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WW3? Drudge loses it.

Posted on 04/16/2014 1:40:46 PM PDT by dangus

The Drudge Report always has its fun with misuse of images. But World War III is no laughing matter. In an attempt to paint Russia as hurtling us towards World War III, Drudge shows a picture of troops marching through the Ukraine, wearing Soviet-era uniforms. But the picture is out of context.

The picture is, in fact, from Odessa. Yes, there are significant numbers of Russophones. Yes, many of them may favor secession. Yes, some of the secessionists may have the same kind of romanticism for the Soviets that their Ukrainian neighbors have for the Nazi Banderites. But that's not what this picture shows.

This is a re-enactment of the liberation of Odessa from the Germans during WWII. Despite the popularity in some extremist corners of the Nazi-aligned Banderites, who exterminated a population of 80,000 Poles in one city alone, the Ukraine has always celebrated the day. Those are the uniforms worn by the people who fought off the Nazis during "the Great Patriotic War." The Soviet Union wasn't just Russia: From Trotsky to Brezhnev to Gorbachev, many Soviets were Ukrainians. And despite the horrors of communism, the Ukrainians have annually celebrated those who fought against the Nazis.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: bhorussia; dramaqueen; drudge; ukraine; ww3
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1 posted on 04/16/2014 1:40:46 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Both WWI and WWII both started under lesser situations than what Russia is doing, so it’s not really alarmist or an exaggeration. Either we allow Russia to expand without consequence, which potentially may include all of Europe because that is what the Communists wanted or, at some point, we are going to have to say, “No more”.


2 posted on 04/16/2014 1:43:46 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: dangus
WWIII? Oh, it's coming. But as the guy in the movie Gladiator said, "But not yet."
3 posted on 04/16/2014 1:43:54 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: dangus

After Drudge went all-in for Mitt, I learned to cast a slightly skeptical eye toward his work. HOWEVER,,let me say

UNEQUIVOCALLY

I’d believe a Drudge report over any other report every single day of the week, 24/7.

Drudge, too, has his preferences. It’s all good. Gotta take it for what it is.


4 posted on 04/16/2014 1:44:03 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: dangus

DId you read the article? Did you agree or disagree?


5 posted on 04/16/2014 1:45:43 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: dangus

But you gotta love the tease tags for his links:

86 Million Workers Sustain 148 Million Benefit Takers...

Rubio: Terrorists Training In Syria Could ‘Soon’ Attack USA...

Rapper Cuts Off Penis, Jumps From Balcony In Attempted Suicide...

Cockroaches ‘Rain From Ceiling’ at Manhattan Sushi Restaurant...


6 posted on 04/16/2014 1:45:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: dangus

Nope. It’s the EU that’s pushing us to war by continued expansion to the East. Russia is saying no and the EU wants us to muscle them, economically and militarily.


7 posted on 04/16/2014 1:46:06 PM PDT by ex-snook (God forgives and forgets.)
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To: dangus

No worries, Obama is sending our troops to Nevada to save some turtles being stepped on by cows and ranchers.

Russia will have to wait.


8 posted on 04/16/2014 1:46:42 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: dangus

Perhaps Drudge is just echoing what many Freepers and others have been claiming for some time now....

This could very well be how it all starts.

Maybe so - maybe no. Just don’t shoot the messenger.


9 posted on 04/16/2014 1:46:59 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: dangus

The Pax American is ending.

The godless leaders of a thousand worldwide tyrannies will try to prop up their failed economic systems with value taken by force from their weaker neighbors.

In time, regional conflicts will escalate and major combatants will choose sides.

And the world will be plunged into major war.

History teaches that it has always been this way.


10 posted on 04/16/2014 1:47:19 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: dangus

Prior to WWI, what was one Duke, more or less?


11 posted on 04/16/2014 1:48:52 PM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: dangus
We have been at war with Russia/Communism since the early 1950's. It's continued and is continuing with flashes of open warfare, proxy warfare and the destruction of our country's way of life and rule of law.

