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Could this particle rewrite modern physics? Discovery of 4-quark hadron...
The London Daily Mail ^ | April 16, 2014 | Jonathan O'Callaghan

Posted on 04/16/2014 7:00:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Scientists at CERN have confirmed the existence of a new 'exotic' particle
International team used the Large Hadron Collider beauty (LHCb) detector
The particle was first detected in 2007 but it has only now been confirmed
Dubbed Z(4430), the discovery challenges existing models of physics
It may also indicate that a new type of neutron star, a quark star, exists

In the early 1930s, scientists were fairly confident they understood subatomic physics.

That was until dozens of new elementary particles were discovered in the 1950s, forcing scientists to rewrite their models.

Now a new particle, first detected in 2007 but not confirmed until now, could send them back to the drawing board as they try to figure out what’s going on at a subatomic level.

This particular discovery delves into a particularly complex branch of physics.

It was made by physicists at the Large Hadron Collider beauty (LHCb) Collaboration at Cern in Geneva, Switzerland.

LHCb is a multinational experiment designed to identify new forces and particles in the universe....

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: cern; hadron; physics; science

1 posted on 04/16/2014 7:00:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In the early 1930s, scientists were fairly confident (meaning there was consensus) they understood subatomic physics.

The vague term ‘fairly confident’ needed definition in today’s modern language.


2 posted on 04/16/2014 7:05:21 PM PDT by taterjay
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Considering that both big and small have no finite limits, there is no limit to the discoveries yet to be made.


3 posted on 04/16/2014 7:09:31 PM PDT by soycd
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To: All

If I had the bus fare I’d go down there and explain it to them. It is so simple.


4 posted on 04/16/2014 7:11:30 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: soycd
Planck length may set a limit on the small side. That's what they told us at culinary school, anyway. We didn't spend much time on particle physics. Knife skills... that was forever, though.

/johnny

5 posted on 04/16/2014 7:12:35 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: soycd

Absolutely.


6 posted on 04/16/2014 7:22:10 PM PDT by dkazz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In the early 1930s, scientists were fairly confident they understood subatomic physics.

Read as "it was settled science."

7 posted on 04/16/2014 7:25:29 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

See the old movie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Incredible_Shrinking_Man


8 posted on 04/16/2014 7:28:49 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The science is settled.
Thanks Al.


9 posted on 04/16/2014 7:33:02 PM PDT by ully2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Silly title.

I cannot imagine particles writing anything. Only humans write.


10 posted on 04/16/2014 7:37:34 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Z(4430) causes global warming. >:->


11 posted on 04/16/2014 7:38:57 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: JRandomFreeper

What size Planck were you using as your cutting board?


12 posted on 04/16/2014 7:42:35 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: soycd

That’s what makes it all so much fun. Matter is an emergent property of consciousness and consists of chosen observations in an infinite sea of potential. So the more we ‘know’ the more we ‘see’. But all we’re really doing is playing with the illusion while imagining we’re ‘discovering’ the things we’re making up.


13 posted on 04/16/2014 7:43:35 PM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: Bernard Marx
1.616199(97)×10−35 meters. Plus or minus...

/johnny

14 posted on 04/16/2014 7:44:44 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Plus or minus...

I hate those fudge factors.

15 posted on 04/16/2014 7:48:54 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; SunkenCiv
thanks, for the post.
Science Ping!

16 posted on 04/16/2014 7:49:38 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun. Right..0'Caligula / 0'Reid? ;-)
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17 posted on 04/16/2014 7:49:39 PM PDT by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anti-quarks are just SO annoying.


18 posted on 04/16/2014 7:49:54 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: exDemMom
I cannot imagine particles writing anything. Only humans write.

I suppose humans are made out of particles :-)

19 posted on 04/16/2014 8:21:07 PM PDT by mhx
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sheldon.......... Sheldon Cooper....... is that YOU?


20 posted on 04/16/2014 8:36:17 PM PDT by WaterWeWaitinFor (Would Winston Churchill stand still for all this nonsense? Cruz our new Churchill?)
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To: AustinBill

That is very true but not many people see that.


21 posted on 04/16/2014 8:39:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Bernard Marx

Planck’s Constant times something, IIRC


22 posted on 04/16/2014 8:42:41 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: soycd
Considering that both big and small have no finite limits, there is no limit to the discoveries yet to be made.

This is qualitative, though -- discovery of a new way in which building block particles can be combined. You can't have limitless permutations and combinations of quarks because most would violate quantum chromodynamics and other field theory.

23 posted on 04/16/2014 8:57:24 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: taterjay
In the early 1930s, scientists were fairly confident (meaning there was consensus) they understood subatomic physics.

They had a working understanding of nuclear physics, and this has stood up. The further forays deeper into the subatomic realm, or realms, has been ongoing through the 60's, 70's and later. I remember the excitement over the J/psi particle, back in the day. It too, was a "resonance", i.e. a "bump" in a curve of reaction cross section versus energy.

I note the Upsilon Meson was discovered about the same time. Here's a very quaint figure from the paper announcing it:

Now we have detectors the size of battle ships with INSANE computing power ( based on 1930's concepts of solid state physics, however finally honed, ) and we get tetraquarks.

OK, great.

24 posted on 04/16/2014 9:04:28 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: SolidRedState

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Tetryon

hmmm


25 posted on 04/16/2014 11:42:23 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: mhx
I suppose humans are made out of particles :-)

Oh, fine, then--get all technical about it.

26 posted on 04/17/2014 3:35:19 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: TigersEye

More every day.


27 posted on 04/17/2014 4:31:21 AM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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