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This Incredible New Footage Shows How Close Bundy Standoff Came To A Massacre
Western Journalism ^ | 04/16/2014 | Tom Hinchey

Posted on 04/16/2014 4:38:20 PM PDT by ForYourChildren

This Incredible New Footage Shows How Close Bundy Standoff Came To A Massacre

The inside story of how one New Yorker may have kept the Bundy protestors from a bloody end

Documentary filmmaker Dennis Michael Lynch was at the Bundy Ranch front line and has never seen that type of force at the border where drugs and people are routinely smuggled across.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: blm; bundy; bundyranch; fascism; govtabuse; nevada; standoff
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One thing that I noticed during this whole thing was how the Bundy's and group were not asking, they were demanding. This is appropriate stance to take. You can hear this correct attitude specifically stated on the video.

We do not ask usurped entities that are assuming illegal tyrannical powers over us, we demand. We are in the right, we have the proper and legal authority, and we will make demands. We are not asking.

1 posted on 04/16/2014 4:38:20 PM PDT by ForYourChildren
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To: ForYourChildren
"he Bundy's and group were not asking, they were demanding."

The same approach need to be taken with CongressCritters.

2 posted on 04/16/2014 4:43:13 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: ForYourChildren

We’ll see how the next confrontation of a similar nature goes. And there will be one somewhere. The feds are not going to become less tyrannical. Just the opposite. History has shown that when tyrants are challenged by the “serfs” they double down. I have no doubt that our “masters” will follow that same template.


3 posted on 04/16/2014 4:44:59 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: ForYourChildren

Yup. Outstanding video. And all very true.


4 posted on 04/16/2014 4:47:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I saw a lot of cowboy types with large bore hunting rifles.Once there was lead in the air,it was going to be a mess for everybody involved.


5 posted on 04/16/2014 4:47:51 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

You are absolutely correct!

“The feds are not going to become less tyrannical. Just the opposite. History has shown that when tyrants are challenged by the “serfs” they double down”

And just why do they want to take away our guns?

(Rhetorical question... no need to answer.)


6 posted on 04/16/2014 4:50:38 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a classical Christian approach to homeschool])
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To: ForYourChildren

A good point is made at the end...


7 posted on 04/16/2014 4:51:40 PM PDT by Therapsid
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To: ForYourChildren
We were one gunshot away from Civil War.

Charley Waite: "Well you may not know this, but there's things that gnaw at a man worse than dying." Open Range (2003)

8 posted on 04/16/2014 4:51:45 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: ForYourChildren

Looked like tensions were running about as high as they can get.


9 posted on 04/16/2014 4:52:39 PM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a pessimist, I say plenty of negative things. Consider it a warning of sorts.)
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To: Farmer Dean

No doubt. .300 and even .338 wm at 600 yards from cover vs m-16s is a bad matchup for tactical forest rangers.


10 posted on 04/16/2014 4:53:06 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: ForYourChildren

bkmk


11 posted on 04/16/2014 4:55:41 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: ForYourChildren

I GOT CHILLS UP MY SPINE....

We must get this out viral..I just emailed the link to all my friends. Please get this out. Just terrifying.


12 posted on 04/16/2014 4:57:16 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: ForYourChildren

CW1 began April 12, 1861. CW2 almost began April 12, 2014.


13 posted on 04/16/2014 4:57:23 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: ForYourChildren

BTTT


14 posted on 04/16/2014 4:57:29 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: ForYourChildren

bfl


15 posted on 04/16/2014 5:00:45 PM PDT by krunkygirl (force multiplier in effect...)
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To: ForYourChildren

I saw him on TV talking about this. He said his wife isn’t talking to him now.


16 posted on 04/16/2014 5:00:47 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: ForYourChildren

BFL


17 posted on 04/16/2014 5:01:02 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Me too.....


18 posted on 04/16/2014 5:02:30 PM PDT by majormaturity
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To: ForYourChildren
and has never seen that type of force at the border where drugs and people are routinely smuggled across

First thing I said

They can use that kind of force on us - by Park Rangers for god's sake - but not on murderous foreign narcotics traffickers?

It's a "government" that is at war with the people it supposedly is employed by

19 posted on 04/16/2014 5:04:01 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: ChildOfThe60s

“The feds are not going to become less tyrannical. Just the opposite. History has shown that when tyrants are challenged by the “serfs” they double down. I have no doubt that our “masters” will follow that same template.”

Maybe. And I pray to God that they DON’T follow that same template.

But hopefully the feds are starting to realize that there are a hell of a lot of Americans who will “go to the mat” to be free.

If the feds ratchet this up, and take it to the next level of force, then all bets are off.