He's just being a reporter and reporting what is happening.

12 posted on 04/16/2014 1:50:20 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Well, if you have money to invest....http://www.atk.com/


13 posted on 04/16/2014 1:50:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: dangus

The fascists and communists hate each other, but it’s not necessarily over ideology, per se. They are all Godless totalitarians lusting for power and control over people and economies. They hate each other because they are competing predators against liberty, free people, free society, free enterprise.


14 posted on 04/16/2014 1:50:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: dangus

Yep. There was a thread on FR a couple of weeks ago on the reenactment of the Stalingrad battle. I recall saying at the time that it was not authentic because people in it were clean and smiling... BTT


15 posted on 04/16/2014 1:50:47 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: dangus

In the interest of clarity, it should be noted that the “WWIII” headline came from the title of the Daily Mail article linked to the headline and not from Drudge.


16 posted on 04/16/2014 1:51:20 PM PDT by D_Idaho ("For we wrestle not against flesh and blood...")
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To: dangus

I’ll take “Nazi Banderistas” vs Soviet Leninists any day of the week. Is Ukraine trying to annex Russia? Does Ukraine have the ability or any historical record of trying to conquer the world? Not to my knowledge. In act, it’s spent centuries trying to become independent of Russia. Russia, on the other hand, exists to conquer the world.


17 posted on 04/16/2014 1:52:41 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

you are correct... we have our version of the Visigoths and Goths in our country. I’m just hoping to see the populace rise out of the ghettos of DC and sack/pillage the capitol and the feckless quislings that are our so called “leaders”. I’m getting popcorn and some soda pop to watch that.


18 posted on 04/16/2014 1:52:50 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: dangus

Reenactors...
We have’em, too.


19 posted on 04/16/2014 1:53:13 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: austinaero
Drudge went full conniption mode over Putin's laws against "homosexual proselytism." I'm pretty sure he's a patriotic, American-loving, libertarian homosexual. The left has speculated about it a lot.
20 posted on 04/16/2014 1:54:17 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Some seem to be hot for a war with Russia over what appears to be quickly becoming a Ukrainian civil war.

Personally I have to question the sanity of anyone who wants to get involved in that mess and wanting to get involved in that mess with our current government compounds it about one thousand fold.


21 posted on 04/16/2014 1:54:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Girlene

That’s the comical part. The article it links to has nothing to do with the photo he used. (And yes, I read it. It was entirely ridiculous.)


22 posted on 04/16/2014 1:55:28 PM PDT by dangus
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To: D_Idaho

Yes, but the photo had absolutely nothing to do with the photo used.


23 posted on 04/16/2014 1:56:14 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Responsibility2nd

>> This could very well be how it all starts. <<

Yeah, the comparisons to WWII are ridiculous. OK, so Putin is creating a larger Russia for Russophones, like Germany created a larger Germany for Germanophones. But by 1933, when Hitler siezed the Sudetenland, Hitler was already calling for the extinction of Jews, building concentration camps, etc.

Even IF Putin wanted Kiev, or Poland, or Sweden, or whatever, he’s not foolish enough to think he could effectively govern them. He knows he’d weaken Russia, not strengthen it.


24 posted on 04/16/2014 1:59:52 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

We should not defend a nation is unwilling to defend themselves.


25 posted on 04/16/2014 2:01:38 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: dangus
The West has already sent in their "forces", and they've been successful - without civil war. Here's a partial list:
26 posted on 04/16/2014 2:06:05 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: dangus
Even IF Putin wanted Kiev, or Poland, or Sweden, or whatever, he’s not foolish enough to think he could effectively govern them. He knows he’d weaken Russia, not strengthen it.

Chamberlain presumably had the same "knowledge" about Hitler's intentions as you do about Putin's.

