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Deal Reached On Calming Ukraine Tensions
AP/Time ^ | 4/17/14 | John Heilprin and Lara Jakes

Posted on 04/17/2014 10:58:59 AM PDT by jimbo123

(GENEVA) — Top diplomats from the United States, European Union, Russia and Ukraine reached agreement Thursday on immediate steps to ease the crisis in Ukraine.

The agreement, reached after seven hours of negotiation in Geneva, requires all sides to refrain from violence, intimidation or provocative actions. It calls for the disarming of all illegally armed groups and for control of buildings seized by pro-Russian separatists during the protests to be turned back over to authorities.

It also gives amnesty to protesters who comply with the demands, except those found guilty of committing capital crimes.

Monitors with the Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe will be tasked with helping Ukraine authorities and local communities comply with the requirements outlined in the agreement. And Kiev’s plans to reform its constitution and transfer more power from the central government to regional authorities must be inclusive, transparent and accountable — including through the creation of a broad national dialogue.

The tentative agreement could put on hold — for now at least — economic sanctions the West had prepared to impose on Russia if the talks were fruitless. And that would ease international pressure both on Moscow and nervous European Union nations that depend on Russia for their energy.

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: associatedpress; eu; europeanunion; geneva; johnheilprin; kerry; larajakes; newrussia; novorossiya; putin; putinsbuttboys; russia; timemagazine; ukraine

1 posted on 04/17/2014 10:58:59 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

LOL: deal = obama shuts his mouth and Putin does whatever he wants....


2 posted on 04/17/2014 11:01:58 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: jimbo123

Classic negotiating strategy. Russia put pressure on the eastern provinces, then magnanimously hands them back. Meanwhile he has pocket Crimea.


3 posted on 04/17/2014 11:02:01 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: God luvs America

Infiltration approved—no back down, no retreat.


4 posted on 04/17/2014 11:02:43 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: SeeSharp

“Meanwhile, Russia was honing a strategy of its own: Push the West as far as possible without provoking crippling sanctions against its own financial and energy sectors or a military confrontation with NATO.”

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/ukraine-us-alternately-cajole-threaten-russia-23356437?singlePage=true


5 posted on 04/17/2014 11:04:19 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: jimbo123

NOT OVER....

Lavrov spoke in his speech afterward about the “Illegal armed groups” in Kiev that illegally took over government buildings. They still won’t recognize the coup government.

And Kiev has decided to IGNORE the Geneva Agreement.

“Soon after the Geneva document, adopted at a four-side meeting between Ukraine, the US, the EU and Russia, was published, Ukraine’s acting Foreign Minister Andrey Deshchytsa said Kiev is not bound by its recommendations.”http://rt.com/news/kiev-troops-southeast-ukraine-244/


6 posted on 04/17/2014 11:06:30 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Rusty0604

Well, anyway, at least the madness stops for a while. The people of Ukraine were about to get slaughtered.


7 posted on 04/17/2014 11:08:30 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: jimbo123

The deal is, Putin wins.


8 posted on 04/17/2014 11:08:52 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: tcrlaf

Funny thing is that the Western Ukrainian Banderist clowns in Kiev will be forced by Kerry (their only ally) to abide by the deal or the U.S./IMF won’t pay off the $1.9 billion in gas arrears to Putin.


9 posted on 04/17/2014 11:10:53 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

So, the “Geneva Agreement” is just another circle jerk, so that Kerry can go in front of the cameras, preen, and say “I DID SOMETHING!”.


10 posted on 04/17/2014 11:12:41 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: SoFloFreeper

For Putin, it’s all about the navy base in Crimea and the gas prices for Gazprom. And he wants the Western Ukrainian Banderist clowns in Kiev to have as little power as possible over Eastern and Southern Ukraine.


11 posted on 04/17/2014 11:12:43 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

No matter how their speaking to it sounds to us, Kerry and Obama are in way over their heads on this matter


12 posted on 04/17/2014 11:16:29 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: jimbo123

Russia LIES as much as the muzzies and obama. They figured out everybody else gets away with it, so why shouldn’tputin?


13 posted on 04/17/2014 11:17:54 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: equaviator

“Peace in our time!!!!”


14 posted on 04/17/2014 11:18:34 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (No Mo (zilla). I'm going to the Opera instead.)
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To: equaviator
"No matter how their speaking to it sounds to us, Kerry and Obama are in way over their heads on this matter."


15 posted on 04/17/2014 11:24:58 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obama cannot divert resources from his war on Americans!)
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To: jimbo123

Peace and Safety...


16 posted on 04/17/2014 11:27:55 AM PDT by null and void (...if you are too sure of your place in heaven you might be too arrogant to actually get there.)
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To: jimbo123

The rub is that the agreement relies on general terms about “illegalities,” but there is no consensus about what these are. Russia considers the Kiev regime illegal, just as Kiev considers recent actions by Russia and its surrogates illegal. This agreement is an illusion.


17 posted on 04/17/2014 11:29:58 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: jimbo123

“requires all sides to refrain from violence, intimidation or provocative actions”

Unless they are performing `special operations’, so it’s like the Tet ceasefire circa `68?

