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At Least 13 Sherpas Dead as Avalanche Sweeps Mount Everest
NBC News ^ | 4/18/14 | NBC News

Posted on 04/18/2014 4:37:13 AM PDT by jimbo123

An avalanche swept down a slope of Mount Everest on Friday along a route used to ascend the world's highest peak, killing at least 13 people in the mountain's deadliest disaster.

NBC News confirmed that all of the dead were Sherpa guides.

The guides had gone early in the morning to fix the ropes for hundreds of climbers when the avalanche hit them just below Camp 2 around 6:30 a.m. local time, Nepal Tourism Ministry official Krishna Lamsal told The Associated Press.

Tilak Ram Pandey, an official at the ministry's mountaineering department, later told Reuters that some other people were thought to be missing.

Hundreds of climbers, their guides and support guides had gathered at the base camp, gearing up for their final attempt to scale the 29,035-foot peak early next month when weather conditions get favorable. They have been setting up their camps at higher altitudes and guides fixing routes and ropes on the slopes ahead of the final ascend to the summit in May.

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1 posted on 04/18/2014 4:37:13 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Who would go to the expense and risk death to climb the World’s Highest Garbage Dump?


2 posted on 04/18/2014 4:46:18 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: jimbo123

Yikes. RIP.


3 posted on 04/18/2014 4:50:19 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: jimbo123
fix the ropes for hundreds of climbers

Everest is nothing more than an expensive, exotic destination vacation spot for narcissistic rich people

4 posted on 04/18/2014 4:52:08 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: Hot Tabasco

It’s become that. And if you DO climb it, who cares about your bragging? It’s vain.


5 posted on 04/18/2014 4:55:06 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: txrefugee

From the article, I would say hundreds of people, just this week.


6 posted on 04/18/2014 4:55:16 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Entropy is high. Wear a hat! And carry an umbrella.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I agree, I don’t get it, why would anyone care to do this climb?


7 posted on 04/18/2014 4:55:42 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

If you do a google search you’ll find all kinds of outfitters now doing hikes up Everest. I think they start at about $30,000 per person........


8 posted on 04/18/2014 4:59:34 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: yldstrk

Brag point, or it’s supposed to be a self confidence builder.

Trouble is, it will spiritually go over like a lead balloon if it isn’t for the sake of God.

People want to brag they got to the tip of Mt. Everest, and yet forget that they get on an escalator to heaven when they fall on their knees. Because God gets the glory and that becomes a buzzkill to pride.


9 posted on 04/18/2014 4:59:39 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

My dad flew over from India and back several times in a C-46...


10 posted on 04/18/2014 5:07:38 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Fine... why did he do that? Sounds like some sort of defense service. Which is typically a godly thing to be in.


11 posted on 04/18/2014 5:11:45 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: jimbo123

It may be expensive, and many may do it for vain glory but it’s still quite an accomplishment. No one gets a ride up to the summit, you have to walk/hike/climb those 29,000 feet. Sure, it’s not quite the accomplishment that Hillary and Nordeg did because there have been trails made since the first time. But it is a great accomplishment. You have to be in superior shape to do this.


12 posted on 04/18/2014 5:13:33 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

There is no problem with vain glory.

Oil of Olay makes millions by selling vain glory


13 posted on 04/18/2014 5:16:50 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: yldstrk
I agree, I don’t get it, why would anyone care to do this climb?

Didn't someone say "Because it's there.?"

14 posted on 04/18/2014 5:25:12 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

He was a pilot in the Army Air Force in the China-Burma-India Campaign of WW II. After the fall of the Burma Road to the Japanese Army, the US supplied Nationalist Chinese and Brit troops fighting in China “over the Hump” from India.


15 posted on 04/18/2014 5:35:41 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: jimbo123

Into Thin Air is being made into a movie for release in 2015.


16 posted on 04/18/2014 5:35:41 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: jimbo123
The guides had gone early in the morning to fix the ropes for hundreds of climbers...

So on any given day sherpas herd hundreds of extreme tourists up Everest?

That ain't the same thing as what Sir Edmund Hillary did, but I'm sure they think it is.

17 posted on 04/18/2014 5:36:54 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The best way to control opposition is to lead it ourselves." -- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin)
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To: yldstrk
>>>I agree, I don’t get it, why would anyone care to do this climb?

You must not understand the human spirit...the sense of adventure.

I am positive there were people on the docks in 1492 saying: "I don't get it...why would anyone care to sail THAT journey"...and an equal number of their counterparts in the 1600's as they waived goodbye to their loved ones.

18 posted on 04/18/2014 5:41:06 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
For some reason I am fascinated by mountain climbing and have read every book I can get my hands on about climbing adventures.

