Skip to comments.Eight million people signed up for healthcare, Obama announces ("This thing is working")
Posted on 04/17/2014 2:29:33 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
WASHINGTON Driven by a last-minute flood of enrollments, particularly in California, sign-ups for health insurance through the Affordable Care Acts online marketplaces hit 8 million in the laws first year, President Obama announced Thursday.
That beats the forecast by 1 million people and caps a remarkable comeback from a disastrous rollout last fall that gave rise to predictions the law would collapse in its maiden year.
Instead, the health law, often called Obamacare, has helped bring about the largest increase in insurance coverage in the U.S. in half a century.
This thing is working, Obama said from the White House briefing room, taking a jab at Republican critics who continue to pledge to roll back the law. The repeal debate is, and should be, over.
California alone signed up more than 200,000 consumers for coverage in the last two weeks, the state announced Thursday, bringing the state's first-year total to nearly 1.4 million people, many more than any other state.
Millions more Americans have signed up for health insurance without using the marketplaces, including through Medicaid, employers or directly from insurers. That has helped to dramatically drive down the nations uninsured rate, according to a growing number of national surveys.
Estimates of the total gain in insurance coverage nationally are still preliminary. And enrollment is continuing on several state insurance marketplaces, which have extended their deadlines past the April 15 date used by California and the marketplaces operated by the federal government in 36 states.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
LA Times. Oh boy ...
Depends on how you define “is”....
Still no definite word on exactly how many of these enrollees have actually enrolled by paying for their selected plans, nor how many were previously uninsured.
WHY DON’T THEY GIVE OUT THESE ALL IMPORTANT DATA?
Obama did reveal some demographics, however, informing us that 35 percent of the signups were from people under the age of 35.
Next question: Will this 8 million figure (if true) make the REPEAL movement more difficult?
The key is what % PAID.
The longer this thing gets entrenched, no matter how disastrous, the harder it will be to get rid of.
And it WILL get disastrous.
Subject: The enormity of World War II
During the 3-1/2 years of World War 2 that started with the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor in December 1941 and ended with the Surrender of Germany and Japan in 1945, the U.S. produced 22 aircraft carriers, 8 battleships, 48 cruisers, 349 destroyers, 420 destroyer escorts, 203 submarines, 34 million tons of merchant ships, 100,000 fighter aircraft, 98,000 bombers, 24,000 transport aircraft, 58,000 training aircraft, 93,000 tanks, 257,000 artillery pieces, 105,000 mortars, 3,000,000 machine guns, and 2,500,000 military trucks.
We put 16.1 million men in uniform in the various armed services, invaded Africa, invaded Sicily and Italy, won the battle for the Atlantic, planned and executed D-Day, marched across the Pacific and Europe, developed the atomic bomb and ultimately conquered Japan and Germany.
It's worth noting, that during the almost exact amount of time, the Obama administration couldn't build a functioning web site.
So, 8 million people tapped on a few computer keys. That’s all.
It’s amazing how people will cooperate when the President Of The United States threatens to label them as law breakers, fine them, and use the criminals in the IRS to take their money if they don’t do as he says.
Yeah, and the more it “works,” the unhealthier and broker we will be. Higher costs, higher taxes, fewer providers, less care now. Rationing and death panels to follow.
And they’ll never talk about how many of those who signed up are already slipping through the wide cracks in CommieCare.
He makes these things up on the fly or else gets them from Bob Beckel in the morning briefing,
Next week 15M will have signed up...
As believable as anything else they have said up to now.
I bet we eventually find a concerted effort, like an ACORN movement, that was just signing up “Mickey Mouse” and “Bruce Banner” for Obamacare, totalling hundreds of thousands of fake enrollees.
It’s working as well as Andre’s Johnson.
And that anyone who begs to differ is a racist hater.
In business, it is all about the net. So how many people lost their coverage or were severely downgraded to get these 8 million signups?
How many of these were Medicare/Medicaid? did those count?
How many paid?
How many (especially in CA) are illegals?
And 81% KNOW that he is lying.
Millions of Americans intimidated into knuckling under to the nanny — state by fear of the IRS.
And the creep from Hawaii/Indonesia is celebrating.
Must be due to the IRS questioning.
I bought $8,000,000 worth of goods from Amazon today.
But they are all still in my shopping cart.
Whoopee!! 8 million! Out of some 35 million without insurance. And 7 of those 8 million were people who had perfectly good insurance before Obungholecare
and lost it. Like Joe the Idiot said, “This is a big f’n deal!”
It was obvious from the start that this wasn’t about anyone’s “health care”. It was about wresting yet more control-more than we may even as of yet realise-from people over their own lives. When this planned disaster finally self-destructs, the answer will be “single payer”, and the control will be out in the open and complete. The Beast Fedzilla will know everytime any person hiccups. It was to take away what privacy remains, and take more control of the economy, which adds to the first goal. Who needs all the money in the world when they have all the power and control in the world? The Commies operated that way.
