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Zero Covered Dentists Within 100 Miles for Mandatory Dental Plan Under Obamacare
breitbart.com ^ | March 27, 2014 | Scot Vorse

Posted on 04/17/2014 9:40:37 AM PDT by grundle

For years we have known that the claim under Obamacare, “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan,” was false.

We have also known that the claim under Obamacare, “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor,” was false.

But what we didn’t know was that under Obamacare, “If you need a doctor, you may have to drive more than 100 miles to find a doctor.”

I noticed in my new Anthem monthly premium under Obamacare that I was required to pay a separate monthly charge for dental insurance for my two teenage children (I also have to pay the monthly charge even though I don’t receive the benefits, but that is a different issue). This dental plan was assigned to me and not my particular choice.

Today, it is time to take my kids in for their six-month cleaning, so I checked to see if their dentist is covered under my plan. They are not. OK – there are other dentists. Let’s see about within five miles of my house. Nope – not a single one. Within ten? Nope. Within 20? Nope. Within 50? Nope. Finally, what about within 100 miles? Nope. What is even worse is that the Anthem search feature doesn’t expand past 100 miles. I don’t know if there is any dentist in California that accepts my plan.

Perhaps if I fly to Sacramento or Modesto I can find a dentist that accepts my mandatory-policy kids. I wonder if, after the cost of airfare, a teeth cleaning will still be "affordable."

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1 posted on 04/17/2014 9:40:37 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

This is like the “free” outbuilding coverage on our homeowner’s policy that we all pay for even though we don’t have an outbuilding.


2 posted on 04/17/2014 9:45:39 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (Repeal it.)
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To: grundle

ask Nancy Pelosi’s office to find your kids a dentist under the affordable affordable AFFORDABLE healthcare act

(at least you have kids)


3 posted on 04/17/2014 9:45:53 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: grundle

I don’t understand why California is so different on this from my state, WA. Here we are full of pediatric dental clinics and they all accept Medicaid. A great majority of their patients are Medicaid. One even has a full dental surgery practice. Alternatively you can always just take the Medicaid kids to a non-covered dentist, which you can’t do in the medical realm.


4 posted on 04/17/2014 9:49:41 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: steve86

Part of that is because the legacy SCHIP program covered kids at relatively high income levels. I do have friends with kids on Medicaid in the north part of the state and they have to travel down to Everett to take one kid to the orthodontist.


5 posted on 04/17/2014 9:55:40 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: grundle
A few years ago the Daily Telegraph,one of Britain's most respected newspapers,ran a story about Britain's dental services which,like their medical services,are run by the government.The piece said that many Brits were reduced to pulling their own teeth because they couldn't get an appointment with a government dentist.

With God as my Judge this is true!

6 posted on 04/17/2014 9:56:36 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: steve86

My insurance - that my agent got for me, not through the frickin gvt website, is in Washington. It’s about $70 less/month for some reason. I had to go to the dermatologist so far and I didn’t even have a co-pay. Can’t figure that one out.

Not sure how I ended up being better off ....knock on wood...


7 posted on 04/17/2014 9:56:43 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: USNBandit

I know that the Apple Health kids here sometimes get orthodontic treatment but I don’t know where.


8 posted on 04/17/2014 9:57:19 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: steve86

Maybe it is because the medical providers with any sense are deserting California first. I’m sure ObaMao will solve the problem by allowing the importation of third world health care providers. < / sarcasm >


9 posted on 04/17/2014 9:57:25 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: USNBandit

There is Medicaid insurance for orthodontists? Last I knew this was a non-insurance item, like plastic surgery.


10 posted on 04/17/2014 9:59:22 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: grundle

Sip your gruel. You don’t need teeth in Obamaville.


11 posted on 04/17/2014 10:02:22 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: grundle

If you like your cavity, you can keep it.


12 posted on 04/17/2014 10:04:42 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: grundle

This what USSR was like under their infamous five year plans....Not as bad I will admit but in the same vein. Think affirmative action cluster-F running this 0Kare operation.