27 posted on 04/16/2014 2:06:39 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: dangus

There is no way Obama will allow any U.S. involvement in any wars that would distract him from his golf time and vacations.

I just don’t see him supporting any foreign military action ever, under any circumstances, even if we are attacked in some fashion. And Putin knows this full well.


28 posted on 04/16/2014 2:07:23 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Jonty30
Either we allow Russia to expand without consequence, which potentially may include all of Europe because that is what the Communists wanted or, at some point, we are going to have to say, “No more”.

Call me when they get to New York.

29 posted on 04/16/2014 2:08:11 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: dangus
Drudge is right. Putin is putting together the old Soviet Union. Recently Russia announced it has the right to intervene militarily anywhere in the old USSR where there are Russian speakers:

Moscow ... has also announced its right to intervene militarily across the former Soviet Union to protect Russian speakers, a new doctrine that has overturned decades of post-Cold War diplomacy.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/russia-putin-ukraine-civil/2014/04/16/id/565985/

30 posted on 04/16/2014 2:14:42 PM PDT by Siegfried X
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To: ex-snook

That is correct. Thanks.


31 posted on 04/16/2014 2:17:03 PM PDT by jammer
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To: dangus

Barack Obama is a Marxist and the son of Marxists. Nothing would make him happier than to see the old Soviet Union put back together, reversing Ronald Reagan’s biggest accomplishment. So Obama sitting on his hands here is professional courtesy: one communist tyrant helping another.


32 posted on 04/16/2014 2:19:35 PM PDT by Siegfried X
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To: Gunslingr3

With their 1 aircraft carrier.

They’ve only got a few ships left in Sevastopol, and from what I’ve read, on some they keep the flags hoisted only so the men can get paid; some of the ships aren’t operational.

Of course out of national pride they’re talking about building up their military, but it’s really a senseless waste of effort.

If America was going to do some “first strike”, it could have been done any time for the last 20 years.

They have their warmongers and we have ours.

And it keeps the financial elites government spending and borrowing programs going nicely, and makes for a lot of fear in the news.


33 posted on 04/16/2014 2:20:22 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: All

Where we need to be worried is because elites in the so-called “free world” now see the world pretty much the same way as Putin and his inner circle, although they may view each other as competitors.

That world view includes the notion that said elites could easily sustain themselves in a post-nuclear world and even design the nuclear war so that most of the actual production of goods remained intact (in Asia). Our elites don’t necessarily need us for anything, except taxes, but they could move to a plan B where only they are left to run resource extraction with selected pools of slave labour (what choice would they have in a post-nuclear world but to follow orders?).

This worries me because if two sets of these predators reached the conclusion that they were no further ahead or behind to start a nuclear war, then most of us would have to resort to extreme survivalist tactics to stand any chance of surviving. Anyone planning this should study most likely radiation patterns carefully, just being “in the wilderness” or back country is no particular guarantee of avoiding radiation levels that would be at least unhealthy if not lethal. For example, anywhere in CA, NV, AZ and much of UT would probably be too close to vast radiation clouds to be a good choice of refuge. I would favour the inland Pacific Northwest or western Canada and there again with a careful choice of location relative to potential targets.

Do I think this is imminent? Not necessarily. The chances of this sort of disaster have probably always been higher than we consciously admit to ourselves, but are not now a great deal higher, just somewhat, and that because of the convergence of aggressive leadership in Moscow and timid, ineffectual leadership in western countries, especially yours.


34 posted on 04/16/2014 2:24:46 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (It wasn't this cold before global warming)
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To: Siegfried X

Obama and Putin have similar goals: a weak and rudderless US


35 posted on 04/16/2014 2:24:48 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: dangus

I love their picture of Hilary today!


