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Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine
Fox 4 News ^

Posted on 04/17/2014 11:32:05 AM PDT by matt04

Jews in one Ukrainian city were sent notes “indicating that they have to identify themselves as Jews,” U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said Thursday.

“In the year 2014, after all of the miles traveled and all of the journey of history, this is not just intolerable, it’s grotesque,” Kerry said. “It is beyond unacceptable. And any of the people who engage in these kinds of activities — from whatever party or whatever ideology or whatever place they crawl out of — there is no place for that.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: agitprop; antisemitism; donetsk; jews; johnkerry; putin; putinsbuttboys; ukraine
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It's 2AM Mr. President.
1 posted on 04/17/2014 11:32:06 AM PDT by matt04
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To: matt04

It should be noted that it is the RUSSIANS and not the ethnic Ukrainians who are doing this.


2 posted on 04/17/2014 11:33:03 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: matt04

This is bad.


3 posted on 04/17/2014 11:34:25 AM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: matt04

Pretty soon he’ll have all Christians registering over here.


4 posted on 04/17/2014 11:34:35 AM PDT by cll (Serviam!)
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To: matt04

I’m sure the United Nations will issue a strongly worded letter any minute now.


5 posted on 04/17/2014 11:34:53 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /S tag but is it really necessary?)
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To: matt04

It is impossible to know now if this is official Ukrainian government policy or if this is propaganda aimed at a western audience.

I suggest we hold our fire until that becomes plain.


6 posted on 04/17/2014 11:34:57 AM PDT by DManA
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To: matt04


7 posted on 04/17/2014 11:35:34 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The best way to control opposition is to lead it ourselves." -- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin)
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To: matt04
Republicans should immediately call for allowing Ukrainian Jews to immigrate to the USA.
8 posted on 04/17/2014 11:35:56 AM PDT by freerepublicchat
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To: vladimir998

Stepan Bandera Flashback:

http://hnn.us/article/122778

As an uncompromising leader of the militant, terrorist branch of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN), Bandera became a Nazi collaborator who lived with his deputies under German protection after World War II began. In preparation for the attack on the USSR, the Nazis recruited Bandera’s followers to act as Ukrainian-speaking policemen and to serve in two Ukrainian volunteer army battalions. By working with the Nazis, Bandera hoped to free Ukraine from Soviet rule and establish his own government there. An independent Ukraine, Bandera promised, would remain friendly to Germany.

Historian Karel Berkhoff, among others, has shown that Bandera, his deputies, and the Nazis shared a key obsession, namely the notion that the Jews in Ukraine were behind Communism and Stalinist imperialism and must be destroyed. “The Jews of the Soviet Union,” read a Banderist statement, “are the most loyal supporters of the Bolshevik Regime and the vanguard of Muscovite imperialism in the Ukraine.” When the Germans invaded the USSR in June 1941 and captured the East Galician capital of Lvov, Bandera’s lieutenants issued a declaration of independence in his name. They further promised to work closely with Hitler, then helped to launch a pogrom that killed four thousand Lvov Jews in a few days, using weapons ranging from guns to metal poles. “We will lay your heads at Hitler’s feet,” a Banderist pamphlet proclaimed to Ukrainian Jews.


9 posted on 04/17/2014 11:36:05 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: matt04

That flier has to be another false flag op, no local pol would be stupid enough to do anything like that.


10 posted on 04/17/2014 11:36:09 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: vladimir998

Only if it’s burned into his memory, but not if he’s just making stuff up again. The first casualty of war is truth.
(See tag line)


11 posted on 04/17/2014 11:36:38 AM PDT by tumblindice (Are all Democrats inveterate, habitual liars?)
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To: vladimir998
And the Russians are attacking Christian churches & priests in Crimea who are not Russian Orthodox. Putin using the Russian church as a state religion.
12 posted on 04/17/2014 11:37:34 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: vladimir998; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ..
Thanks vladimir998.
It should be noted that it is the RUSSIANS and not the ethnic Ukrainians who are doing this./blockquote>

13 posted on 04/17/2014 11:37:53 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: jimbo123

Bandera was assassinated by KGB agents in the 1950s. The RUSSIANS are persecuting Jews NOW. Pavel Gubarev is alive and kicking and those are his guys who are demanding the Jews register with the separatist government. He is Russian by ethnicity but lives in Ukraine. He was a member of the Progressive Socialist Party. He is a member of a pro-Russian militia. I believe the Ukrainian security forces have him in custody now. He likes pretty uniforms: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-06/ukraine-update-pro-moscow-leader-arrested-donetsk-russians-block-border-cross-points

Here he is in his Russian neo-Nazi party uniform: http://maidantranslations.com/2014/03/09/arrested-self-proclaimed-governor-gubarev-turned-out-to-be-an-inveterate-russian-nazi-photos


14 posted on 04/17/2014 11:40:35 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: matt04
What are you gonna do about it, Lurch? Draw another red line? Have Zero give a speech? Hit the ol' reset button again? Call a UN meeting?

