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Ron Paul: Rand Will Get Hit with Disadvantages in Presidential Bid for Being My Son
Breitbart News ^ | April 16, 2014 | Breitbart TV

Posted on 04/16/2014 7:43:00 PM PDT by This Just In

Wednesday on Fox News Channel's "Your World" with Neil Cavuto former Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) discussed the IRS targeting his organization when Cavuto asked, "Well, i don't want to be cynical Congressman, do you think any of this might have a thing or two to do with your son possibly running for president? "

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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Frankly, Dr. Paul, it's your sons political views that would put him at a disadvantage for the Conservative voters.
1 posted on 04/16/2014 7:43:00 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

That’s Correct, Mainly for me His undying love for illegal aliens over American Workers.

He’s a Traitor!


2 posted on 04/16/2014 7:46:04 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: This Just In

Bingo!!


3 posted on 04/16/2014 7:49:24 PM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: This Just In

Paul responded “...he may get a couple of benefits by him being my son, but he also has some disadvantages too.

Exactly.


4 posted on 04/16/2014 7:49:36 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: chicagolady

If it was Paul vs Hitlery, what would you do? Just wondering.


5 posted on 04/16/2014 7:51:36 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: laplata; chicagolady
If it was Paul vs Hitlery, what would you do? Just wondering.

Same principle-less GOP-E based nonsense we get every election cycle.

I do know what the founders would have done:

"If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures." - Alexander Hamilton
6 posted on 04/16/2014 7:56:58 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: This Just In

“put him at a disadvantage for the Conservative voters.”

I think you meant to write socialist voters and bushbots.

Every poll shows Rand Paul leading among conservatives.

And he also won this year’s Conservative Political Action Conference’s straw poll.


7 posted on 04/16/2014 8:03:00 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: chicagolady

“undying love for illegal aliens”

Nonsense. Get a grip.


8 posted on 04/16/2014 8:03:31 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

The polls mean nothing. It all depends on who is being polled.


9 posted on 04/16/2014 8:07:41 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

Waaaaaaahhhhhmbulance


10 posted on 04/16/2014 8:09:02 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Ron Paul used to win the CPAC straw poll every year, because he sent in busloads of young college students and marijuana smokers, just to vote in the poll.

I imagine Rand Paul does the same.

Neither one of them is a real conservative.


11 posted on 04/16/2014 8:09:15 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: This Just In

Right. They polled conservatives.

The American Conservative Union gives Rand Paul a 100% rating.

A few people are tied with him in first place but no one is ahead.


12 posted on 04/16/2014 8:11:00 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Cicero
"Neither one of them is a real conservative."

Or friend of Israel.

13 posted on 04/16/2014 8:12:41 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Cicero

“he sent in busloads of young college students “

They are not wealthy and are not paying anyone. People are just choosing to go and vote for them. Just like in real elections.

“Neither one of them is a real conservative.”

See #12. The ACU disagrees. Maybe you are not a real conservative.


14 posted on 04/16/2014 8:15:13 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: This Just In
Ron Paul: Rand Will Get Hit with Disadvantages in Presidential Bid for Being My Son

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That kind of sounds like a washed up basketball player or a prospective 'lower' round football player declaring their 'gayness'.

Gives them the 'sympathy' vote plus keeps their name 'in lights'.

*Sympathy is in the dictionary between shiite and syphilis

15 posted on 04/16/2014 8:18:24 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98 --"I would agree with you BUT that would make both of us wrong".))
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To: This Just In

The nut doesn’t fall far from the tree.

No thanks to the amnesty loving Rand Paul. In spite of his dad being a goober, it’s now about the crazy foreign policy and immigration stances Randie’s taken, of late.


16 posted on 04/16/2014 8:22:47 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

You said:

“Every poll shows Rand Paul leading among conservatives.”

Before you said:

“A few people are tied with him in first place but no one is ahead?”


17 posted on 04/16/2014 8:23:02 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: BarnacleCenturion

“I think you meant to write socialist voters and bushbots.”

Not at all. Rand Paul’s political platform on illegal immigration, for instance, isn’t Conservative at all. As you’ve noticed by some of our Conservative Freepers (myself included), there are a number of us who don’t support Rand Paul, and we’re not Socialists or bushbots.


18 posted on 04/16/2014 8:26:27 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: Jane Long

I agree and his call for compromising on “social issues” too


19 posted on 04/16/2014 8:26:33 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: This Just In

That’s CommieCore reasoning for ya ;)


20 posted on 04/16/2014 8:28:49 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: This Just In

Rand seems to me a political demagogue. I think that he is more libertarian on amnesty, drugs and foreign policy than he lets on - although I think he is much more pragmatic than he is principled.

That is to say - he’ll bend his own principles and opinions to achieve his goals, although he is more libertarian by nature.

