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A New, More Sinister IRS Scandal
PJ Media ^ | April 17, 2013 | J. Christian Adams

Posted on 04/17/2014 9:35:50 AM PDT by jazusamo

Yesterday was a significant day in the IRS abuse scandal. The scandal evolved from being about pesky delays in IRS exemption applications to a government conniving with outside interests to put political opponents in prison.

Emails obtained by Judicial Watch through the Freedom of Information Act reveal Lois Lerner cooking up plans with Justice Department officials to talk about ways to criminally charge conservative groups that are insufficiently quiet.

Larry Noble, a law professor now with the Soros-funded Campaign Legal Center , was cited in the emails as someone agitating to jail conservatives who “falsely” report on IRS forms that they are not engaged in political speech. Lerner talked about setting up meetings with Justice Department election lawyers who wanted to talk about making Noble’s dreams a reality — this after Senator Sheldon Whitehouse raised the idea of criminal charges for conservatives who are not sufficiently quiet, charges that they falsely completed an IRS tax exemption form.

Larry Noble

Larry Noble

Their theory is a favorite among speech regulators in the Soros-funded left and academia. It goes like this: “Too much speech is bad (unless unions do it.) Groups who talk about things leftists find uncomfortable are necessarily political and thus should never have 501(c) tax exempt status. Criminally charge any group that said on their IRS tax exempt form that they were not political if they say things the left finds uncomfortable. Get Eric Holder’s Justice Department on the case.”

The emails obtained by Judicial Watch reveal this is essentially what was going on behind the scenes at the IRS, DOJ, and with outside leftist interests.

The emails, so far, only name a few of the speech regulators involved. But there are many who don’t appear in the latest document dump that give life to the cause of limiting the First Amendment.

Hans von Spakovsky, a former commissioner on the Federal Election Commission, is intimately familiar with the scope and power of the speech regulators. He said: “Ever since I came to Washington, I’ve been shocked at the liberal politicians like Sen. Chuck Schumer and Rep. Chris Van Hollen, advocacy groups like Democracy 21 and Fred Wertheimer, and government bureaucrats at the FEC and the Justice Department who want to use the power of government to censor their opponents. They hate the First Amendment and would fit right into the Soviet Union.”

All roads in the IRS scandal run through Citizens United , the Supreme Court case that sent the speech regulators into a frenzy when it allowed private citizens to spend money to express their views without government regulation. Even President Obama attacked Citizens United in a State of the Union address. Justice Samuel Alito mouthed his opinion about Obama’s truthfulness during the speech.

Citizens United , in timing and substance, was the genesis of the IRS scandal.

So who are the speech regulators seeking to impose government limits on the exercise of the First Amendment?

Like bats in the belfry, they tend to congregate online at University of California at Irvine Law Professor Rick Hasen’s election blog.

Hasen runs an online meeting hall for all the would-be speech totalitarians. They post, bluster, and kibitz about the latest news on their effort to erode the First Amendment and increase federal power. Whenever a free speech advocate seeks to contribute to the conversation at the blog, they are often deliberately given a cold shoulder and ignored, per plan. The ignored don’t understand that leftists aren’t interested in debate. Their pedigree requires the eradication of opposing ideas, not their incubation.

But perhaps the ignored should be thankful. Being ignored is better than what the speech regulators have done in other places throughout history. Jail and truncheons are the usual tools of those who want to stamp out free speech. In America, the speech regulators have just begun to warm up to jail as a tool.

That Hasen’s online hangout is hosted on government servers provides an interesting twist.

Judicial Watch sent the University of California at Irvine a freedom of information request demanding Hasen’s emails to the White House and other government officials including any on the topic of speech regulations. The University told Judicial Watch to pound sand, and still hasn’t provided anything.

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Yesterday’s IRS email revelation makes you wonder what Cal-Irvine is hiding.

So who are some of the other speech regulators who haven’t shown up on IRS scandal documents yet?

