Skip to comments.Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine
Posted on 04/17/2014 11:32:05 AM PDT by matt04
Jews in one Ukrainian city were sent notes indicating that they have to identify themselves as Jews, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said Thursday.
In the year 2014, after all of the miles traveled and all of the journey of history, this is not just intolerable, its grotesque, Kerry said. It is beyond unacceptable. And any of the people who engage in these kinds of activities from whatever party or whatever ideology or whatever place they crawl out of there is no place for that.
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It should be noted that it is the RUSSIANS and not the ethnic Ukrainians who are doing this.
This is bad.
Pretty soon he’ll have all Christians registering over here.
I’m sure the United Nations will issue a strongly worded letter any minute now.
It is impossible to know now if this is official Ukrainian government policy or if this is propaganda aimed at a western audience.
I suggest we hold our fire until that becomes plain.
Stepan Bandera Flashback:
As an uncompromising leader of the militant, terrorist branch of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN), Bandera became a Nazi collaborator who lived with his deputies under German protection after World War II began. In preparation for the attack on the USSR, the Nazis recruited Banderas followers to act as Ukrainian-speaking policemen and to serve in two Ukrainian volunteer army battalions. By working with the Nazis, Bandera hoped to free Ukraine from Soviet rule and establish his own government there. An independent Ukraine, Bandera promised, would remain friendly to Germany.
Historian Karel Berkhoff, among others, has shown that Bandera, his deputies, and the Nazis shared a key obsession, namely the notion that the Jews in Ukraine were behind Communism and Stalinist imperialism and must be destroyed. The Jews of the Soviet Union, read a Banderist statement, are the most loyal supporters of the Bolshevik Regime and the vanguard of Muscovite imperialism in the Ukraine. When the Germans invaded the USSR in June 1941 and captured the East Galician capital of Lvov, Banderas lieutenants issued a declaration of independence in his name. They further promised to work closely with Hitler, then helped to launch a pogrom that killed four thousand Lvov Jews in a few days, using weapons ranging from guns to metal poles. We will lay your heads at Hitlers feet, a Banderist pamphlet proclaimed to Ukrainian Jews.
That flier has to be another false flag op, no local pol would be stupid enough to do anything like that.
Only if it’s burned into his memory, but not if he’s just making stuff up again. The first casualty of war is truth.
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It should be noted that it is the RUSSIANS and not the ethnic Ukrainians who are doing this./blockquote>
Bandera was assassinated by KGB agents in the 1950s. The RUSSIANS are persecuting Jews NOW. Pavel Gubarev is alive and kicking and those are his guys who are demanding the Jews register with the separatist government. He is Russian by ethnicity but lives in Ukraine. He was a member of the Progressive Socialist Party. He is a member of a pro-Russian militia. I believe the Ukrainian security forces have him in custody now. He likes pretty uniforms: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-06/ukraine-update-pro-moscow-leader-arrested-donetsk-russians-block-border-cross-points
Here he is in his Russian neo-Nazi party uniform: http://maidantranslations.com/2014/03/09/arrested-self-proclaimed-governor-gubarev-turned-out-to-be-an-inveterate-russian-nazi-photos
I know, promise to show 'em your happy hat if they stop. Yeah, that's the ticket.
It’s the Western Ukrainian Banderists who are sending out those fliers. They have a history of ethnic cleansing of Jews.
The Lviv pogroms were two massacres of Jews living in and near in the city of Lwów, the occupied Poland (now Lviv, Ukraine), that took place from 30 June to 2 July and 2529 July 1941 during World War II. According to Yad Vashem, 60,000 Jews were killed by Einsatzgruppen, some Ukrainian nationalists and Ukrainian militia.
Russian fascism is in full bloom.
How awful for those Jewish people who have no idea if they are alone and if they have to comply
Helmets are on the way!
“It should be noted that it is the RUSSIANS and not the ethnic Ukrainians who are doing this.”
Russia has the sixth largest population of Jews in the world not counting Israel. Why would they do this?
Beware of a possible Wag The Dog attempt here.
All hail Tsar Putin, Supreme Autocrat of all the Russians, King of Poland, King of Finland.