13 posted on 04/17/2014 10:10:37 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: grundle

Wow! If we had an honest media, the American people would have every Rat strung up by now.


14 posted on 04/17/2014 10:10:54 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Aria

In WA state there is. Don’t know how long that will last, with 70,000 new enrollees eligible under old Medicaid criteria which the state is liable for.


15 posted on 04/17/2014 10:11:49 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Vigilanteman
I’m sure ObaMao will solve the problem by allowing the importation of third world health care providers.

I'm guessing that he will force doctors or dentists to take those patients. As in if they except any insurance, they must accept all insurance.

And Congress won't even be asked to vote on it. It'll be just another regulation tweak. The end result will be the opposite of what's intended (as with most lib ideas). More doctors and dentists will stop taking insurance.

16 posted on 04/17/2014 10:19:33 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: steve86

Can someone facing this problem - no local dentists on assigned plan - pay out of pocket for care to a dentist nearby?


17 posted on 04/17/2014 10:20:48 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: grundle; MeshugeMikey
Today, it is time to take my kids in for their six-month cleaning, so I checked to see if their dentist is covered under my plan. They are not. OK – there are other dentists. Let’s see about within five miles of my house. Nope – not a single one. Within ten? Nope. Within 20? Nope. Within 50? Nope. Finally, what about within 100 miles? Nope. What is even worse is that the Anthem search feature doesn’t expand past 100 miles. I don’t know if there is any dentist in California that accepts my plan.

I think part of the sick thrill of Obamacare for Pelosi and gang is watching the American People act like trained circus animals. Or she fancies herself as Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown.

How much is their regular dentist's cash price? Yeah, the cleanings are supposed to be covered, but that's not reality. Besides, like the coverage itself, would an actual Obamacare dentist or hygenist do what *you think* he's supposed to do? None in your area but maybe coming soon, from Pakistan.

Besides, he could just do what was the norm for years, just go once a year unless there is some problem.

18 posted on 04/17/2014 10:24:13 AM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: grundle

I heard on the news about an Owebamacare network in Florida that added over 20,000 new Medicaid patients for each Doctor in that network!

I’m guessing that more Doctors will be refusing to participate in this fuster cluck in the near future.


19 posted on 04/17/2014 10:34:53 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: grundle

Where is that zip code, the middle of nowhere?

Just wondering


20 posted on 04/17/2014 10:36:23 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: grundle

Middle of nowhere alright

Los Angeles


21 posted on 04/17/2014 10:37:14 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: grundle

Obamacare: “If you like your dentist, you can keep your dentist.”


22 posted on 04/17/2014 10:39:49 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: tbw2

The guy is paying for this and will end up paying out of pocket, until it is deemed illegal to pay out of pocket


23 posted on 04/17/2014 10:39:57 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: goldstategop

... If you marry your dentist...


24 posted on 04/17/2014 10:41:21 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Aria

Texas has made a whole bunch of dentists very wealthy by paying for dental work through Medicaid. Children who have parents who are employed and, therefore, not eligible have dental work on “as the budget allows” basis.


25 posted on 04/17/2014 11:01:23 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: tbw2

Wasn’t there something in the Obamacare bill that would fine doctors who took patients directly & got paid directly?


26 posted on 04/17/2014 11:09:58 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: tbw2; ridesthemiles

As far as I know (and I discussed this with a dentist-friend a couple of months ago) it is not illegal for a Medicaid recipient to pay cash for dental service, as it is illegal for both parties to tender medical service that way.


27 posted on 04/17/2014 6:05:05 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: Grams A
Texas has made a whole bunch of dentists very wealthy by paying for dental work through Medicaid.

This is very similar to my earlier comments on Washington State.

For a while Medicaid was paying (at least in WA) for every pediatric dental procedure to be done in-hospital, under anesthesia, but I guess that is no longer the case.

28 posted on 04/17/2014 6:08:07 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: steve86

I didn’t realize how bad it was until last fall when we had a campaign headquarters right next door to a dentist’s office. My grandson is going to need braces so I went over and asked how much they would cost. One of the clerks - they had two other clerks and two hygenists - asked if he would be using some kind of Texas Medicaid insurance. When I responded no, she said they only accept Medicaid.