Being an American means something, something very special. It means being free. And freedom is worth our lives, our fortunes, our sacred honor.


20 posted on 04/16/2014 5:05:47 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie; Jim Robinson; onyx; Travis McGee

Just in case you missed this...


21 posted on 04/16/2014 5:06:56 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: ForYourChildren
won't load... anybody have a direct link??? thx
22 posted on 04/16/2014 5:07:05 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: ForYourChildren

Ping for later


23 posted on 04/16/2014 5:07:27 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: ought-six

Amen


24 posted on 04/16/2014 5:07:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: ought-six

PREPARE for Civil War II


25 posted on 04/16/2014 5:08:06 PM PDT by mason-dixon (As Mason said to Dixon, you have to draw the line somewhere.)
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To: ForYourChildren

The Feds aren’t done with Bundy.

People with that kind of government power and that kind of firepower champ at the bit for a chance to use it all.

What the Feds didn’t get done in the light of day while on camera they will get done in less visible ways.


26 posted on 04/16/2014 5:08:14 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The future ain't what it use to be -- Yogi Berra)
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To: ForYourChildren

This is the sort of thing that will make rural America a fertile ground for recruiting by an al-Qaeda type of group.


27 posted on 04/16/2014 5:09:16 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: ForYourChildren
...kept the Bundy protestors from a bloody end

?? Tell me Boris, vat was secret weapon that BLM vas holding back ??

28 posted on 04/16/2014 5:09:57 PM PDT by Gasshog (DemoKKKrats: Leaders of the Free Sh!t World)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
The feds are not going to become less tyrannical. Just the opposite. History has shown that when tyrants are challenged by the “serfs” they double down. Agreed. This battle was won, but not the war. Right now, this is being dissected in such a way as to figure out how to stop people from showing this kind of resistance against the government. I'm sure that all those who participated, not just the Bundy family will be studied for weaknesses. They'll also see to that there will be a total media blackout, or at least favorable media spin next time. The government will be back.
29 posted on 04/16/2014 5:12:11 PM PDT by TheGipperWasRight
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To: ought-six

I certainly wish you were right, “hopefully the feds are starting to realize that there are a hell of a lot of Americans who will “go to the mat” to be free.”

But I don’t think so.

The Feds were using the Bundy’s to double down and ratchet up to the next level of force. FedZilla was trying to use the Bundy’s as THE example. The FedCoats were all over there. FedCoats will be back. Don’t mess with FedZilla, they have the guns, they have authority, they are FedCoats. This is the message that they wanted to send.

Check out this thread.

War on the West: Why More Bundy Standoffs Are Coming
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3145276/posts


30 posted on 04/16/2014 5:12:33 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a classical Christian approach to homeschool])
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To: ForYourChildren
There are reports, unconfirmed at this time, that the BLM PAID CONTRACTORS $996,000.00 (just shy of 1 MILLION bucks) to round up, remove and/or kill the Bundy cattle from the land.

The amount of money that the BLM claims the Bundy’s owe to the US Government are at maximum $ 1 million.

If this is the case, it seriously undermines the BLM position that this is about protecting Tortoises of collecting back fines.

At any rate, the footage shows that the BLM is totally out of control of it's para military trained rangers who were poised to start firing on their fellow Americans for the most flimsy of reasons.

It is also scary when a well connected (to Harry Reid) government official says that law abiding American citizens who have traveled to exercise they First Amendment rights and to petition their Government to address a grievance should be told that they be prepared for their funerals.

This event suggests that the Federal Government and the BLM came to Nevada looking for trouble and were seriously instigating a deadly confrontation with American citizens exercising their First Amendment rights.

While I am sympathetic to fact the BLM Rangers are responsible for investigating illegal pot farms on BLM lands and have to deal with highly armed, violent Drug Cartel members and may have a need for weapons to protect themselves, the footage here shows that these people seriously exceeded their authority and their mandate for land management with this para military operation against honest and innocent Americans.

This event goes way past even legitimate law enforcement procedures and SWAT tactics against hardened criminals The BLM Brown Shirts were outfitted for war against their fellow Americans and were obviously more than willing and at the very edge of opening fire. They had an entire ridgeline of snipers deployed agains non violent protesters for gosh sakes.

Things have deteriorated to the point I no longer recognize this country as the one I grew up in or even lived in a few short years ago.

America has indeed been fundamentally changed and it is change we will come to regret

31 posted on 04/16/2014 5:14:21 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: ForYourChildren

I saw this live last night - thanks for the video! What a story! Cattlegate needs to get investigated at the highest levels.


