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Activists to UMich: Admit unqualified students, if they are black
The Daily Caller ^ | April 16, 2014 | Robby Soave

Posted on 04/17/2014 9:11:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Activists with the radical pro-affirmative action group, By Any Means Necessary, staged a protest on Tuesday featuring a black Detroit high school student who was denied admission to the University of Michigan.

The student, Brooke Kimbrough, claimed UM rejected her because of her “morals,” and not her below-average ACT score of 23. (The average U-M student has a score between 28 and 32.)

“I believe that I have been rejected because of the morals that I stand for,” said Kimbrough, according to Fox 2 news. “I will take back my freedom as a tool to help others. I have left the plantation to get my freedom but I am coming back for you, too. I will make it my civic duty to document every news of a rejection letter that the university produces to our black, brown and red bodies.”

Kimbrough’s comments follow weeks of increasing tensions over race at U-M. BAMN activists, as well as minority students with the Black Student Union, another group, have continuously demanded increased black and Latino enrollment, even though a state constitutional amendment prohibits administrators from considering race as a factor toward admission....

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; anymeansnecessary; bamn; blackkk; blacks; blackstudentunion; brookekimbrough; college; demagogue; demagogues; detroit; michigan; quotas; racenorming; redistribution; reparations; thugs
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I'm sure Martin Luther King, Jr. is so proud.
1 posted on 04/17/2014 9:11:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the libtards have blasted past idiotic on the way to insane.

i say we force everyone to shave their heads, be completely painted blue, and wear a mouth guard that makes everyone’s voice sound like a robot.

end the race baiters forever.


2 posted on 04/17/2014 9:19:10 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“campus police are going to rough you up a little on the way out...”


3 posted on 04/17/2014 9:20:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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“I believe that I have been rejected because of the morals that I stand for

Take your beliefs and morals and go to a community college for a couple of years.

Dr. Sowell has written much on the injustice that mismatching students to their schools do to them. An average student graduating from an average school does much better in life than one who enters but fails at a school above his capabilities.

4 posted on 04/17/2014 9:21:38 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Admit them and then have them flunk out after 2 semesters? That’s going to turn out well.....


5 posted on 04/17/2014 9:32:08 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s what the football and basketball teams are for.


6 posted on 04/17/2014 9:32:46 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just because you can balance a ball of yarn on your head while you speak into a microphone, that doesn't qualify you for college admission.

7 posted on 04/17/2014 9:40:11 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They could be admitted and given straight A’s on every course offered and they would still fail the only test that really counts - the Test of Life.


8 posted on 04/17/2014 9:42:38 PM PDT by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: Paladin2

Actually, she’ll be on academic probation for three more semesters after those first two. Plenty of time to get the “Don’t flunk us out just because we’re too stupid for college” banners crayoned up.


9 posted on 04/17/2014 9:43:32 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thought they started that practice years ago.


10 posted on 04/17/2014 10:22:18 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Admitting unqualified students will lead to them failing school and be loaded up on debt.


11 posted on 04/17/2014 10:31:27 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: FredZarguna

Let me point this out. Around thirty years ago...universities started to put pre-college courses on their offerings...and forcing a number of students to take college classes which were less than math 101 or English 101. The whole gimmick was because numerous kids were showing up and unable to do first-year college work. They forced you into a room...to take a test, and the result was that you’d be denied 101 type classes until you took the pre-college class. At that time, it was around $300 for the class. I failed the math exam and this was the gimmick they wanted me to do.

Instead, I walked over to the base education office...took the math 101 CLEP test and passed it. No cost, automatic college credit, and I skipped this whole gimmick.

So, let me tell you how this UMich deal works. The unqualified students will be brought in. They won’t be able to do real college work....so they will do pre-college classes (maybe four classes, maybe ten). Who pays? Well, I’m guessing that the university will rig up some hidden deal where all students are paying into a pot for the unqualified classes to be covered, or the state will be forced to pay. An entire year will be wasted on the catch-up classes. If you had bad learning habits before....nothing will happen with the trend, and you will quit by the end of the this first year.

It’s a gimmick, for more customers, and more junior professors who are now teaching below the line....to kids mostly at the eighth grade level. The high school and county board were stupid enough to pass them no matter what, with lousy instructors throughout their years in middle and high school. This is the result.

We might as well create a fresh new concept called ‘college school’, which is where you go after high school, to teach you what you should have learned in twelve years. The activists aren’t stupid....it’s just that they aren’t willing to tackle county education boards and demand responsibility on their part, or demand teachers be fired when they can’t teach at a competent level.


