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Breaking Scandal: BLM Rounding Up Wild Horses, Sending To Slaugherhouse…In Canada
Western Journalism ^ | April 18, 2014

Posted on 04/18/2014 1:26:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

The Bureau of Land Management is clearly having an image problem. As the outrage over its intimidating show of force during last week’s showdown at the Bundy Ranch in Nevada proved, the federal agency is now caught up in a controversy originating in Wyoming.

According to recent reports, agents herded a large group of wild horses in the state before ceding control of the majestic animals to state authorities. At that point, Wyoming officials sold them off to a slaughterhouse in Canada.

Obviously, this development outraged countless advocates already incensed by accusations that BLM officers gunned down multiple cows at the Bundy Ranch.

Paula Todd King, a wild horse advocate with Colorado’s Cloud Foundation, said it would have taken “very little to do this in a more effective way so that horses are not just sent off to slaughter indiscriminately.”

Though wild horses, which have roamed throughout the American West for hundreds of years, are protected by federal law, the BLM contends these animals do not qualify for such protection. Instead, agency spokesperson Sarah Beckwith contends they are strays descended from rodeo horses from four decades ago.

King, however, wondered how such a distinction is made.

“How long does a horse have to live wild and free before it’s considered wild?” she asked.

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TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Nevada; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: blm; bundycattle; bundyranch; canada; horses; nevada; scandals; wildhorses; wyoming

1 posted on 04/18/2014 1:26:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

I’ve had months of months of hearing about this from my sister. There are lots of other things that ought to break the BLM, and even break them harder even with the DC libs doubling down on taking their back.


2 posted on 04/18/2014 1:29:25 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Jim Robinson

Things are getting crazy. These BLM guys are just practicing. Outraging and purposely trying to upset the locals. Trying to show folks who’s boss.


3 posted on 04/18/2014 1:29:32 PM PDT by albie
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To: Olog-hai

That would be “lots of other things” with a cumulative effect along with this subject matter. The desert tortoise double-dealing included.


4 posted on 04/18/2014 1:30:41 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Jim Robinson
Sarah Beckwith contends they are strays descended from rodeo horses from four decades ago.

So more is known about the origins of specific wild horses than.. well.

Hmmm.

5 posted on 04/18/2014 1:32:04 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Jim Robinson

These are the kind of people that make government something freedom-loving people want to overthrow more than anything else.


6 posted on 04/18/2014 1:35:34 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Urban-know-it-alls !


7 posted on 04/18/2014 1:36:54 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: Jim Robinson

Who gets the money from their sale? Wyoming officials?


8 posted on 04/18/2014 1:40:53 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Jim Robinson

How did this continent survive before the Spaniards brought horses to it? Can we survive without them, or with only the number that the wild range acreage available can support? And what will have to give way, so that every wild horse born will be able to live to a ripe, old horse age? Judging by my experience with farm work horses some 50 to 60 years ago, that may be about 30 years. Members of the Wild Horse Old-timers Association (WHOA) may be able to provide a more accurate estimate.


9 posted on 04/18/2014 1:42:11 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: Jim Robinson
I own three horses, including a BLM mustang pony. However, I would much rather see feral horses shot or shipped to Canada for slaughter - since we don't seem to be able to open a slaughterhouse for horses in the USA - than see them competing with cattle and sheep for grazing. At a guess, I'd say about 75% of the horse people I know also support slaughtering horses for food.

My little BLM guy, who is likely to live out his days being ridden 5-6 times a year whether he needs it or not. The white mark on his neck is the freeze brand. He gets scared riding in an arena, but is quite happy to go out on a trail with the big horses:


10 posted on 04/18/2014 1:47:27 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Another agency gone rogue!


11 posted on 04/18/2014 1:58:37 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Jim Robinson

““How long does a horse have to live wild and free before it’s considered wild?” she asked.”

Yes, ‘n’ how many years can some horses exist
Before they’re allowed to be free?

Yes, ‘n’ how many deaths will it take till we know
That too many horses have died?

The answer, my friend, is blowin’ in the wind,
The answer is blowin’ in the wind.

(That was a well-phrased question — profound even. I thought it deserved a little recognition; so I stole some lines, and modified them a bit.)


