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Veterans and White Supremacy
New York TImes ^ | APRIL 15, 2014 | KATHLEEN BELEW

Posted on 04/17/2014 9:34:28 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse

WHEN Frazier Glenn Miller shot and killed three people in Overland Park, Kan., on Sunday, he did so as a soldier of the white power movement: a groundswell that united Klansmen, neo-Nazis and other fringe elements after the Vietnam War, crested with the bombing of the Oklahoma City federal building in 1995, and remains a diminished but potent threat today.

Mr. Miller, the 73-year-old man charged in the killings, had been outspoken about his hatred of Jews, blacks, Communists and immigrants, but it would be a mistake to dismiss him as a crazed outlier. The shootings were consistent with his three decades of participation in organized hate groups. His violence was framed by a clear worldview. Continue reading the main story Related in Opinion

Room for Debate: Is the Threat From Hate Groups Overlooked?AUG. 12, 2012

You can’t predict whether any one person will commit violence, but it would be hard to think of someone more befitting of law enforcement scrutiny than Mr. Miller (who also goes by the name Frazier Glenn Cross). I’ve been studying the white radical right since 2006. In my review of tens of thousands of pages of once classified federal records, as well as newly available archives of Klan and neo-Nazi publications, Mr. Miller appears as a central figure of the white power movement.

The number of Vietnam veterans in that movement was small — a tiny proportion of those who served — but Vietnam veterans forged the first links between Klansmen and Nazis since World War II.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antimilitaryspew; idiotlibprofs; requiresaction
I post this spew merely as informational . Vietnam Veterans need to really look at what is being written here . Plus there's a book coming .
1 posted on 04/17/2014 9:34:28 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

Do they really want millions of people riled up? To what end? Did they learn nothing in Vietnam, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan and the rest? Do they really think they can take on hundreds of millions of armed and determined people? Seriously? How?


2 posted on 04/17/2014 9:37:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: LeoWindhorse

This looks like it could have been copied right off the SPLC website.


3 posted on 04/17/2014 9:39:13 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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they’re doing this because they saw the influence veterans had during the memorial shutdowns, and they want to smear them a little bit before the midterms, in order to tame their influence a bit.


4 posted on 04/17/2014 9:43:18 PM PDT by willywill
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To: LeoWindhorse

Those of us who are veterans of about 1965 to 1980 are used to this, we have always been psychotic scum to Hollywood and the media.

It may shock the “Thank you for your Service” generation of veterans of recent years, but really, this is just a return to normal for the American media.


5 posted on 04/17/2014 9:45:02 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Well expect a “Media False Flag” next time some tragedy like this happens again....

“Media False Flag” = Immediately Blaming the Constitution loving freedom minded conservative ideology for the actions of a socialist monster.


6 posted on 04/17/2014 9:45:31 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG
Exactly right. They build lies atop of lies.

I’ve been studying the white radical right since 2006...

This guy is a conservative-hating Democrat and they're trying to make him into a member of the Tea-Party!

7 posted on 04/17/2014 9:53:06 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: ansel12

Very true..


8 posted on 04/17/2014 9:56:11 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

be riled up....it is a good thing , at this point

do not rely on continuous corrupted elections to dig us out of this hole . It will take something different .


9 posted on 04/17/2014 10:17:32 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

When the shooting happened on Sunday and as I started hearing the news reports in my mind I was thinking that someone put this man up to it. I know that sounds weird but as the week started going by and more reports were coming out like that the killer was refusing to talk made me suspect. If this man is a self confessed non white hater which he is by all accounts why would he not want to talk about it and declare what he did.

Then yesterday I hear that Holder was at the ceremony for the THREE victims killed while more than that were killed in Chicago over the weekend. Now the SPLC is coming out with their white killer right wing numbers and now this article.
It is almost as if the whole thing was made to order call me crazy.


10 posted on 04/17/2014 10:55:05 PM PDT by funfan
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To: LeoWindhorse

1. Most corrupt President in history has turned every Federal agency into an army to oppress political opponents.
2 Federal agencies buying billions of bullets.
3 FBI in South Carolina visiting gun shops asking about anyone who complains of “big government”.
4. Media and Democrat drumbeat that conservatives, Republicans, and Tea Party are violent racists.
5. Nevada protest.

Going to be an interesting election year.


11 posted on 04/17/2014 11:48:29 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: ansel12

When I was discharged from the Air Force after 8+ years in 1976, I was shipped back from England (after having a 3 month TDY to Iceland right up until 3 days before I shipped back to the states) to McGuire AFB, NJ for discharge. They put my wife, son and I in a family transit unit as I ‘processed out’.

One thing that clearly hit me was when I took some of the trash we’d accumulated out back to the dumpsters. There they were, two dumpsters FULL of all manner of military uniforms. Later as I finished processing, it appeared that none of the people that I could see went back home in their uniforms, nor wanted to.

In that era, and most of the decade before it, the first thing that someone in the military did when they got back to the world was to get out of uniform, because they didn’t like the treatment they got - at least from my perspective and from what I could see..

It didn’t take me long to get back up to the room and bring my duffle bag back down and throw it in, too. I left just like I came, in civvies.


12 posted on 04/18/2014 3:38:23 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Any old lies will do at the NYTs. Reading Vox’s latest thread at his blog one of the comments hit the nail squarely, they aim to RULE us not govern us. And they view white men as the largest most obstinate nail in the board.


13 posted on 04/18/2014 3:58:48 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: stormhill

It took me less than thirty seconds to discover this guy was a big time DemoncRat. Yet these “journalists” persist in making him out to be “right wing”. Just another dat for the Fascist Media.


14 posted on 04/18/2014 4:13:12 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Did this turd mention all the Black panthers who served, or the latino and black gang members who are in the military now?
Sorry, I forgot, only whites can be racists


15 posted on 04/18/2014 4:26:07 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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The ‘old grey lady’ has gone senile.


16 posted on 04/18/2014 4:57:55 AM PDT by firebasecody (Orthodoxy, proclaiming the Truth since AD 33)
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Old Gray lady of the night. Sleeping with any lefty for the right price.


17 posted on 04/18/2014 5:01:06 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: LeoWindhorse

STOLEN VALOR was more than just a book. It was reality.


18 posted on 04/18/2014 5:04:01 AM PDT by donozark (The voices inside my head may not be real, but they have some good ideas!)
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To: ansel12

A couple of years ago I bought my first Vietnam veteran cap & walked into a Whole Foods store hoping that some greyheaded ponytail of either sex would call me a babykiller. Got some looks which I answered with a big grin but the checkout girl just smiled & said “Oh - you get military discount”.

If today’s society turns against our Iraq/Afghanistan veterans, it will be the same antiwar crowd, now in the WH, media, & academia, that causes it to happen.

Jane Fonda is alive & wealthy - no justice.


19 posted on 04/18/2014 5:52:00 AM PDT by elcid1970
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To: LeoWindhorse

Hate groups. You mean like SEIU, ACORN, SPLC, Rainbow Push Coalition, NAACP?


20 posted on 04/18/2014 8:20:50 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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