32 posted on 04/16/2014 5:14:33 PM PDT by impactplayer
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To: ForYourChildren

This Tom Hinchey person seems to think it was going to be the thousands of militia that were going to be massacred. Huh.

Hey Tom, there were dozens of supporters inside the ranch when your big government friends showed up, and cut them off. That’s when they realized they were surrounded by a crapload of hundreds/thousands more supporters, all armed. Who’s blood was spared?


33 posted on 04/16/2014 5:16:04 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: ForYourChildren

save


34 posted on 04/16/2014 5:17:06 PM PDT by gibsosa
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To: ought-six
And I pray to God that they DON’T follow that same template.

Pray for the best but expect the worst. They will do as I predict.

But hopefully the feds are starting to realize that there are a hell of a lot of Americans who will “go to the mat” to be free.

That's just it. Realizing that will not have what you and I consider the logical effect. They will see the answer as more repression, the iron boot.
"Those worthless, ungrateful turds (you and me), we have to put them back in their place or it will just get worse."
That my friend is how they think, and what they will do.

35 posted on 04/16/2014 5:17:18 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: rdcbn
The amount of money that the BLM claims the Bundy’s owe to the US Government are at maximum $ 1 million.

That has changed. BLM now says it's in excess of $500 Million. Fines.

36 posted on 04/16/2014 5:19:02 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Dead Dog; Farmer Dean

.270 130 grain nosler ballistic tip packing 60 grains h4831
haven’t gone over 450 yards with it never had to try to shoot further


37 posted on 04/16/2014 5:19:31 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: ForYourChildren

If more people would stand up against Obamunism like this, maybe things could change.


38 posted on 04/16/2014 5:20:07 PM PDT by kaehurowing (FIGHT BULLYING, UNINSTALL FIREFOX)
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To: Cyber Liberty

The whole Federal government is getting increasingly bad with math, I notice, whether it’s dollars or statistics.


39 posted on 04/16/2014 5:21:12 PM PDT by kaehurowing (FIGHT BULLYING, UNINSTALL FIREFOX)
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To: TheGipperWasRight

... and guess who else is studying the BLM jbt actions, tactics, and equipment...


40 posted on 04/16/2014 5:21:14 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: kaehurowing

It’s just another example of how goalposts get moved with this bunch.


41 posted on 04/16/2014 5:24:50 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: ForYourChildren

It is a indication of tyranny when they want to take guns away from the law abiding American but do nothing about the drug traffic and gun running in the gang ridden inner cities. It is the same corrupt politicians who profit from the illegal drug industry that abuse law abiding Americans with their tyranny.


42 posted on 04/16/2014 5:24:54 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: ForYourChildren

I am very glad they didn’t shoot.

However I am VERY surprised they didn’t start killing. You put that many cops in a situation like this, and they will often start shooting.

I worry that this is only the start.


43 posted on 04/16/2014 5:25:56 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: ForYourChildren

I’d say the BLM and other LEOs on the scene were the ones at risk of being massacred, and they finally figured it out. They were outgunned and out maneuvered.


44 posted on 04/16/2014 5:26:56 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: ForYourChildren

there is no video at link!


45 posted on 04/16/2014 5:30:47 PM PDT by blu
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To: TADSLOS

I’d say the BLM and other LEOs on the scene were the ones at risk of being massacred, and they finally figured it out. They were outgunned and out maneuvered

+++++++++++++++

They weren’t out gunned or out maneuvered. It was just going to be lousy TV. They will be back and it will be quick and lethal.


46 posted on 04/16/2014 5:31:44 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: rdcbn

This event suggests that the Federal Government and the BLM came to Nevada looking for trouble and were seriously instigating a deadly confrontation with American citizens exercising their First Amendment rights.


After spending a lot of time researching and looking at this “Stand off”. I agree 100%.

They came looking for a fight.

They hoped to be shot at first.

They have tried this before.

Wayne Hage, American Rancher, Interview Pt 2

at 13 mins,

http://vimeo.com/9776367

Everybody should watch the entire interview.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3145256/posts

I also believe there is a political motivation behind this.

I believe 0bama would have loved to paint the Ranchers and the Militia as crazy right wing gun nuts that need to be controlled.


47 posted on 04/16/2014 5:32:17 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Chickensoup

And nighttime.


48 posted on 04/16/2014 5:33:09 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Chode

Didn’t load for me either. Maybe later.


49 posted on 04/16/2014 5:34:30 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: redgolum
I worry that this is only the start.

Yes, I can see where you would think that. But look at it from another direction. It had better be the start with more to follow, else we are truly doomed.

The oppression will only get worse without resistance.

50 posted on 04/16/2014 5:35:35 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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