Would never be able to do it. Even if a Sherpa carried me the whole way on his back. (some people have summited that way)

Worst part: the stricken and helpless are often left for dead.

19 posted on 04/18/2014 5:44:42 AM PDT by LoveUSA (God employs Man's strength; Satan exploits Man's weakness.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

God bless the memory.


20 posted on 04/18/2014 5:45:59 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: GSWarrior

It’s already been done. See IMDB.

To those people questioning why anyone would try to summit Everest, from what I’ve gathered, it’s a test of personal limits. You might as well ask why anyone would run a marathon or try to shoot par. There’s no LOGICAL reason for it, but that doesn’t diminish the motive. And I’m glad there are those men — and women — who challenge ease and demand to know their own potential.


21 posted on 04/18/2014 5:52:41 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: NELSON111

I suppose, different strokes for different folks.


22 posted on 04/18/2014 5:56:10 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: LoveUSA
Worst part: the stricken and helpless are often left for dead.

Generally speaking, the conditions on the summit push are so close to the edge of survival that it is not generally possible to launch rescue operations.

Also, people who have spent all that time and money to get to the summit ridge aren't anxious to abandon all that to help somebody in trouble. :)

23 posted on 04/18/2014 6:28:39 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: LoveUSA

There’s over 200 bodies still up in the “Death Zone”. Some are still relatively well preserved.

That alone would creep me out enough to not even want to try.


24 posted on 04/18/2014 6:30:41 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Hot Tabasco

I am not sure what the price is now. However, about ten years ago I know a guy who paid $65K. That was the going rate back then.


25 posted on 04/18/2014 6:38:31 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: jimbo123
Does anybody know that there are more than 78,000 people signed up for a one way journey to Mars?. These people have signed up, knowing that if they are selected, they will never see Earth again and will be responsible for establishing a permanent colony on a hostile, barren planet. Yet they have signed up nevertheless out of a spirit of adventure.
26 posted on 04/18/2014 6:38:55 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: LoveUSA
"Even if a Sherpa carried me the whole way on his back. (some people have summited that way)"

Okay, I'll make an exception and say those people are scumbags. And kudos to the sherpas who carried them and all sherpas in general. I've trained with Nepal Ghurkas and they were some tough guys. Made out of the same mold as these sherpas are I'm sure.
27 posted on 04/18/2014 6:40:05 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

The other major accomplishment was I believe Hillary and Nordeg did it without bottled O2.


28 posted on 04/18/2014 6:40:37 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: jimbo123

!


29 posted on 04/18/2014 6:41:00 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun. Cattlegate..0'Caligula / 0'Reid? ;-)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The CBI, according to several men I’ve met from that era, was the “Bump on the Butt” of the Allied war effort. But it did pin down over a million Japanese troops in China that could have been thrown against the American island hopping campaign...


30 posted on 04/18/2014 6:41:51 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: LoveUSA
" Even if a Sherpa carried me the whole way on his back. (some people have summited that way)"

I just realized, if the people that went up on a Sherpa's back are disabled and can't do it, those people are not scumbags. Only those able bodied ones that may have done this.
31 posted on 04/18/2014 6:42:50 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: woodbutcher1963
"The other major accomplishment was I believe Hillary and Nordeg did it without bottled O2."

I saw a documentary on them years ago and I distinctly remember seeing members of the team with oxygen masks. Now when Hillary and Nordeg actually summited the peak I don't remember if they had oxygen or not. But I know the team did have oxygen with them and used it.
32 posted on 04/18/2014 6:45:18 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Sherman Logan

Plus helicopters can not fly above, I believe, Camp II which is about 24m’. Even there it is apparently not enough air to get much of any lift on the rotors. They tend to take off and almost fall down hill.


33 posted on 04/18/2014 6:45:25 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: luvbach1

“I agree, I don’t get it, why would anyone care to do this climb?”

If you’ve ever been at a point in your life at which you feel lost and demoralized, based on issues that are out of your control, and you feel that you need to do something, anything, to put a punctuate mark in your life from which you can move on and reconsider, you can understand doing something like this.

I’m not saying that’s why most do it, but there is something about the enormity of the task, and that danger, that strips away the everyday concerns that are clouding your ability to see what’s important and what the real value of your life is. It’s good sometimes to be reminded just how small you are, and therefore how small some of the concerns you have are.

On the other hand, if you have a family and people who you are responsible for, it’s a bit irresponsible to do something like this just for an ‘adventure’.


34 posted on 04/18/2014 6:55:54 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

The first team to summit without oxygen was Meissner and Habeler in 1978.


35 posted on 04/18/2014 6:56:40 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

I strongly suspect a large percentage of those who do this are guys with too much money looking for bragging rights.

A more extreme version is climbing the highest point on each continent.