I know, promise to show 'em your happy hat if they stop. Yeah, that's the ticket.

15 posted on 04/17/2014 11:41:37 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: SunkenCiv

It’s the Western Ukrainian Banderists who are sending out those fliers. They have a history of ethnic cleansing of Jews.

Lviv pogroms

The Lviv pogroms were two massacres of Jews living in and near in the city of Lwów, the occupied Poland (now Lviv, Ukraine), that took place from 30 June to 2 July and 25–29 July 1941 during World War II. According to Yad Vashem, 60,000 Jews were killed by Einsatzgruppen, some Ukrainian nationalists and Ukrainian militia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lviv_pogroms


16 posted on 04/17/2014 11:43:00 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: matt04

Russian fascism is in full bloom.


17 posted on 04/17/2014 11:43:04 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: matt04

How awful for those Jewish people who have no idea if they are alone and if they have to comply


18 posted on 04/17/2014 11:43:24 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: All

Helmets are on the way!


19 posted on 04/17/2014 11:44:14 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: vladimir998

“It should be noted that it is the RUSSIANS and not the ethnic Ukrainians who are doing this.”

Russia has the sixth largest population of Jews in the world not counting Israel. Why would they do this?


20 posted on 04/17/2014 11:45:55 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: matt04
Despite questions, State Department says there is “no reason to believe” the fliers aren't authentic.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/defense/kerry-condemns-grotesque-fliers-requiring-eastern-ukrainian-jews-to-register-20140417

Beware of a possible Wag The Dog attempt here.

21 posted on 04/17/2014 11:46:13 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: vladimir998

I hate Russian Nazis.

22 posted on 04/17/2014 11:46:42 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: SunkenCiv; vladimir998

All hail Tsar Putin, Supreme Autocrat of all the Russians, King of Poland, King of Finland.

Gotta keep them Jews (and western Catholics) down.


23 posted on 04/17/2014 11:47:33 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: matt04

I know Joel Rosenberg receives some mixed reviews on this board but his newest novel, The Auschwitz Escape, is excellent and some of the parallels are disconcerting.


24 posted on 04/17/2014 11:49:46 AM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: matt04

I am confused. I think I saw a headline about how the US is mad at Israel for being chummy with Russia. So much propaganda. So little time.


25 posted on 04/17/2014 11:51:41 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: matt04

I read earlier reports than this one and the people are not sure if this is official but rather some faction who distributed these. I don’t think it is official.


26 posted on 04/17/2014 11:51:45 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: varmintman

False flag or not, I hope we’ve learned by now not to take such things sitting down.


27 posted on 04/17/2014 11:52:05 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: matt04

Why is Kerry so shocked? The Dems want to do the same to Tea Party members.


28 posted on 04/17/2014 11:52:41 AM PDT by Fledermaus (Conseravtives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: matt04

Why would anyone believe a word that comes out of john effin kerry’s stupid lying mouth?


29 posted on 04/17/2014 11:53:21 AM PDT by Augie
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To: matt04

Okay, just read this one and it doesn’t give the text of the notice. The notice says they have to register themselves and everything they own and if they don’t do this, they will lose citizenship and have to leave the country. I don’t think it is an official document.


30 posted on 04/17/2014 11:54:08 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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I guess it’s easier to target scapegoats for reprisal when they’re all registered in one convenient database.

Who says persecution has to be inefficient?


31 posted on 04/17/2014 11:57:46 AM PDT by Preston Manning (When standing on the edge of a cliff, a "giant step forward" is NOT progress!)
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To: matt04

             

32 posted on 04/17/2014 12:00:35 PM PDT by tomkat (3% +1)
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To: Marcella


George Soros has a ton of experience registering Jews and their belongings on behalf of Nazis.
33 posted on 04/17/2014 12:01:24 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: matt04

Oy Vey!!


34 posted on 04/17/2014 12:01:55 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: matt04

Rumors are that every job application, school application, and outsourcing contract will require applicant to identify membership in a demographic group.


35 posted on 04/17/2014 12:02:54 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: matt04

The strategy used by Russia is to de-stabilize the population and try to set up a scenario where a segment of the population is identified, and then murdered en masse (200 - 300 casualties) to allow Russia to sweep in on their ‘white horses’ to ‘control the situation’.