One of the top speech regulators is former White House counsel and Obama campaign lawyer Bob Bauer. As I noted at PJ Media:

Robert Bauer had the motive to direct IRS policy against Tea Party groups. He is a longtime opponent of First Amendment freedoms and an advocate of government-speech regulation. He also can’t stand the work the Tea Party is conducting to monitor and eradicate voter fraud, work the Republican Party and national campaigns have utterly failed to perform.

During the 2008 election, while representing the Obama campaign, Bauer sent a threatening letter to the Justice Department demanding criminal investigations of people who had the audacity to speak about voter fraud. Bauer even singled out Sarah Palin in the letter. Anyone who “developed or disseminated” information about voter fraud, to Bauer, deserved the heavy boot of a criminal investigation. Read the letter; it reveals a nasty, thuggish, and lawless attitude toward political opposition.

There’s that jail thing again. They just can’t resist that totalitarian impulse against political opponents.

Other campaigns have had speech regulator attorneys — even Republicans. Trevor Potter was John McCain’s head lawyer in 2008, and he founded the now Soros-funded Campaign Legal Center. He helped cook up the McCain-Feingold speech regulations.

Scads of well-funded groups also exist to stamp down free speech, groups like Common Cause and Demos.

The new, more sinister IRS scandal is deadly dangerous to Democrats. It isn’t dangerous because bureaucrats took too long to approve tax exemption applications. It’s dangerous because it reveals the authoritarian impulses of powerful Democrats. First they tried to shut up political opposition through threats and bureaucracy. Then we learn yesterday that Democrats and leftists at the Justice Department, the United States Senate, and the Internal Revenue Service were discussing jailing political opponents.

Just wait until the American people learn more about the modern American version of history’s speech regulators.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; cultureofcorruption; democrats; democratscandals; dissentispatriotic; doj; firstamendment; georgesoros; gulags; holder; howtostealanelection; irs; larrynoble; lerner; loislerner; obama; obamunism; politicalpurge; robertbauer; smidgen

1 posted on 04/17/2014 9:35:50 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

I’m certain that what’s come out so far is just the tiniest tip of the iceberg.

The Obama Democrats would round up conservatives and put us all in internment camps - or worse - if they thought they could.

The only thing that stops them is the Second Amendment.


2 posted on 04/17/2014 9:39:15 AM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: jazusamo

Bump


3 posted on 04/17/2014 9:40:27 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: jazusamo

“cited in the emails as someone agitating to jail conservatives who “falsely” report on IRS forms that...”

Yeah, in California they’re releasing violent criminals and criminal illegal aliens onto the streets due to overcrowding...but they’ll find room in the jails and prisons for Conservatives who haven’t murdered, assaulted, attacked, knocked-out, driven drunk or harmed anyone.


4 posted on 04/17/2014 9:42:19 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (The dogs bark; the caravan moves on!)
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To: jazusamo

A new axiom needs to be crafted. The old phrase, tip of the iceberg, applies here, but it must be said in a new way.

If you see one roach, there are surely 1000 of his brothers you don’t see.


5 posted on 04/17/2014 9:43:47 AM PDT by lurk
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To: lurk
A new axiom needs to be crafted. The old phrase, tip of the iceberg, applies here, but it must be said in a new way.

If you see one roach, there are surely 1000 of his brothers you don’t see.

"Tip of the iceberg" is not an axiom, it's a metaphor.

When applied to the IRS scandal, it's a metaphor that's axiomatic, I'll grant you.

But you're right, I agree with you. An iceberg is a clean, proud thing, a beautiful manifestation of nature's majesty.

The cockroach metaphor is much better.

6 posted on 04/17/2014 9:48:01 AM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: Steely Tom
I’m certain that what’s come out so far is just the tiniest tip of the iceberg.

I've no doubt at all you're correct. If at least the right of center Republicans would get serious about this along with what little conservative media there is, this would be the final nail in the coffin for the Rats in the upcoming election, I'm probably guilty of wishful thinking though.

