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War on the West: Why More Bundy Standoffs Are Coming
The New American ^ | 15 April 2014 | William F. Jasper

Posted on 04/16/2014 4:17:48 PM PDT by VitacoreVision



War on the West: Why More Bundy Standoffs Are Coming

15 April 2014

The recent standoff between the BLM and rancher Cliven Bundy is a symptom of the exasperation of citizens in the Western states over the federal government's massive and oppressive footprint affecting all aspects of their lives.
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Full Story:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/18056-war-on-the-west-why-more-bundy-standoffs-are-coming

(Excerpt) Read more at thenewamerican.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blm; bundy; bundyranch; clivenbundy; landgrab

1 posted on 04/16/2014 4:17:48 PM PDT by VitacoreVision
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To: VitacoreVision
Ultimately, that means decentralizing, and dramatically downsizing (and then abolishing) many of these agencies and returning the land to the states and the people.

Not to mention de-militarizing them.

Each of our "civilian" agencies now has enough military might to support a third-world dictator.

2 posted on 04/16/2014 4:27:33 PM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: VitacoreVision

Bookmarked.


3 posted on 04/16/2014 4:31:03 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: VitacoreVision

“On the 23d of June 1775 Gen Bayley prepared an address to the Northern Indians which is here given in full.

Newbury, Coos June 23 1775: `The present war is only between the King and a part of the Lords and America. The Lords say all Americans shall become slaves or servants to them shall plow no more than they say, eat nor drink nor war nor hunt but only by their leave shall not kill deer,
moose, beaver or any other thing but by their consent.

Americans say they will and that the King by the Lords advice has sent redcoats to kill us if we will not be subject to what they say. And we have thirty thousand men with guns great and small to fight in our defense. We only want to live as we have lived here to fore. We do not want to fight if they would let us alone.’”

“History of Newbury, Vermont: From the Discovery of the Coös Country to ...”
edited by Frederic Palmer Well, p73


4 posted on 04/16/2014 4:34:45 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: VitacoreVision
Video from October of last year with ranchers testifying about the threats and intimidation at the hands of various land management agencies.

Oversight Hearing on “Threats, Intimidation and Bullying by Federal Land Managing Agencies”
5 posted on 04/16/2014 4:36:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: AZLiberty

This militarization of the BLM is beyond ridiculous.


6 posted on 04/16/2014 4:39:53 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: cripplecreek

I’ll be watching your posted video next.

I’m on part 2 of this:

American Rancher Uncut Interview Pt 1, Wayne Hage at Pine Creek 2005

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3145256/posts

At around 10 min. is good background, and at 13 mins, Wayne Hage tells how the Forest Service attempted to provoke him into an armed conflict. Road blocks, riders to gather his cattle, threats of arrest, snipers and cameras, all preplanned to provoke Mr. Hage in order to justify shooting back and finally crushing him.

I think the BLM was attempting the same thing with the Bundy stand off. The BLM wanted a shoot out.


7 posted on 04/16/2014 5:05:55 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: AZLiberty

Yesterday, another thread here stated that the United States Postal Service was ordering millions of rounds of ammunition.

Am am just a person who actually went to a ONE ROOM school in grade school.

Can anyone explain carefully to me what the USPS needs ammo for????


8 posted on 04/16/2014 5:11:28 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Zeneta
Check this out:

Huge Win for Property Owners (2006 interview with Wayne Hage)

The New American
20 March 2006

Unbeknownst even to most legal experts, Wayne Hage has scored a major victory (in Hage v. United States) for ranchers, farmers, and all property owners.
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9 posted on 04/16/2014 5:12:34 PM PDT by VitacoreVision
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To: cripplecreek

Save


10 posted on 04/16/2014 5:14:56 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: VitacoreVision

Thanks,

I’m half way through part 2 of the 2005 interview.

Extraordinary insight from a real American Patriot.


11 posted on 04/16/2014 5:15:43 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: AZLiberty
Each of our "civilian" agencies now has enough military might to support a third-world dictator.

And they do support him.

12 posted on 04/16/2014 5:19:10 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: bunkerhill7
Very well said. So true for today

The Endangered Species Act of 1973 is one of the dozens of United States environmental laws passed in the 1970s. Signed into law by President Richard Nixon on December 28, 1973.

it was designed to protect critically imperiled species from extinction as a "consequence of economic growth and development untempered by adequate concern and conservation."

The U.S. Supreme Court found that "the plain intent of Congress in enacting" the ESA "was to halt and reverse the trend toward species extinction, "whatever the cost."

The Act is administered by two federal agencies, the United States Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

Time for a reboot.

13 posted on 04/16/2014 5:20:49 PM PDT by saywhatagain
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To: VitacoreVision

bump


14 posted on 04/16/2014 5:42:15 PM PDT by gibsosa
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To: cripplecreek

I am curious if Ted Turner, who knows huge amounts of land, has ever been subject to this harassment?