This is what happens when Joe Biden and John Kerry get together, they search for a 3rd stooge.
Hey, what about Hank Kissinger? Is he still alive? He could be Moe.


18 posted on 04/17/2014 11:30:52 AM PDT by tumblindice (Are all Democrats inveterate, habitual liars?)
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To: jimbo123

Does this deal involve having Jews register as such? Is that what “calmed the tensions”?


19 posted on 04/17/2014 11:37:30 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /S tag but is it really necessary?)
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YEEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAA!!! PEACE IS IN THE HOUSE!

-B O'Bama Chamberlin
20 posted on 04/17/2014 11:42:20 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: jimbo123

When I see “Banderist” in someone’s post, I know what I’m going to get.


21 posted on 04/17/2014 11:42:26 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mohammed was a Child Rapist and Islam is a Totalitarian Death Cult.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
When I see “Banderist” in someone’s post, I know what I’m going to get.

Soviet irredentists and revanchists appear to be welcome, as long as they claim to hate gays or George Soros.

22 posted on 04/17/2014 11:49:13 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Personal Responsibility
The Western Ukrainian nationalists were big fans of registering Jews in WWII. Lvov flashback:


23 posted on 04/17/2014 11:51:45 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
Over 70 years ago:

Chamberlain landed at Heston Aerodrome on 30 September 1938, and spoke to the crowds there:

The settlement of the Czechoslovakian problem, which has now been achieved is, in my view, only the prelude to a larger settlement in which all Europe may find peace. This morning I had another talk with the German Chancellor, Herr Hitler, and here is the paper which bears his name upon it as well as mine. Some of you, perhaps, have already heard what it contains but I would just like to read it to you: ' ... We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again.'[3]

Later that day he stood outside 10 Downing Street and again read from the document and concluded:

My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts. Go home and get a nice quiet sleep.[3]


24 posted on 04/17/2014 11:54:37 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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....so we send them a bunch of money and they keep doing anything they want?


25 posted on 04/17/2014 11:54:52 AM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: jimbo123
The Western Ukrainian nationalists were big fans of registering Jews in WWII. Lvov flashback:

And every other European country handed over its Jews to the Nazis, despite not having either (1) been victimized by Jews in the Soviet leadership and killed by the millions during the Holodomor or (2) set against the Jews through being targeted for extermination themselves as the Ukrainians were. If you want to punish a European country for crimes against Jews by making it a Russian province, that country should be Germany or Austria, not Ukraine. Heck, next to Germany, Russia is the country most responsible for the Holocaust - if the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact hadn't been signed, would Hitler have dared to start World War II, knowing that Germany faced huge armies from both the East and the West? Punish Russia, by helping to dismantle its still massive empire, instead of making it bigger by helping it to annex Ukraine.

26 posted on 04/17/2014 12:03:32 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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requires all sides to refrain from violence, intimidation or provocative actions. It calls for the disarming of all illegally armed groups and for control of buildings seized by pro-Russian separatists during the protests to be turned back over to authorities. Good frickin' grief.......yeah sure that is going to happen. The people in charge are pure 1000% idiots.
27 posted on 04/17/2014 12:04:17 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11))
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requires all sides to refrain from violence, intimidation or provocative actions. It calls for the disarming of all illegally armed groups and for control of buildings seized by pro-Russian separatists during the protests to be turned back over to authorities. Good frickin' grief.......yeah sure that is going to happen. The people in charge are pure 1000% idiots.
28 posted on 04/17/2014 12:05:43 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11))
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To: jimbo123

Ah, some perfumed gentlemen gathered in a comfy room in Geneva and signed a piece of paper.

All will now be well.


29 posted on 04/17/2014 12:20:45 PM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: jimbo123

1. I do not think Putin is negotiating in good faith.

2. I think events on the ground might slip out of control for both Kiev and Kremlin.


30 posted on 04/17/2014 12:24:43 PM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: jimbo123

Yeah, that’s gonna work. Not!!


31 posted on 04/17/2014 12:39:26 PM PDT by Wicket (1 Peter 3:15 , Romans 5:5-8)
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To: BurningOak

Thank you, yes, up to now, the Ukrainians have not stood up to Russian hooliganism. Russian hooligans will eventually force Ukraine to decide whether to stand up to them or to allow them to take over. They will not stop at the provinces with a majority of Russians, but will continue to provinces with any Russians, and will spread to other near Republics including NATO countries. If and when Ukrainians stand up to the Russian hooligans, there is no guarantee that the confrontation won’t escalate into violence, and that the violence won’t then lead to war. Russia can beat Ukraine, but could not be be sure of defeating Ukraine and Poland. Plus, commitment of Russia’s forces would open the Caucuses to Islamic jihadists, and enable the Sunnis to go on the offensive in Syria without fear of Russian reprisal. The deal represents a good bargain for Russia, in terms of Euros and Dollars coveted by Moscow. Russia’s military is not as large or as reliable as you might think. They have an interest in getting their agents and infiltrators under control.


32 posted on 04/17/2014 1:02:49 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: jimbo123
Geneva statement:

Geneva meeting over Ukraine


33 posted on 04/17/2014 11:17:39 PM PDT by caww
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