I can see myself voting for him against Hillary though. At least he is consistently conservative on some/most issues, and could be ‘persuaded’ to avoid amnesty etc. unlike ideological hardliners like Obama or Hillary.


21 posted on 04/16/2014 8:29:14 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: SoConPubbie

BINGO!!


22 posted on 04/16/2014 8:29:34 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

YOU do not know what you are talking about, I do my homework.

YOU are a LOW INFORMATION VOTER!

Pity!


23 posted on 04/16/2014 8:32:43 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: Corporate Democrat

“At least he is consistently conservative on some/most issues...”

Would you care to list those “most issues...”?


24 posted on 04/16/2014 8:33:56 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: chicagolady

Would you vote for Paul if it was he against Hitlery?


25 posted on 04/16/2014 8:34:21 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: chicagolady

Traitor?

No, just a bit crazy; gets it from daddy.


26 posted on 04/16/2014 8:35:46 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: This Just In

Fiscal
Pro-life
Small government
Pro-Gun
Privacy
Healthcare
Social Security

The fiscal situation is the most important priority for me. It’s not like Rand is Romney, who infamously did a 180 on most of his positions when he decided to run for President.


27 posted on 04/16/2014 8:44:32 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: Corporate Democrat

Fiscal? And I’m sure all the catastrophic government spending on illegal aliens is fiscally responsible, yes?

Small government? And I suppose the cost of illegal immigration is something “small government” has/can manage, yes?

Social Security? How exactly does Mr. Paul plan to protect our Social Security that’s already being spent?

Rand Paul’s platform doesn’t wash with a lot of Conservatives, and you failed to address “most”, as you stated, of the issues.


28 posted on 04/16/2014 8:52:52 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

Well Rand’s platform doesn’t wash with me either, mostly because of amnesty, but I would rather pick the candidate that could be pressured into dropping amnesty, over the one who is hellbent on imposing it.

And he seems conservative enough on some/most issues, like I said. Better than Hillary, who is conservative on no issues.

The only real differences seem to be on amnesty, gay marriage, drugs and isolationism.

That’s a big deal with amnesty, and absolutely he shouldn’t be allowed to set that in motion.

But he has the ‘leave it to the states’ position that most have adopted on gay marriage, which is...tolerable. The War on Drugs when it comes to marijuana is like Prohibition II for me.

And Rand seems to drop isolationism when it comes to Iran, Russia etc, an acceptable position because I do think we’ve overreached in some areas but am against ignoring real threats to our national security at the same time.

There are a lot of proposals to deal with SS, like raising the retirement age, creating options for individuals to privately invest their funds for better RoC, etc.


29 posted on 04/16/2014 9:28:13 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: laplata

Third party.

No other option.


30 posted on 04/16/2014 9:47:47 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: SoConPubbie

A proper reply.


31 posted on 04/16/2014 9:51:27 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Corporate Democrat; This Just In
But he has the ‘leave it to the states’ position that most have adopted on gay marriage, which is...tolerable.

Rand Paul isn't running for state Governor, he is running to head federal government, in other words, gay marriage at the most influential level for public opinion and national acceptance of it.

Paul is OK with gay marriage, that means for millions of Americans in the military, federal employment and in immigration.

Paul didn't just come our in support of gay marriage, he mentioned "social issues". Rand Paul's liberalism on social issues, gay marriage for feds and immigration, and his immigration policy, are all big government positions.

32 posted on 04/16/2014 10:23:43 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: This Just In

I think it means his conservative rating is 100%. Only Cruz and Lee I think would be 100%.

Many of the polls have Paul leading a large field.


33 posted on 04/16/2014 10:30:57 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: Corporate Democrat

If the Neocons are smart they would actually try to keep amnesty off the table until 2021 and try to primary Rand for being weak on law and order.


34 posted on 04/16/2014 10:32:30 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: ansel12

As far as I know, Rand’s position on gay marriage is that he’s against it in principle, but wants to allow the states to decide whether or not to legalize it. So he won’t be in a position to legalize or not legalize on that level.

He is against federal imposition of traditional marriage, aka DOMA. He is evasive about DADT too, so he’s probably more okay with gay marriage than he lets on.

Like I said...it’s tolerable for me as long as he is openly against it, and does not advocate it or allow the gay marriage situation to progress further at any level of government. It’s far from ideal though, like temporarily staunching the wound while trying to save the country from fiscal disaster.


35 posted on 04/16/2014 11:01:24 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: Corporate Democrat

Wow, strange answer.

States don’at make federal law for gay marriage in the military, in federal employment and immigration, so you and Paul are avoiding the subject, Paul came out in support of gay marriage, he came out to end opposition to it.

Gay marriage is acceptable to you, that is why you call DOMA or a Constitutional amendment, “imposing” marriage on states, but gay marriage is not acceptable to conservatives.

Conservatives won’t be looking to support a candidate who is so anti-conservative, especially one that you even think is dishonest about how liberal he really is.