I can’t believe the gullibility of some members here.


36 posted on 04/17/2014 12:03:11 PM PDT by RideForever
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To: Fido969

Plus, Juden have to pay a $50/person registration “fee”, Obama is not sure yet if it is a tax, or a penalty. And list their property.


37 posted on 04/17/2014 12:03:45 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: matt04

“Well, Anatevka hasn’t been exactly the Garden of Eden.”


38 posted on 04/17/2014 12:03:54 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: matt04

In the notice, Jewish residents were ordered to register with the pro-Russians or be deported. The notices were handed to Jews near the local synagogue, reports Novosti Donbassa, and targeted Jews for allegedly supporting Ukraine against the pro-Russians.

The notice orders all Jews over 16 years of age to register in front of the government building that has been occupied by pro-Russian forces. It further orders Jews to pay a registration fee of $50 before May 3 and list all real estate and vehicles owned.

“In case of failure to register, the perpetrators will be stripped of their citizenship and deported forcibly outside the country with confiscation of property,” read the notice.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/179704#.U1AlkZtOWM8


39 posted on 04/17/2014 12:06:07 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: vladimir998

I noted that. I have read that the protestors on the other side are also anti-Semitic.


40 posted on 04/17/2014 12:07:47 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: vladimir998
All parties at international talks on the Ukraine crisis Thursday unanimously condemned anti-Semitism and other forms of religious intolerance, Kerry said.

Also, members of the Russian Orthodox church in Ukraine were recently threatened that they would be attacked in the coming days by members of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, Kerry said.

This all sounds like a disinformation campaign. Remember that the Russians likened the new Ukrainian regime to the Nazis and noted the anti-semitism of one of the Ukrainian parties.

41 posted on 04/17/2014 12:10:22 PM PDT by kabar
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To: matt04

It starts with registration.


42 posted on 04/17/2014 12:10:57 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: jimbo123
George Soros has a ton of experience registering Jews and their belongings on behalf of Nazis.

Instead of blaming Germans or Russians (who abetted the Germans), you blame Jewish collaborators and Ukrainians who were basically trying to stay alive despite German extermination orders. Is this because you enjoy your ultimate driving machine whereas Ukrainians are just a bunch of dirty Slavs?

43 posted on 04/17/2014 12:11:47 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: matt04

Not that the Jews aren’t frequently targeted by morons and evil people, but there is so much false flag propagandizing going on in the Ukrainian/Russian cauldron, that I do have to wonder if one side is “inventing facts” to discredit the other side and stir the pot.


44 posted on 04/17/2014 12:14:06 PM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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To: varmintman
Michael Salberg, director of the international affairs at the New York City-based Anti-Defamation League, said it's unclear whether the leaflets were issued by the pro-Russian leadership or a splinter group operating within the pro-Russian camp.

But the Russian side has used the specter of anti-Semitism in a cynical manner since anti-government protests began in Kiev that resulted in the ousting of Ukraine's pro-Russian former president Viktor Yanukovych. Russia and its allies in Ukraine issued multiple stories about the the threat posed to Jews by Ukraine's new pro-Western government in Kiev, Salberg said.

Those stories were based in part on ultra-nationalists who joined the Maidan protests, and the inclusion of the ultra-nationalist Svoboda party in Ukraine's new interim government. But the threat turned out to be false, he said.

45 posted on 04/17/2014 12:14:39 PM PDT by kabar
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To: matt04

Time for a reset button.


46 posted on 04/17/2014 12:14:58 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: vladimir998

Got any proof?


47 posted on 04/17/2014 12:16:13 PM PDT by pgkdan
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To: jimbo123

It’s the Western Ukrainian Banderists who are sending out those fliers. They have a history of ethnic cleansing of Jews.


Are the banderistas also dressing Gubarev in neo-nazi uniforms? You keep good company, FRiend.


48 posted on 04/17/2014 12:18:17 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: cookcounty
Not that the Jews aren’t frequently targeted by morons and evil people, but there is so much false flag propagandizing going on in the Ukrainian/Russian cauldron, that I do have to wonder if one side is “inventing facts” to discredit the other side and stir the pot.

Ukrainian PR stinks. That's why Ukraine has only been an independent nation for 20 years. The better the disinformation, the better the odds that it originated from Russia. After all, they convinced some of the world that the CIA invented AIDS to kill black people.

49 posted on 04/17/2014 12:18:45 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: vladimir998

Oh, shut up. You don’t know who is doing this. False flag ops are common with liberal propagandists.


50 posted on 04/17/2014 12:19:16 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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