An essential element of a prima facie case of either fraud or misrepresentation is `reliance’ (on the part of the person being misled) and `damages’ that they suffer as a result of relying on the false statements.
The LA Times is carrying water for the Democrats here lying about the number because, well—that’s what they do. They know Obamacare is tanking fast.
But they don’t want it removed from life support, i.e. tax dollars, because there is nothing Democrats love more than tax dollars. (Unless it’s union dues.)
If they gave the public the true facts, even those who are covered but paying nothing into it (`subsidized’) may figure out that the services that they got before (ambulances, etc., and paid nothing for) may be in jeopardy if Obamacare kills the Golden Goose, the healthcare industry that delivers illegal aliens’ babies and provides ER services to them `No charge’.
So, they have to try to get people to rely on their lies knowing that eventually we will all be damaged when everything goes tits-up. `Eventually you run out of other peoples’ money.’ MT
Let me get this right... he gets 5 million people’s insurance cancelled, they go out and replace it, and he’s taking credit for that. Class act... all low.
In the receent past when they tried blowing smoke about the low numbers they claimed the site wasn't set up to keep count.
Or someone programmed a computer to make a few million entries.
If you don’t sign up they fine you and stick the IRS on you. I could sell dog shit by mail under those circumstances....
...or the 21 million as an expectation for the first year.
82% increase in my health care premium since August 2012. This is a big f’ing deal to me. Working? Yes on the Me to death part
Obama promised ACA would be “revenue neutral.” The only way it works is if its revenues equal or exceed its expenditures and even the rosiest forecasts don't predict that ever happening. This is a giant new entitlement that is creating an economic black hole.
Actually, according to surveys from the Urban Institute Health Monitor,
Roughly 2.6 million people whose plans were cancelled as a result of Obamacare.
So, what happens to these folks who saw their health insurance policy cancelled?
According to the Urban Institute researchers :
While our sample size of those with non-group health insurance who report that their plan was cancelled due to ACA compliance is small (N=123), we estimate that over half of this population is likely to be eligible for coverage assistance, mostly through Marketplace subsidies. Consistent with these findings, other work by Urban Institute researchers estimated that slightly more than half of adults with pre-reform, nongroup coverage would be eligible for Marketplace subsidies or Medicaid.
Dead voters are no problem for Dems to produce. Dead healthcare signers would be ideal for them.
Deathcare: The crowning achievement of the Obama presidency.
More than likely.
We’ve already found out that the BLS is already creating funny “facts.”
And that's the best-case scenario, assuming that the numbers are real and that the insurance actually translates into healthcare, both of which are likely false.
This truly is the MO of a sicko abuser. Beat up, rob, starve, demoralize, and humiliate the captive, then hold out a hand of compassion. Or healthcare, as it were.
or "thing" or "works"
I would bet donuts to dollars that that last week or two, HHS had people sitting at computer keyboards with voter lists and they were adding people as fast as they could.
7.1 was the number of rows in the DB table that holds the enrollees information for this farce. Actual insurance policies not so much.
I am also guessing that there will be no independent audit to ensure that any numbers are correct.
Just curious, what source tells us that 5 million people’s health insurance have been cancelled?
In the closing days of the open enrollment period for the Affordable Care Act (ACA) , the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) was mailing out letters notifying certain Americans that they had already started a healthcare coverage application on their behalf.
The HHS letter stated that the information they used to begin the application for individual Healthcare was obtain by the state agency in charge of implementing Obamacare.
The next step for the individual would be visit Healthcare.gov and complete the already started application to see if they qualify for Marketplace coverage.
News of the HHS letter was first mentioned by a listener of the popular Daybreak with Drew Steele Show on Fox 92.5, which is out of Fort Myers, Florida.(Excerpt)
Read more at: http://www.shark-tank.com/2014/04/04/hhs-started-individual-obamaca ...
NEED TO KNOW:
(1) which states participated in giving confidential information to HHS, and,
(2) how would state agencies know which of their citizens would want or need a new Obamacare-compliant policy.......without violating that individual's privacy--and without consulting the individual?
PLUS---this is a biggie: for an application to be legally enforced, the individual would have had to sign it. Who signed the app?
Forgery must be considered.
When a third party commits you to a financial transaction, that person is considered your fiduciary....and should not act WRT a payment method or other financial burden that conflicts with your best interests.
NOTE WELL About a week ago, a few courageous people in California went public with the disclosure that in applying for health care on the state exchange, they received completed "voter registration forms" pre-checked Democrat.
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Yeah, just who signed up, not who paid. The Leftists never tell you the truth, only half-truths. The reason they’re in power is the gullibility of enough voters.
IDK. Maybe there isn’t one. So many numbers floating around. I figured the poster was in a general sense describing how the POS is busy destroying real health insurance and healthcare and then offering out his hand to lift up the uninsured.
A whole lot more than 5 million are being abused. :(
Next week the enrollment numbers will be 7 Billion. The whole planet loves Obastard. “Citizens of the World!!!”