We counted the number of kids going in there in just one day’s time and there were 44 of them. Just blew me away.


29 posted on 04/17/2014 6:31:24 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: steve86

I don’t understand.
Is it illegal for a dentist who accepts Medicaid to also accept money for services?
If someone is on Medicaid and can’t find a nearby dentist, can they pay cash to someone else for care?


30 posted on 04/17/2014 7:17:15 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: tbw2

Possibly might be a restriction. A friend’s daughter was on Medicaid, and her doctor had ordered an epidural block. The hospital said no, because it was not covered by medicaid.

The relatives were all prepared to chip in and pay cash up front.

The hospital still said no. It was forbidden by Medicaid. So you’d have to go to someone and not tell them that you had Medicaid, and no telling what sort of penalty if they catch you.

But that’s just a guess. I don’t know for sure.


31 posted on 04/17/2014 7:28:15 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes; tbw2
The medical provider gets a HUGE penalty if they accept fees from a Medicaid patient, with the punitive measures lasting years.

Not so for dental, as far as I know.

32 posted on 04/17/2014 9:09:02 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: greeneyes
The hospital still said no. It was forbidden by Medicaid. So you’d have to go to someone and not tell them that you had Medicaid

That's getting increasingly difficult to do unless you use a false identity. Basically have to go out of the country now, and Medicaid clients can have trouble getting visas.

33 posted on 04/17/2014 9:12:20 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: steve86

I’m sure there’s all sorts of laws that you would violate. In fact I am sure that every American violates all kinds of laws on a daily basis without even knowing it.

Just think of all the pages of the US Code, and regulations, and state laws and regulations etc, and the volume that’s being added every day. No citizen could possibly keep up with them all.


34 posted on 04/17/2014 9:25:05 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: steve86

Many places medicaid doesn’t cover dental except for children.


35 posted on 04/17/2014 9:36:33 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

They do usually cover adult dental emergencies in the ER.

Washington State just added back routine adult dental coverage in January, after being absent for several years.


36 posted on 04/17/2014 9:40:10 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: steve86

Our ER basically gives them pain meds, and tells them to get to a dentist. Sometimes they give them antibiotics if they have an abcess, but they don’t do any actual dental work.


37 posted on 04/17/2014 9:51:00 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Yeah thats because we’re doctors in the ER not dentists. And lots of our “ toothache” patients are notorious drug seekers.

I hate seeing dental patients in the ER. It’s a waste of the patients time and mine. And I always love the “ I don’t have dental insurance” explanation for why they are in the ER. Usually they have money for their cell phone, smokes, drugs and tattoos , but not for the dentist.


38 posted on 04/17/2014 10:11:08 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: Kozak; greeneyes

I know that oral surgeons sometimes get called in at our ER for reconstruction after accidents. Not sure about routine dental care; I’ll ask. But I know they had a dental “OR” for a while for kids’ Medicaid work.


39 posted on 04/17/2014 10:21:15 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: Kozak

I understand where you are coming from. Agree totally. In general the ER here is continually filled with such. People used to avoid the ER if they could, and just wait till their docs could get them in, unless it was a true emergency.

Sometimes the ER now is so full of non - emergencies, that it is hard to get to the ones who truly need to be there.


40 posted on 04/17/2014 10:41:53 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: steve86
Well, our ER is actually a part of what they call a critical care access point hospital. The hospital only has 25 beds.

For true emergencies, they stabilize and then transport to a larger hospital in St. Louis. All surgery etc is done elsewhere.

Our local FQHC Dental facility has some oral surgery days primarily for children. Any reconstructive work would again be referred out. Our state legislature is in the process of deciding what Medicaid will cover going forward, there may or may not be dental coverage going forward.

41 posted on 04/17/2014 10:48:17 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: grundle

My wife paid our first co-pay at the dentist Tuesday. Check-up and cleaning $35. She carried her plan over when she retired from state of Cal. Don’t know any other details at this point.


42 posted on 04/17/2014 10:51:20 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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