7 posted on 04/17/2014 9:53:52 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: Steely Tom

Thank mcCain and Bush for the Campaign Finance Reform which then gave birth to what it was designed for: Soros only privileged 501c. 501c was specifically designed to benefit Move On org only.


8 posted on 04/17/2014 9:53:58 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: jazusamo

Bookmark.


9 posted on 04/17/2014 9:55:01 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: jazusamo

Bookmark.


10 posted on 04/17/2014 9:55:11 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: lurk; Steely Tom

Bump.


11 posted on 04/17/2014 9:55:41 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: Steely Tom
The Obama Democrats would round up conservatives and put us all in internment camps - or worse - if they thought they could.

His mentor, Bill Ayers, is on record as having openly discussed that back during his Weathermen days.


12 posted on 04/17/2014 9:56:46 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Steely Tom; lurk

That’s all well and good, but why insult cockroaches?


13 posted on 04/17/2014 9:57:10 AM PDT by WayneS (Help Control Politician Overpopulation - Spay or Neuter Your Senator or Congressman Today!)
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Please bump the Freepathon or click above and donate or become a monthly donor!

14 posted on 04/17/2014 9:59:08 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

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15 posted on 04/17/2014 10:00:12 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun. Cattlegate..0'Caligula / 0'Reid? ;-)
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To: jazusamo
This guy lost me in the first paragraph.

Is he not aware the IRS has also been auditing political opponents, that the alphabet agencies have been harassing them?

The cause for outrage didn't start yesterday.

16 posted on 04/17/2014 10:04:03 AM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the Republican Party does not want you.)
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To: Steely Tom

The Conservatives have become the “new Jews” for this reincarnation of Nationalist Socialism in the territory of the nation once known as “the United States of America”.

Because of their foolish insistence of holding to the words of those forgotten documents, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States of America, these Conservatives have earned the undying enmity of the Current Regime now squatting in the White Hut, and as quickly as they can organize the internment camps, while not exciting any of the more alert, they will start filling them up.

They made an unsuccessful foray into just such a round-up in Nevada last week. They made a tactical mistake - they overplayed their hand after they had inadvertently tipped it. Forewarned, the more alert appeared at the underpass on I-15, and in a show of determination, the standoff ended in a retreat by the jack-booted thugs pretending to be “BLM agents”.


17 posted on 04/17/2014 10:10:48 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: gogeo

Chris Adams is fully aware of what has been taking place, he’s a former DOJ lawyer and has been speaking out since the Holder’s lawless action in the New Black Panther debacle.


18 posted on 04/17/2014 10:15:48 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

We can all tell UC Irvine what we think here ...

https://twitter.com/ucirvine

They have more important things to discuss at UC Irvine, the real important stuff...

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19 posted on 04/17/2014 10:17:20 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Amen...UC Irvine is Berkeley South.


20 posted on 04/17/2014 10:20:36 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo
The new, more sinister IRS scandal is deadly dangerous to Democrats. It isn’t dangerous because bureaucrats took too long to approve tax exemption applications. It’s dangerous because it reveals the authoritarian impulses of powerful Democrats. First they tried to shut up political opposition through threats and bureaucracy. Then we learn yesterday that Democrats and leftists at the Justice Department, the United States Senate, and the Internal Revenue Service were discussing jailing political opponents.

The inmates are truly running the asylum.

CGato

21 posted on 04/17/2014 10:36:07 AM PDT by Conservative Gato
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To: Buckeye McFrog
His mentor, Bill Ayers, is on record as having openly discussed that back during his Weathermen days.

I'm well aware of Mr. Ayers's SDS/WUO and their plans to scale up the Holocaust to a scale befitting the United States and its die-hard "non-reeducatables."

Such a pity that so much of his brain-trust erased itself whilst assembling nail bombs in Greenwich Village back in 1970.

22 posted on 04/17/2014 10:42:29 AM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: jazusamo

Not to worry. The crack team of Woodward and Bernstein will get on this like white on rice. This is the kind of stuff that makes them salivate! /s


23 posted on 04/17/2014 10:43:26 AM PDT by Seabeejas (h)
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To: Seabeejas

Love the sarcasm but seriously, the Sheryl Atkinson types are told by their bosses to back off the democrat corruptions. Their corruption and abuse of power is far beyond anything Nixon did.

