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Does Traditional College Debate Reinforce White Privilege?
The Atlantic ^ | 4/16/14

Posted on 04/18/2014 3:33:09 AM PDT by Altura Ct.

It used to be that if you went to a college-level debate tournament, the students you’d see would be bookish future lawyers from elite universities, most of them white. In matching navy blazers, they’d recite academic arguments for and against various government policies. It was tame, predictable, and, frankly, boring.

No more.

These days, an increasingly diverse group of participants has transformed debate competitions, mounting challenges to traditional form and content by incorporating personal experience, performance, and radical politics. These “alternative-style” debaters have achieved success, too, taking top honors at national collegiate tournaments over the past few years.

But this transformation has also sparked a difficult, often painful controversy for a community that prides itself on handling volatile topics.

On March 24, 2014 at the Cross Examination Debate Association (CEDA) Championships at Indiana University, two Towson University students, Ameena Ruffin and Korey Johnson, became the first African-American women to win a national college debate tournament, for which the resolution asked whether the U.S. president’s war powers should be restricted. Rather than address the resolution straight on, Ruffin and Johnson, along with other teams of African-Americans, attacked its premise. The more pressing issue, they argued, is how the U.S. government is at war with poor black communities.

In the final round, Ruffin and Johnson squared off against Rashid Campbell and George Lee from the University of Oklahoma, two highly accomplished African-American debaters with distinctive dreadlocks and dashikis. Over four hours, the two teams engaged in a heated discussion of concepts like “nigga authenticity” and performed hip-hop and spoken-word poetry in the traditional timed format. At one point during Lee’s rebuttal, the clock ran out but he refused to yield the floor. “Fuck the time!” he yelled...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Indiana; US: Maryland; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: blackkk; demagogicparty; demagogues; indiana; maryland; oklahoma; quotas; racenorming; redistribution; reparations; towsonuniversity
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To: Altura Ct.

It should be clear that in this context “white” is a proxy for conservative Judeo-Christian values (or what is left of them), and “not white” or “of color” is a proxy for socialist. Moreover, the issue is to purge their society of everything connected with this “white” with the assumption that what remains will be ideologically harmonious.

To the extent that this is being advocated by people who are themselves Caucasian, they are of the mindset that they have made it clear they repudiate conservative Judeo-Christian values, maybe even to the extent they participate in public displays of repudiation by protesting what they call “white privilege.”

Liberal self-loathing has driven them all mad.


21 posted on 04/18/2014 5:07:32 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Altura Ct.

The irrefutable rebuttal is that black subcultures are poor by choice.

Were the members of the subculture, especially the urban subcultures, to decide they wanted a different life, all they have to do is to just make the change. They are free to do so.


22 posted on 04/18/2014 5:07:33 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: BwanaNdege

That would have troubled me too. Giving an account of the pro’s and con’s of an issue is not the same as being forced into being devil’s advocate.


23 posted on 04/18/2014 5:09:28 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
“...the resolution asked whether the U.S. president’s war powers should be restricted. Rather than address the resolution straight on, Ruffin and Johnson, along with other teams of African-Americans, attacked its premise. The more pressing issue, they argued, is how the U.S. government is at war with poor black communities.”

They were too uneducated to know a thing about presidential war powers. That is the simple unescapable fact. But they DO know all about the neverending racial grievances prompted by Sharpton & Jackson LLC. So that's what they screamed about. Indiana University is dumbing itself down by encouraging this.

24 posted on 04/18/2014 5:15:17 AM PDT by montag813
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To: sphinx

Fear of the race card, aka Black Privilege?