We only just finished a presidential election 5 months ago, it is far too early to be promoting the rino/libertarian.


36 posted on 04/16/2014 11:11:26 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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Paul came out in support of gay marriage, he came out to end opposition to it.

Sigh. I looked this time to see if you kept on lying. You did. You keep on misinterpreting what has been explained to you over and over. Paul did not want to get involved in that issue at this time.

Compare the country's state to that of a homosexual with AIDS. Would the wise doctor first advise him to take scads of antibiotics, or to quit buggering?

Paul is in the "quit buggering" camp.

37 posted on 04/16/2014 11:18:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Corporate Democrat

Dem, consider how the country ever got to a position where it was able to embrace such an arrogance against nature.

I think the economic is much more then economic. It also is fundamentally enabling of arrogance, of living in a fantasy world.

I actually spent several weeks “working” (if it could be called that) in the belly of the beast. Shangri-la, if I didn’t care about producing anything good.


38 posted on 04/16/2014 11:23:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I FIRMLY believe can get our country A MUCH SMALLER government
the social issues will take care of themselves!!! LOBBYISTS ARE THE
DESTRUCTION OF THE REPUBLIC!!!


39 posted on 04/16/2014 11:24:23 PM PDT by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: ansel12

Just to be clear, I would much rather vote for someone who is right on ALL the issues like Senator Cruz, but I was talking about a situation where it came down to Hillary vs Paul.

And yes, if that choice was given to me tomorrow I would probably end up voting for Paul, for the reasons that I’ve stated above.

It doesn’t mean I’m promoting him, I’ve said repeatedly my problems with him, several of whom are serious. (amnesty, shiftiness) Not to mention his lack of charisma compared to Cruz.

And I’m not for gay marriage, but that’s the definition if you do a Constitutional Amendment defining marriage. You’re imposing on liberal states like New York and Massachusetts that would otherwise choose a different definition. It may be the RIGHT thing to do, but it’s still imposition.


40 posted on 04/16/2014 11:25:08 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Who knows what you are trying to say, it sure isn’t Rand Paul’s campaigning on gay marriage.


41 posted on 04/16/2014 11:25:45 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Kit cat

That’s Paul’s general idea.

Call him mad, call him bad, call him sad, but he’s the only one I’ve seen who wants to take the bloat by the horns. Could it be he’s wiser than the rest, although having difficulty explaining how?


42 posted on 04/16/2014 11:26:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ansel12

He says he wants to leave it ALONE. With your two dimensional thinking you contort that into beckoning it on.


43 posted on 04/16/2014 11:27:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Corporate Democrat

Only months after the Romney/Obama election, and you are already using the hail Mary ‘the rino/libertarian is better than the democrat’ argument.

We are years away from that weird form of promoting Paul, making any sense.

There is no reason for any conservative to be doing anything other than dismissing the incoherent Paul at this moment.


44 posted on 04/16/2014 11:31:04 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
He says he wants to leave it ALONE.

He is running for president, now that Obama just created gay marriage at the federal level, Paul "wants to leave it alone", that means that he and you are pro-gay marriage.

Let's oppose gay marriage, not support it.

45 posted on 04/16/2014 11:33:46 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Rand Paul would be fine with me as a matter of fact I WOULD WALK OVER HOT COALS TO VOTE FOR HIM AFTER HAVING SEEN HOW
QUICKLY OUR REPUBLIC HAS FALLEN!!! I for one am NO LONGER
looking for the PERFECT CANDIDATE I just want someone TO SHRINK
THIS DAMNED MONSTROSITY OF A GOVERNMENT!!!!


46 posted on 04/16/2014 11:38:52 PM PDT by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: Kit cat
I FIRMLY believe can get our country A MUCH SMALLER government the social issues will take care of themselves!!!

The problem is one man, one vote, social liberalism creates more big government voters.

Social conservatism breeds more conservative, limited government voters.

47 posted on 04/16/2014 11:48:14 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

Social issues at this time NEED TO BE PUT ON THE BACK BURNER,!!
Government is OUT OF CONTROL!!!! WAY OUT OF CONTROL!!!!
WE should ALL be concerned with shrinking this BEAST above EVERYTHING else!!! Social issues will follow!!!! STATES should be taking
control of SOCIAL issues!!! If you choose to live in a liberal cesspool you
can move to one NO PROBLEM!!!! FEDS should ge out of our lives!!!!


48 posted on 04/17/2014 12:05:41 AM PDT by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: Kit cat

ge=be


49 posted on 04/17/2014 12:06:54 AM PDT by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: Kit cat

Social liberalism is how the government got so big and so much control, the only people voting against liberalism and big government, are the social conservatives.

The more society breaks down, the more people want to vote for more government and more welfare and short term gains.

If you want government control and the feds in your life, then keep fighting against social conservatism, it has worked for the left for 50 years.


50 posted on 04/17/2014 12:11:48 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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