12 posted on 04/17/2014 10:31:37 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Basing admissions on skin color is Racism. No other word for it.


13 posted on 04/17/2014 10:34:38 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And when she starts failing everything because her abilities are subpar (I assume with an ACT score so far below the norm she has difficulties) what does she do then? Have another temper tantrum, to which the U with run around trying to find ways to give her, her way.


14 posted on 04/18/2014 12:34:56 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just another example of Black Race Privilege. Blacks must never be judged negatively by the content of their character, academic qualifications, or for any reason. They must be judged positively by the color of their skin.


15 posted on 04/18/2014 1:34:10 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Looks like she could be a future First lady. Seems to me I have seen a picture of Michelle and her husband in their younger school days that resembles the pictured scene.


16 posted on 04/18/2014 1:38:10 AM PDT by funfan
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To: I still care

I was thinking about this with the President of Western Washington University wanting to be “less white”. You get the white suburban kids and these disadvantaged black youth.

In five years, the white kids graduate and leave. The black kids are two years behind and stay on. Do that a few cycles and pretty soon he’ll reach his goal.


17 posted on 04/18/2014 1:38:47 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: FredZarguna

18 posted on 04/18/2014 1:43:41 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: I still care

And then, when she finally graduates with faux high honors, she will be afforded a high paying job in entity where she will holler racism and thus be promoted to ever higher positions of responsibility. Along the way, she’ll be afforded competent staff to really handle her workload. That staff will not get the rewards for doing her job, she will. Said job will be in “Human Resources”, or some such non-pedal to the metal job.

I worked at Ford during the reign of the terrorist Jac Nasser and saw this type of thing happen when the terrorist decided there were too many white faces in positions of responsibility.

Oh, and Rick Snyder and the state legislature will continue to be sure to make sure UM gets its fair share of taxpayer dollars all along the way.


19 posted on 04/18/2014 2:23:24 AM PDT by RushLake (Nothing can bring you peace but the triumph of principles. (Emerson))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does a 23 even get her into Saginaw Valley St. or UM-Dearbornistan? Before all this AA junk blacks had to be actually better than whites as not be proven intellectually inferior. My how we have fallen.


20 posted on 04/18/2014 3:03:33 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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Brooke Kimbrough

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140415/SCHOOLS/304150030

Kimbrough, 17, who has a 3.5 GPA and belongs to her school’s prize-winning debate team, says she’s making a stand for herself and other minority applicants.

“It represents a bigger struggle than just me — making the community more diverse in a multitude of ways,” she said. “I know that is what U-M stands for. But the university cannot say it’s (diverse) if it doesn’t have equal representation.”

 

############  She looks more like 25



21 posted on 04/18/2014 3:06:40 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why bother to have standards? Open the gates and let them all in/s


22 posted on 04/18/2014 3:11:20 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Black Studies major? It’s amazing how unifying was the election for POTUS of a black community organizer.


23 posted on 04/18/2014 3:14:04 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think they're going to be disappointed when the supreme court finally hands down its decision on the Michigan case. The appeals court handed down a bizarre ruling that BAMN is too poor to fight so they win. The case went to the US supreme court last fall.

(November 2012) US Court Strikes Down Michigan Affirmative Action Ban
24 posted on 04/18/2014 3:38:00 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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The neverending story continues.

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Michigan legislative action thread
25 posted on 04/18/2014 3:39:59 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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Activists to UMich: Admit unqualified students, if they are black

Ever notice that, if you're conservative and feel strongly about a particular issue, you are called an "extremist", but if you're liberal and feel strongly about an issue, you are called an "activist."

26 posted on 04/18/2014 3:40:33 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah, why not, it would only be in defiance of a court ruling.


27 posted on 04/18/2014 4:05:34 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Her team won the ‘urban debate’ national championship?

So they have even tracked debate competitions now?


28 posted on 04/18/2014 4:08:53 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SunkenCiv

This is why I continue to harass FReepers to vote in college administration elections where ever possible. Dr Rob Steele is one of the guys running for a UofM board of regents seat.

http://drrobsteeleforregent.com/


29 posted on 04/18/2014 4:12:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is what makes a college degree not worth any more than a piece of paper.