25 posted on 04/18/2014 5:22:14 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Altura Ct.
A few years back I watched a NY state History Day skit competition. The students were given a very broad topic so you could approach it in the way you wished. A group of middle school students did an awesome job explaining the monetary system in an 18th judicial setting. I stayed and watched all of the groups because I was what they deemed “qualified” to be a judge and thought of maybe being on the panel the following year. No way! A group of Muslim students did a presentation comparing the way Muslims were treated in the U.S. after 9/11 to Jews being held in Auschwitz (complete with barb wire and guards with guns) and they were
awarded runner up unanimously, and the winners were a presentation on the Stonewall “uprising€ acted out as if gays were on the verge of being exterminated. I was appalled! The historical papers category had papers mostly written by cheating parents that all had huge liberal bias and the winners in the display category would have needed to work at Apple to have made what they did. No honesty or integrity! I was out! I even saw some very good conservative displays and papers being looked over and quickly set aside. The winners strayed wayyyy off even a broad topic, and sources weren't checked, which was suppose to be a big part of the scoring.
26 posted on 04/18/2014 5:26:48 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: Altura Ct.

“At one point during Lee’s rebuttal, the clock ran out but he refused to yield the floor. “Fuck the time!” he yelled”

THAT tells you everything you need to know about where our ‘culture’ is going.

It is apparent in all and everything.


27 posted on 04/18/2014 5:27:14 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: MacMattico
18th century!
28 posted on 04/18/2014 5:27:49 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: Altura Ct.

“White privilege” - The “privilege” to realize early on that working class whites have to work twice as hard as everyone else due to self hating whites and political correctness.


29 posted on 04/18/2014 5:27:59 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: Altura Ct.

“Over four hours, the two teams engaged in a heated discussion of concepts like “nigga authenticity” and performed hip-hop and spoken-word poetry in the traditional timed format.”

Swami says: I see in your future EBT cards and section 8 housing. Here’s your prize, debaters: One case of MD 20-20.


30 posted on 04/18/2014 5:44:13 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Altura Ct.
Is it racist to possess a high IQ?
31 posted on 04/18/2014 5:45:43 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The best way to control opposition is to lead it ourselves." -- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin)
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To: sphinx

I imagine their opponents spent the time trying to bring the debate back to the topic at hand....

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I doubt it, considering that one of the Oklahoma “debaters” yelled the obscenity when informed that his time was up.

This is just so absurd that I actually went back to check the source given here to make sure this was not from the “Onion”.


32 posted on 04/18/2014 5:45:44 AM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: Altura Ct.
Reject the writer's ridiculous premise.

There is no such a thing as 'white privilege'. Its a racist fabrication.

33 posted on 04/18/2014 5:47:03 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: anton

These new debaters are experiencing the end point of the usefulness of their debating “skills,” while white students go on to use traditional skills in the courtroom and the boardroom, neither venue of which tolerates such self-indulgent nonsense.

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Perhaps not in the courtroom of today, but I can see it coming.


34 posted on 04/18/2014 5:48:07 AM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: Altura Ct.

Why have a “traditional” debate when “diverse” groups can simply mug their opponents and call it social justice?


35 posted on 04/18/2014 6:03:15 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Altura Ct.

There is no such thing as “white privilege.”


36 posted on 04/18/2014 6:04:46 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Altura Ct.

“Over four hours, the two teams engaged in a heated discussion of concepts like “nigga authenticity” and performed hip-hop -——————”

And this is where I stopped reading.

Academics can’t get much lower than this.

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37 posted on 04/18/2014 6:19:37 AM PDT by Mears
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To: IronJack

“White privilege” is a self-loathing de facto admission by non-whites that Western Civilization with its Judeo-Christian roots is superior to the rest of the world’s civilization. It certainly is in decline, but nothing else can hold a candle to it.


38 posted on 04/18/2014 6:22:35 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: IronJack

That can be empirically proven by those who have a choice as to what “race” they identify as.

It would be obvious that anyone given the choice would choose to identify with the “race” with the most privilege.

When you look at everyone that tries to claim some “minority” status, you see that the privilege enforced in our current society is not in being “white”.


39 posted on 04/18/2014 6:25:48 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Altura Ct.
The more pressing issue, they argued, is how the U.S. government is at war with poor black communities.

Even with a college education the "authentic niggas" are oblivious to the fact that DEMOCRATS run the governments that are home to most all the poor black communities in this country.

They obviously agree with Al Sharpton about the current bi-racial, president's lack of black authenticity!

40 posted on 04/18/2014 6:31:55 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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