36 posted on 04/16/2014 2:27:06 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: dangus

Hey, it’s Drudge! A rather imprudent use of a “stock photo”, but he is trying to make a point...if someone wants the story they click thru to the Daily Mail story that has real photos from the scene. Plus Drudge avoids copyright issues this way! ;-)


37 posted on 04/16/2014 2:30:26 PM PDT by Drago
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To: Jonty30

call me when you enlist, Russia taking over all Europe and kicking the Muslimes out would be a good thing.


38 posted on 04/16/2014 2:30:29 PM PDT by Joe Miner
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To: Jim Robinson

Absolutely nailed it.


39 posted on 04/16/2014 2:34:32 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Siegfried X

... this after NATO increased ITS troop presence in several former Soviet states, a clear violation of treaties. So much for post-Cold War diplomacy.


40 posted on 04/16/2014 2:38:39 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Jim Robinson

Best comment on the true reality I have seen yet. And I am not schmoozing you because this is your site.

I totally agree! If people fail to get what you are saying, they fail to understand the current confusion.


41 posted on 04/16/2014 2:40:09 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Joe Miner
call me when you enlist, Russia taking over all Europe and kicking the Muslimes out would be a good thing.

Considering that Muslims are the fastest growing population in Russia, and Putin's inner circle is replete with Muslims, including Vladislav Surkov and Ramzan Kadyrov, that possibility is remote. Putin has aided and abetted Iran's nuclear program. Unless you think Iranians aren't Muslims, that pokes a big hole in the theory about Putin being a Defender of Christendom. Like the empire-building Tsars and General Secretaries before him, Putin hasn't a sectarian bone in his body. Emperors must embrace their subjects. If Russia were majority Muslim, Putin would convert.

42 posted on 04/16/2014 2:42:31 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: dforest

Thanks. and Obama is one of them. A Godless Marxist/fascist liberty-hating predator.


43 posted on 04/16/2014 2:43:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: dangus
"They live in pitiful hovels which they set up far apart from one another, but, as a general thing, every man is constantly changing his place of abode. When they enter battle, the majority of them go against their enemy on foot carrying little shields and javelins in their hands, but they never wear corselets. Indeed, some of them do not wear even a shirt or a cloak, but gathering their trews up as far as to their private parts they enter into battle with their opponents. And both the two peoples have also the same language, an utterly barbarous tongue. Nay further, they do not differ at all from one another in appearance. For they are all exceptionally tall and stalwart men, while their bodies and hair are neither very fair or blond, nor indeed do they incline entirely to the dark type, but they are all slightly ruddy in color. And they live a hard life, giving no heed to bodily comforts ...".

44 posted on 04/16/2014 2:45:06 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Siegfried X

Your source doesn’t back up your assertion. Meanwhile, the U.S. asserts the right to intervene anywhere in the world that it damn-well pleases, overthrowing the governments of Egypt, Libya and Ukraine (and, failingly, Syria).

Here’s a proposed peace settlement: Let the poll be taken on May 8. No-one born in Russia, even if they moved there during the Soviet era, can vote. Let the international poll-watchers in. Obey the results. (Then let Texas vote to secede from the Obamanation.)


45 posted on 04/16/2014 2:46:39 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Any reason you’re quoting a 5th-century description of the Protoslavs?


46 posted on 04/16/2014 2:48:50 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Any reason you’re quoting a 5th-century description of the Protoslavs?


47 posted on 04/16/2014 2:48:51 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Joe Miner

Don’t worry about it, if there is an impending WW, none of us will be enlisting, because we will,all be drafted. :)


48 posted on 04/16/2014 2:50:24 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jim Robinson

Are you calling the Russians Godless? Or just the Banderites and the neo-Leninists? If you refer to the latter, of course anyone must agree with you. If you refer to the former, I am deeply puzzled at how you could reach that conclusion; the Russians are far more likely to believe in God than most Western European nations.


49 posted on 04/16/2014 2:53:06 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Zhang Fei

You know more than me, I want dead Muslimes, I will never convert to their perverted view.


50 posted on 04/16/2014 2:56:33 PM PDT by Joe Miner
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