If any of them don’t report this stuff because their licenses are threatened by the gov’t, then they are nothing but cowards, because the Constitution that most progressives like to ignore, is the same Constitution that would protect them from an abusive government.

CGato


24 posted on 04/17/2014 11:03:58 AM PDT by Conservative Gato
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To: jazusamo
SMIDGEN
25 posted on 04/17/2014 11:10:37 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: jazusamo

J. Christian Adams is exposing the leftist academia element of what is shaping up to be a multi-layered conspiracy to suppress speech.

Adams has become one of my heros since the Black Panthers case.

Here’s a thread I posted earlier today...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3145511/posts

Adams article that you’ve posted really helps me to understand the organization and structure behind Lerner and her activity.


26 posted on 04/17/2014 11:51:06 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Steely Tom

In 2010, just a few months after the IRS began targeting the TEA Party specifically by name, there was the attempted car bombing in NYC.

The dems tried to blame the attempted bombing on the TEA Party because the bomb was a fertilizer bomb, which just by coincidence I’m sure, matched the dems talking points before the attempted bombing comparing the TEA Party to Tim McVeigh wannabes.

Had the dems been successful in pinning that attempted bombing on the TEA Party, everyone associated with the TEA Party would have been declared a terrorist and I have no doubts they would have been rounded up.


27 posted on 04/17/2014 12:14:12 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350
In 2010, just a few months after the IRS began targeting the TEA Party specifically by name, there was the attempted car bombing in NYC.

The dems tried to blame the attempted bombing on the TEA Party because the bomb was a fertilizer bomb, which just by coincidence I’m sure, matched the dems talking points before the attempted bombing comparing the TEA Party to Tim McVeigh wannabes.

Yes, I remember that.

They tried to do it after the Gabby Giffords shooting, and after the James Holmes shooting in Aurora, Colorado as well.

I believe there have been other attempts in addition to those.

In the case of the Giffords shooting, they tried to pin the blame directly on Sarah Palin. To do so, they ignored the fact that one of the fatalities was a Republican-appointed federal judge named John Roll.

28 posted on 04/17/2014 12:22:55 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: smoothsailing
J. Christian Adams is exposing the leftist academia element of what is shaping up to be a multi-layered conspiracy to suppress speech.

Yes, it sure looks that way and leftist academia can't be happy about it.

Adams has been like a pit bull since the Black Panther fiasco. Holder made a life long enemy of Adams when he blew off the BP case that Adams was one of the DOJ prosecutors responsible for bringing against the turkeys.

I don't know if it'll happen but this whole mess desperately needs to go to a special prosecutor, Lerner and many other are really dirty.

Thanks for that link to your thread.

29 posted on 04/17/2014 12:54:13 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


30 posted on 04/17/2014 1:31:59 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: jazusamo

IRS corruption bump for later.........


31 posted on 04/17/2014 1:36:05 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: jazusamo
Newsbusters.org:

Networks Ignore IRS Seeking Criminal Investigation of Tax-Exempt Groups; CNN Reports

32 posted on 04/17/2014 1:45:46 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Steely Tom

The big difference with the attempted bombing in NYC and the shootings they tried to blame on the TEA Party, there was no orchestrated talking points campaign from the dems before the shootings only after.

With the attempted bombing in NYC there was an orchestrated talking points campaign before the attempted bombing and after the attempted bombing.

Are we supposed to assume the terrorist are so in tune with the news the terrorist simply picked up on the dems talking points campaign comparing the TEA Party to a bunch of Tim McVeigh wannabes and then the terrorist just “spontaneously” planned a fertilizer car bomb to match the dems talking points?

If that’s the case then I guess we need to look at ALL the terrorist attacks, attempted attacks, and planned attacks for the last 13 years and see just how many match the dems orchestrated news stories before the attacks and their talking points campaign after the attack.