15 posted on 04/16/2014 6:14:57 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Zeneta

knows = owns


16 posted on 04/16/2014 6:15:44 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: VitacoreVision; xzins; BuckeyeTexan; Ray76

Too good not to post:

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, whose personal financial stake in the Bundy eviction has been called into question, let it be known that he wants to see the matter pursued.

“Well, it’s not over,” Reid told NBC’s Nevada affiliate KRNV on Monday, April 14. “We can’t have an American people that violate the law and then just walk away from it. So it’s not over.”

Senator Reid, Nevada’s senior senator, is very incensed when the American people, i.e., ordinary citizens, “violate the law” — as he puts it — but he says nothing about the more serious violations of the laws and the Constitution by public officials, such as himself or the BLM officials.

This is the same federal BLM that Chief Judge Robert C. Jones of the Federal District Court of Nevada last year ruled had been engaged in a decades-long criminal “conspiracy” against the Wayne Hage family, fellow ranchers and friends of the Bundys. Among other things, Judge Jones accused the federal bureaucrats of racketeering under the federal RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corruption Organizations) statute, and accused them as well of extortion, mail fraud, and fraud, in an effort “to kill the business of Mr. Hage.” In fact, the government’s actions were so malicious, said the judge, as to “shock the conscience of the Court.” Judge Jones granted an injunction against the agencies and referred area BLM and Forest Service managers to the Justice Department for prosecution.

Has Attorney General Eric Holder prosecuted any federal officials for criminal activity and violation of the Hage family’s constitutionally protected rights? No. Has Sen. Harry Reid denounced this lawlessness and criminal activity by government officials and call upon President Obama and Attorney General Holder to protect the citizens of his state from the depredations of federal officials under their command? No.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/18045-questions-raised-about-sen-reid-s-connection-to-bundy-ranch-dispute

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/15602-federal-judge-rules-for-property-rights-smacks-down-abusive-feds


17 posted on 04/16/2014 6:31:19 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

The hypocrisy is unbelievable. And why does Rory Reid feel the need to insert himself and mouth off?


18 posted on 04/16/2014 6:38:54 PM PDT by Ray76 (Take over the GOP? You still beg! Forget them. Second Party Now.)
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To: Jim Robinson

The Hage case in shocking. The Feds were attacking anyone who associated with Hage.

Using power in such a way is demonic.


19 posted on 04/16/2014 7:34:41 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: VitacoreVision

If Cloward Piven’s cows are eating government grass, maybe he should contribute government cheese.


20 posted on 04/16/2014 7:52:13 PM PDT by Lisbon1940
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters
Must read at post 17
21 posted on 04/17/2014 3:00:18 AM PDT by lonevoice (We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality)
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To: Jim Robinson

Our post 17 is a must-read.

The Hage case is proof the BLM is out of control and needs to be reined in.

What is disgusting is the near total silence from the GOP in DC and in Nevada.

Between Bundy and the Lerner emails, the GOP has been handed a gold mine to hammer the Dems, Obama and Holder with.

But, they are at a conference to figure out how to fight the REAL enemy, the TEA Party.

And the Nevada GOP is too busy burning the platform planks dealing with social issues.

Spit.


22 posted on 04/17/2014 3:16:39 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Jim Robinson

Our=Your in previous post.


23 posted on 04/17/2014 3:18:00 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: VitacoreVision
“Well, it’s not over,” Reid told NBC’s Nevada affiliate KRNV on Monday, April 14. “We can’t have an American people that violate the law and then just walk away from it. So it’s not over.”

I find this statement absolutely chilling. The way it is phrased, he is not speaking of Bundy or his family, he is delineating a specific "class" or type of American. He sees this class of "an American people" that are lawbreakers because they won't follow the edicts of the federal government.

He is no champion of the law. If he was, he would be fighting for the enforcement of the immigration laws, etc. He is using the "violate the law" language but what he really means is these people won't do what the government has told them to do.

His words clearly convey the message that there is a class of people out there that cannot be allowed to walk around free because they will not bend to the yoke of the federal will. They will not kowtow to federal rule so they much be stopped.

The fact that he characterizes this class of people with the descriptor "American" also tells us something very significant: he believes in an America where the people do what they are told by the government, and he will not tolerate a people who dare to defy that authority based the tenets of real American values such as life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

This is the kind of man that would order a militarized police force to obey fire on patriots who are merely upholding their beliefs in the Constitution and moral justice in spite of federal rules and regulations.

Plus, he's clearly as corrupt as a $3 bill.


24 posted on 04/17/2014 8:09:09 AM PDT by caligatrux (...some animals are more equal than others.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
This militarization of the BLM is beyond ridiculous.

As I recall this began under the stinkin' Clinton regime. At least that's the first I knew of it.

25 posted on 04/17/2014 9:09:20 AM PDT by Sal (The scandals are real. The "president" is a phony.)
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To: VitacoreVision

Bump and bookmark


26 posted on 04/18/2014 10:17:04 AM PDT by FBD
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