Everest is not, BTW, a particularly difficult climb technically. There are much harder ones. The difficulties of Everest mostly involve weather and altitude, which are quite sufficient to make it sufficiently dangerous for almost anybody.


36 posted on 04/18/2014 7:00:09 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

I agree. I was just commenting about the more generic concept of feeling desperate in life and feeling like you need to do something desperate.

I’m not a technical climber, but I’ve heard what you said about Everest not being a technically difficult climb. Sounds like one of the biggest determinants of whether you make it or not is your personal physiology/biology and ability to acclimate to high altitude/low oxygen. Doesn’t matter if you are incredibly strong and fit. If you can’t acclimate, you can’t finish this climb.


37 posted on 04/18/2014 7:09:30 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: txrefugee
Who would go to the expense and risk death to climb the World’s Highest Garbage Dump?

Who would go to the expense and risk death to explore the New World, go to the moon or Mars, or find the cure for a deadly disease?

Who benefits when you stay home and pound asinine comments on a keyboard?

38 posted on 04/18/2014 7:14:58 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

I’m sure there are some in the group you describe.

I’ve been on the fringes of the climbing world for some decades, and the general consensus of guides and other high-altitude climbers I’ve talked to or read on discussion boards is that “climbing” Everest attracts a high proportion of rich *ssholes relative to other high mountains.

For some of them their accomplishment is more like being towed up the mountain than climbing it.

As this episode shows, the danger is always there even for them.

Cost varies from $30k to $100k.

http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/climbing/mountaineering/everest-2013/What-Does-it-Cost-to-Climb-Everest.html


39 posted on 04/18/2014 7:20:07 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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http://www.alanarnette.com/blog/2014/04/17/everest-2014-avalanche-near-camp-1-sherpa-deaths/

He has a very good realtime blog about the yearly climb.


40 posted on 04/18/2014 7:20:21 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKg9pMlsUXo

Video of avalanche from Camp 1


41 posted on 04/18/2014 7:27:40 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: woodbutcher1963

42 posted on 04/18/2014 7:27:52 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Hot Tabasco

The idea of going where thousands have been before, where the oxygen is so low that you need supplements just to say awake, let alone alive, is the definition of narcissism.


43 posted on 04/18/2014 8:18:19 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: jimbo123

How sad. Those Sherpas have families. So many affected by this loss.


44 posted on 04/18/2014 8:23:35 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Good analysis in your post #34.


45 posted on 04/18/2014 8:42:19 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished)
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To: jimbo123

Prayers for all of them and their loved ones.

Very sad.


46 posted on 04/18/2014 8:52:50 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless America)
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To: NautiNurse

Well, it’s not as if Everest hasn’t been scaled before.


47 posted on 04/18/2014 9:00:12 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: jimbo123; Hot Tabasco; txrefugee; HiTech RedNeck; yldstrk

Got notice that some of our Wounded Warriors are there. Wife of one has not heard from him yet.


48 posted on 04/18/2014 12:50:33 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

http://www.alanarnette.com/blog/everest/2014-coverage/

Teams involved: Alpine Ascent, Summit Nepal, Himalayan Guides, Beuyl, and 5 from Shangr-la Shangri-la Nepal Trek

Over 100 Sherpas and climbers trapped above avalanche

All climbing stopped on Everest from Nepal side for now.

Route needs to be fixed for stranded Sherpa and climbers to return to EBC


49 posted on 04/18/2014 1:07:22 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Jon Krakauer is a punk who’s book is nothing more than revisionist history to cover his lack of effort on that day. I know, I was there.

The obtuseness of many here making comments about that which they can’t possibly have any idea about, astounds. True for some it’s all about bagging an 8000 meter peak but for most its so much more. Just because One can’t comprehend it doesn’t make it less of an accomplishment or life changing experience for another.

For me it’s a wholly spiritual experience. My first Himalayan summit was at 23,500 in the shadow of Everest. I fell to my knees, prayed and wept a little. Now and again I get a little teary eyed but that occasion and the premature death of my closest friend from childhood are the only times I wept in 40+ years.

Dead bodies on a climb? Yes, they’re there. I’ve seen many. On most the bones are exposed and bleached a result of the ‘sand blasting’ effects of snow. It’s surreal as you move past them, continuing on where they have perished. You say a prayer and quickly go back to concentrating on the task at hand.

High altitude climbing is the ultimate test of endurance. One must endure pain as well as mental and physiological stress beyond imagination. If you’re happy sitting on a couch eating Bonbons that’s fine by me just keep your comments to yourselves if you can’t wrap your limited minds around a subject. Other’s of us will do the living for you.


50 posted on 04/18/2014 1:16:00 PM PDT by IBIAFR
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