30 posted on 04/18/2014 4:13:08 AM PDT by dforest
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Thanks, I'll save that info. She's a race hustler, eh?
...claimed UM rejected her because of her "morals," and not ...her below-average ACT score of 23. (The average U-M student has a score between 28 and 32.) "I believe that I have been rejected because of the morals that I stand for... I will take back my freedom as a tool to help others. I have left the plantation to get my freedom but I am coming back for you, too. I will make it my civic duty to document every news of a rejection letter that the university produces to our black, brown and red bodies."
That's a tipping point -- I've never met a lib who didn't resent this particular category of entitlement regarding getting hired or school admission based on a color bar and "underutilization".
31 posted on 04/18/2014 4:17:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: RushLake

Sounds like the typical head of HR for any state or federal agency.


32 posted on 04/18/2014 4:26:58 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My roommate in college was black, I’m white. We didn’t know each other but were assigned to the room before Freshman year. She sent me a letter introducing herself with a picture, at 18 I didn’t think anything of it but I wonder if she was wondering if I was black or racist? Anyway, I called her that summer and we talked for two hours. I don’t remember ever filling out a questionnaire but they had us perfectly matched, conservative, grew up in a small town, lots of similar likes. We stayed roommates for the duration. The one thing that always bothered her was that she said she knew people thought she was only there because of AA. She was very much against it, as she thought it made people think she was stupid when she had the grades and test scores to get in. It also drove us both nuts when once a month we’d get a knock on the door and the radical Black Student Union would be there to recruit her. She would tell them she wasn’t interested and they’d keep sticking fliers in our mailbox and coming back. They told her she shouldn’t be roommates with me. She said why, I have more in common with her then you! They called her every name in the book. Said she was blind and betraying her race. That I was some rich white girl she was trying to be like, I’m actually quite sure her family was much better off then mine. We had an American flag up in our room and they complained about me putting up the “racist” flag. She had put up the flag, honoring her brother who was in Kuwait, and of course I had no problem with it. When they found this out she was then called brainwashed. I don’t know how she put up with it all. We had both black and white students in our group of friends, but she was constantly harassed. She would be a great person to be an administrator at UM. Then again, she wanted a real job and was into Physics!


33 posted on 04/18/2014 4:33:18 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: SunkenCiv

One of the things they kind of gloss over is the reason they use the SAT and entrance exam scores above the students GPA and test scores from high school.

It appears she has a 3.5 GPA which is pretty good, better than mine was, but I went to a school in the suburbs outside Detroit. Just showing up for class and ATTEMPTING to learn in many Detroit schools can earn you an A without even trying now.


34 posted on 04/18/2014 4:56:33 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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She’s not from a Detroit school, she’s from Andover in Birmingham but her ACT score is abysmal.

She’s pulling the same crap that the other BAMN students at U of M tried earlier this year with their demands.

These kids don’t have the same academic and life accomplishments as the other students entering Michigan, but like Obama, they want to be given everything they want without putting in the work.

When they get the special privileges it’s due to skin color, but when they don’t, they blame the skin.

A thinking person can’t win with this crowd.


35 posted on 04/18/2014 5:11:40 AM PDT by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage (Not my circus, not my monkeys.)
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The neverending story continues.

LOL! The perpetually angry skin collective and its enablers, supporters, perpetrators, puppet-masters and capitulators strikes again.

36 posted on 04/18/2014 5:31:12 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She is probably used to getting everything else without achievement.


37 posted on 04/18/2014 5:44:21 AM PDT by boycott
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I mean, the hair-do ALONE should disqualify her.


38 posted on 04/18/2014 6:12:15 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: Uncle Lonny

Oh yeah, I like it. Time to push the “Black Priviliedge” label right back down their throats.


39 posted on 04/18/2014 6:14:27 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: dennisw

I love how they argue that admitting more blacks will improve Michigan by making it more “diverse” (I never quite understood how this has anything to do with improving anyone’s education, but okay) - and then they turn right around and form a Black Student Union. So much for diversified interaction on campus.


40 posted on 04/18/2014 6:24:47 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why not admit unqualified black folks?

We did it with our POTUS.


41 posted on 04/18/2014 7:24:57 AM PDT by polymuser
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"demand teachers be fired when they can’t teach at a competent level"

I'm a high school science teacher. The problem with graduating under-prepared students runs very deep. If I were to fail every student who couldn't pass grade-level tests in chemistry, I'd have to fail half or more of each class. This is in a suburban parochial school. When I taught in the inner city, I would have had to fail nearly all of them - and that was biology. By the time they come to high school, many of them are hopelessly behind where they need to be, with weak reading and math skills, and poor work habits. My handful of exchange students from Asia run circles around them, despite somewhat limited English proficiency.