I even bet the terrorist were so in tune with the news they picked up on the dems praising Peanuts Carter at their convention then the terrorist just “spontaneously” planned to attack Benghazi.


33 posted on 04/17/2014 3:08:20 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: jazusamo

Jennifer Joyce, prosecutor for St. Louis City, and her counterpart in St. Louis County did exactly the same thing during the 2008 election cycle in an effort to silence critics of Obama, Pelosi, and others. She insisted that she was only interested in making sure statements were true, but she only investigated and threatened those who spoke out against Obama and democrats, never an Obama supporter or democrat. She had no interest whatsoever in a fair debate, only in making sure that her candidate won.


34 posted on 04/17/2014 3:09:03 PM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of liberty only to see marxism elected at home.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
"His mentor, Bill Ayers, is on record as having openly discussed that back during his Weathermen days."

They were OK with the idea that they'd have to slaughter 25,000,000 of us who would not be amenable to reeducation. Roll that number around in your head for a bit: twenty-five millions. That was one-quarter of the population of the USA at the time. This is your president's mentor, the man who began obama's career in politics, who continues to shape young minds at a major US university.

35 posted on 04/17/2014 3:17:02 PM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of liberty only to see marxism elected at home.)
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To: jazusamo
Emails obtained by Judicial Watch through the Freedom of Information Act reveal Lois Lerner cooking up plans with Justice Department officials to talk about ways to criminally charge conservative groups ...

Nixon was charged with WANTING to use the IRS against his political enemies... he didn't DO that but it was in the letters of impeachment.

Looks like Obama's people used the force of government and the IRS to intimidate people because they were on some 'enemies list' that democrats created.

I wonder if NBC knows it's criminal? Or if like the other goons and bullies who are democrats they don't care if it's only Republicans being damaged.

36 posted on 04/17/2014 3:21:28 PM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC reporters couldn't spot a criminal if he was at the company Christmas party.)
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To: lurk

Traitors. ALL.

Hang them. ALL.

No mercy.


37 posted on 04/17/2014 6:43:59 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: jazusamo
Just wait until the American people learn more about the modern American version of history’s speech regulators.

I've waited for too long to believe Americans will act against this tyrant President and his evil minions.

I have lost faith in my fellow Americans.

38 posted on 04/17/2014 8:04:41 PM PDT by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: Nachum; Jet Jaguar; Lady Jag; Slings and Arrows; null and void; maggief; Dog; BP2; Candor7; ...

mad as hell ping


39 posted on 04/17/2014 8:11:43 PM PDT by bitt (If Obama is really worried about “the children”, he should be bombing planned parenthood.)
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To: bitt

BTTT


40 posted on 04/17/2014 8:12:46 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: jazusamo

The Tea Party is truly a grassroots movement. It is an immediate existential threat to the ruling oligarchy of both parties, which is why both the Reps and the Dems want to destroy it.


41 posted on 04/17/2014 8:17:13 PM PDT by kabar
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To: bitt

Jeepers ... thanks for the ping!


42 posted on 04/17/2014 8:28:41 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: a fool in paradise
SMIDGEN PALINDROME = NEGDIMS
43 posted on 04/17/2014 9:22:53 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: txhurl

Well, not a palindrome, I mean Smidgen spelled Backwards.


44 posted on 04/17/2014 9:24:37 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: smoothsailing

Placemark


45 posted on 04/17/2014 10:06:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: bitt
RE: "mad as hell ping."

Is to put it rather mildly bitt. Our University for one have been so
infiltrated over the past sixty or so years with communist such as this Larry Noble,
along with so many long recognized foundations,working their tails off,
in order to ruin the America so many of us so long have held to
be the bastion of freedom. It is dis-heartening to say the least.
Where it all will end up is yet for one to see.
46 posted on 04/18/2014 12:23:36 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: Conservative Gato

Agree.


47 posted on 04/18/2014 10:41:24 AM PDT by Seabeejas (h)
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