrangler $966,000 to collect Bundy’s cattle and a Utah auctioneer to sell them.”
___________________________________________

Deseret Ranch in Florida ???

owners are in Utah...


33 posted on 04/16/2014 1:43:25 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: lacrew; Elsie

“Documents show the BLM paid a Utah cattle wrangler $966,000 to collect Bundy’s cattle and a Utah auctioneer to sell them.”
___________________________________________

Deseret Ranch in Florida ???

owners are in Utah...

Just another Harry Reid connection...


34 posted on 04/16/2014 1:43:58 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Nachum

For the list.


35 posted on 04/16/2014 1:47:00 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Yo-Yo

The Fed judge that signed this order needs to be brought to heel. When he signed this he knew it wasn’t right and it could blow up into a political hot potato. He wrote it as a permissive order for the BLM to carryout with the Sheriffs help. Given contracts, Federal land, and asset forfeiture it would have been the U.S. Marshall’s Service to service and enforce. But, the judge did not want the court to be involved and therefore gave it to BLM so it would no be seen as a court action. This is telling and this judge should be questioned. Federal judges are political beast. Was he compromised by Dingy Harry? What other similar orders did he sign in the past? Did Harry push his confirmation to the Federal bench through?


36 posted on 04/16/2014 1:51:09 PM PDT by DeWalt (Times are more like they used to be than they are today.)
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To: Progov; NormsRevenge
I fear that in the end, Bundy will loose not only his cattle but his ranch as well.

It doesn't matter - if he loses the range, he loses the ranch anyway. That ranch is useless without the range land... Which is why he's been fighting for twenty years.

37 posted on 04/16/2014 1:51:34 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: caligatrux

$1.50 per month per AUM (animal unit monthly, a mother and her calf) is the grazing fee. 900 cattle. Lets do some math. $1350 a month for all his cattle. 12 months a year = $16,200 a year. Now 20 Years. $324,000.

How is $324,000 even close to 1million. How would it be feasible to say there are over $676,000. In late fees, and other things?


38 posted on 04/16/2014 1:57:58 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: navysealdad; xzins; Ray76; BuckeyeTexan

Great must see video at source.


39 posted on 04/16/2014 2:07:20 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: navysealdad
Plus he said BLM vehicles appear to have crushed a tortoise burrow near the damaged water tank. "How's that conservation?" he asked. Oops.
40 posted on 04/16/2014 2:16:19 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Tennessee Nana; xzins; Ray76; BuckeyeTexan; Utah Binger; Pete-R-Bilt; Godzilla; glock rocks

The kicker is, according to video at the source, the governor of Utah said no way. You’re not bringing those cattle over the state line!


41 posted on 04/16/2014 2:17:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

From the looks of the bulls, by the time the Bundy’s could get to them, the sperm wouldn’t be any good.

Questions: Could the Bundy’s bill the government for 150 years of work maintaining the land? Could the Bundy’s bill the government for damages done to their land and property by the hired cowboys?


42 posted on 04/16/2014 2:19:25 PM PDT by Humal
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To: navysealdad
Trying to remember, what did they used to do to cattle rustlers back about 100-150 years ago?
If I'm remembering right, seems it was a pretty good solution with no recidivism...........Just saying.
43 posted on 04/16/2014 2:22:33 PM PDT by The Cajun (tea party!!!, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: Jim Robinson

He DID say that. He wants NOTHING TO DO with cattle that were legally stolen!!


44 posted on 04/16/2014 2:24:45 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: navysealdad

However, the court order used to justify the operation appears only to give the agency the authority to “seize and impound” Bundy’s cattle.

“Nowhere in the court order that I saw does it say that they can destroy infrastructure, destroy corrals, tanks ... desert environment, shoot cattle,” Houston said.

Bundy’s friends say the BLM wranglers told them the bulls were shot because they were dangerous and could gore their horses. One bull was shot five times.


45 posted on 04/16/2014 2:28:02 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Gotta like that guy.


46 posted on 04/16/2014 2:28:10 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Note that “seize and impound” does not include any assertion of force or brutality!


47 posted on 04/16/2014 2:30:09 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: NormsRevenge
Good thing Uncle Joe Biden wasn’t there.

His advice is to shoot a shotgun into the air to scare away the bad guys!

48 posted on 04/16/2014 2:32:21 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: navysealdad

This is the hypocrisy and stupidity from the Feds that drives me truly nuts.


49 posted on 04/16/2014 2:33:09 PM PDT by Noamie
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
The main lesson, hopefully not lost on the American people, was that many people traveled, in some instances 1000’s of miles, to stand up to armed BLM people.

Jarbidge Shovel Brigade

50 posted on 04/16/2014 2:34:14 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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