Gotta keep them Jews (and western Catholics) down.
I know Joel Rosenberg receives some mixed reviews on this board but his newest novel, The Auschwitz Escape, is excellent and some of the parallels are disconcerting.
I am confused. I think I saw a headline about how the US is mad at Israel for being chummy with Russia. So much propaganda. So little time.
I read earlier reports than this one and the people are not sure if this is official but rather some faction who distributed these. I don’t think it is official.
False flag or not, I hope we’ve learned by now not to take such things sitting down.
Why is Kerry so shocked? The Dems want to do the same to Tea Party members.
Why would anyone believe a word that comes out of john effin kerry’s stupid lying mouth?
Okay, just read this one and it doesn’t give the text of the notice. The notice says they have to register themselves and everything they own and if they don’t do this, they will lose citizenship and have to leave the country. I don’t think it is an official document.
I guess it’s easier to target scapegoats for reprisal when they’re all registered in one convenient database.
Who says persecution has to be inefficient?
Rumors are that every job application, school application, and outsourcing contract will require applicant to identify membership in a demographic group.
The strategy used by Russia is to de-stabilize the population and try to set up a scenario where a segment of the population is identified, and then murdered en masse (200 - 300 casualties) to allow Russia to sweep in on their ‘white horses’ to ‘control the situation’.
I can’t believe the gullibility of some members here.
Plus, Juden have to pay a $50/person registration “fee”, Obama is not sure yet if it is a tax, or a penalty. And list their property.
“Well, Anatevka hasn’t been exactly the Garden of Eden.”
In the notice, Jewish residents were ordered to register with the pro-Russians or be deported. The notices were handed to Jews near the local synagogue, reports Novosti Donbassa, and targeted Jews for allegedly supporting Ukraine against the pro-Russians.
The notice orders all Jews over 16 years of age to register in front of the government building that has been occupied by pro-Russian forces. It further orders Jews to pay a registration fee of $50 before May 3 and list all real estate and vehicles owned.
“In case of failure to register, the perpetrators will be stripped of their citizenship and deported forcibly outside the country with confiscation of property,” read the notice.
I noted that. I have read that the protestors on the other side are also anti-Semitic.
Also, members of the Russian Orthodox church in Ukraine were recently threatened that they would be attacked in the coming days by members of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, Kerry said.
This all sounds like a disinformation campaign. Remember that the Russians likened the new Ukrainian regime to the Nazis and noted the anti-semitism of one of the Ukrainian parties.
It starts with registration.
Instead of blaming Germans or Russians (who abetted the Germans), you blame Jewish collaborators and Ukrainians who were basically trying to stay alive despite German extermination orders. Is this because you enjoy your ultimate driving machine whereas Ukrainians are just a bunch of dirty Slavs?
Not that the Jews aren’t frequently targeted by morons and evil people, but there is so much false flag propagandizing going on in the Ukrainian/Russian cauldron, that I do have to wonder if one side is “inventing facts” to discredit the other side and stir the pot.
But the Russian side has used the specter of anti-Semitism in a cynical manner since anti-government protests began in Kiev that resulted in the ousting of Ukraine's pro-Russian former president Viktor Yanukovych. Russia and its allies in Ukraine issued multiple stories about the the threat posed to Jews by Ukraine's new pro-Western government in Kiev, Salberg said.
Those stories were based in part on ultra-nationalists who joined the Maidan protests, and the inclusion of the ultra-nationalist Svoboda party in Ukraine's new interim government. But the threat turned out to be false, he said.
Time for a reset button.
Got any proof?
Its the Western Ukrainian Banderists who are sending out those fliers. They have a history of ethnic cleansing of Jews.
Are the banderistas also dressing Gubarev in neo-nazi uniforms? You keep good company, FRiend.
Ukrainian PR stinks. That's why Ukraine has only been an independent nation for 20 years. The better the disinformation, the better the odds that it originated from Russia. After all, they convinced some of the world that the CIA invented AIDS to kill black people.
Oh, shut up. You don’t know who is doing this. False flag ops are common with liberal propagandists.