We need to be willing to address academic failure in the early primary grades. Students who can't read properly should not be progressing beyond 3rd grade until they do. Likewise basic math. Social promotion and 'feel-good' self esteem building are doing these kids a terrible disservice. They are passed along year to year with deficient knowledge and skills. By the time they're in high school, it is next to impossible to catch up to where they should be. The top kids are still doing OK, but the average and slightly below average kids are not. A high school teacher can't hold the standard and fail those who don't measure up. Admin will over-ride the grades, fire the teacher, or both.

It has to be fixed with a top-to-bottom commitment to honest reporting and genuine achievement. That also means we need to face the unpleasant reality that not all kids have the ability to learn the most difficult material. I have students who haven't a prayer of understanding chemistry. They should have a drastically modified science course or a more practical academic track. This flies in the face of our society's misguided sense of equity.

I don't disagree that there are poor teachers out there. I've met quite a few. Every field of work has stars, average performers, and under-performers. However, I truly don't think we can put the massive failure of our educational system entirely at the feet of teachers. Education is a reflection of many ills in our society, and we can do much better without firing all the teachers.

42 posted on 04/18/2014 7:35:44 AM PDT by Think free or die
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In the Mid 90's the Late and Great David Brudnoi ( Gay Libertarian Talk Show host WBZ in Boston ) had a discussion one evening with a panel of esteems guest, and their subject matter was Political Correctness and tangent topics. One of the guest noted because of Admissions Quota's, Students are getting into Schools like Harvard and Yale and Flunking out when in fact they are good kids, bright students, but might be better suited for a Westfield State, a North Adams State, or in this case of Michigan, Eastern Michigan University. They will graduate from some 4 year College? Yes, do they have the Chops for Big 10 Top 30, maybe not. Maybe some of these kids aren't U of M material, that's ok, ( IMHO U of M is so full of itself and drinking it's own Kool-Aide it isn't funny. )

Look for greener pastures, a school that is a better fit, simple as that...

43 posted on 04/18/2014 8:09:47 AM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Gamecock; F15Eagle

“The student, Brooke Kimbrough, ...”

********************

Stu: This is James Kimbrough.

Kimbrough: Nice to meet you, pleasure, thanks for coming in.

George: Kimbrough.

Jerry: Don’t spell.

George: K-I-M-B-R-O-U-G-H

Kimbrough: That’s right.

George: It’s a talent I have.


44 posted on 04/18/2014 8:31:47 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; cripplecreek; SunkenCiv; Secret Agent Man; PGalt; jenk; Darren McCarty; ...
Some in the media have attempted to draw a connection between Kimbrough and Jennifer Gratz, a white applicant who was denied admission to U-M in the 1990s, at a time when the university awarded bonus admissions points to minority applicants. After winning at the Supreme Court and leading a statewide ballot petition drive, Gratz succeeded in forcing the university to abandon its practice of considering applicants’ racial makeup.

From my understanding, that is NOT true. As far as I know, the U of M (under the "leadership" of outgoing president Mary Sue Coleman) has not tweaked its undergrad admissions policy to bring it into conformity with the SCOTUS decision in Gratz v. Bollinger and Prop 2.

BTW, Jennifer Gratz never entered the U of M, but went to college somewhere else. I'm pretty sure that this Kimbrough girl, instead of making a big stink about U of M's rejection, can get admitted to MSU, Eastern Michigan, Western Michigan, or Central Michigan.

45 posted on 04/18/2014 9:28:42 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

The voters threw out affirmative action and the university flouted the law anyway.


46 posted on 04/18/2014 9:32:28 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek; AJFavish; All
The voters threw out affirmative action and the university flouted the law anyway.

Yes, Mary Sue Coleman and cohorts should be held in contempt of the SCOTUS for failing to bring the admissions policy into compliance with the ruling in Gratz.

47 posted on 04/18/2014 9:47:23 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

And again.

People need to make a special point of voting for conservatives in university administration.


48 posted on 04/18/2014 9:49:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
People need to make a special point of voting for conservatives in university administration.

Folks in Michigan are rather fortunate to able to elect the regents of the various state universities, which I don't think many other states do. So yes, take advantage of that opportunity and elect more conservatives to university administration positions.

49 posted on 04/18/2014 10:41:48 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anyone want to bet that most of the unqualified students would turn out to have 4.3 speed in the 100 or have averaged 34pts and 16 rebounds in high school?


50 posted on 04/18/2014 11:36:51 AM PDT by wildbill (O)
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