12 posted on 04/18/2014 2:02:30 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Jim Robinson

***Though wild horses, which have roamed throughout the American West for hundreds of years, ***

Feral horses. Their ancestors, brought in by the Spanish escaped when the Pueblos revolted in 1680.


13 posted on 04/18/2014 2:02:54 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Mr Rogers
At a guess, I'd say about 75% of the horse people I know also support slaughtering horses for food.

Happy that you have a BLM mustang. Hope your friends and neighbors do too. Wish I could have one, but I live in an apartment where cats are barely tolerated.

I belong to and support wild horse preservation efforts. This organization does manage to protect at least some of these lovely and endangered animals: http://wildhorsepreservation.org

14 posted on 04/18/2014 2:04:58 PM PDT by Veto! (OpInions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Mr Rogers

Looks to me like the state governments and or the people within the state have the constitutional right to make these decisions, not the feds. The land needs to be returned to the states and the BLM dissolved.


15 posted on 04/18/2014 2:05:32 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

16 posted on 04/18/2014 2:06:35 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Are the horses NOT qualified because they didn’t or couldn’t fill out the forms properly?
With the various Fed agencies, filling out the form seems to be of critical important.
Just curious.


17 posted on 04/18/2014 2:06:46 PM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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To: Jim Robinson
... agency spokesperson Sarah Beckwith contends they are strays descended from rodeo horses from four decades ago.

Illegal alien horses???

18 posted on 04/18/2014 2:16:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: TigersEye
Illegal alien horses???

Doing the jobs American horses won't do.

19 posted on 04/18/2014 2:19:25 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: albie
Things are getting crazy. These BLM guys are just practicing. Outraging and purposely trying to upset the locals. Trying to show folks who’s boss.

Here is a video of the BLM guys "kicking the cat" (wild mustangs/little dinosaurs) after failing at the Bundy Ranch.

FedEx - Shipping in Cavemen times

20 posted on 04/18/2014 2:19:35 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: GreenHornet

Apparently horses have birth certificates.


21 posted on 04/18/2014 2:25:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m certain PETA’s springing into action on this *sarc*


22 posted on 04/18/2014 2:31:57 PM PDT by Kevin in California
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To: humblegunner
strays descended from rodeo horses from four decades ago

Does this mean they have done MtDNA studies on them?

23 posted on 04/18/2014 2:41:54 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: Jim Robinson
"Sarah Beckwith contends they are strays descended from rodeo horses from four decades ago. "

Rodeo horses must die, die, die - Barack Obama

24 posted on 04/18/2014 2:42:49 PM PDT by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’d like for the states to take possession of all BLM/USFS/USPS land, but I can’t imagine either of my REPUBLICAN senators - John McCain and Jeff McFlake - supporting such a move. Goodness knows, they don’t give a rat’s rear for ANY of my opinions...

However, when wild horses and cattle are competing for the same forage, I come down on the side of the cattle.

I like my little BLM mustang, but he has gone thru at least 6 owners before me. His previous owner reached the point of either shipping him off to auction (probably for slaughter in Mexico, which is an obscene option) or giving him away. After several months of offering him for free to anyone, I took him.

He’s a very sensible little fellow on the trail. A horse who has lived wild knows that running in panic gets you killed, so he watches his footing. He stays within sight of the other two horses and takes care of himself (and thus his rider). If I was in the market for another horse, I’d consider a mustang in a heartbeat, but 3 horses combined with the price of hay in southern Arizona has me maxed out. That is the problem - feral horses breed a lot more than the land can support, so either someone removes them or they destroy the land and then starve. The ‘humane’ folks generally won’t back their good feelings up with money, hay, etc. With hay here running $17/100 lb bale, there aren’t many takers for horses.


25 posted on 04/18/2014 2:43:54 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: Jim Robinson; Lady Jag; hondact200; BobL; MeshugeMikey; Texas Fossil; B4Ranch; BuckeyeTexan; All

Where is PETA?
Where is the Humane Society?
Where is the Sierra Club?
Where is the Society for the protection of cruelty to animals?
Where is Hoolywod who have made millions from the movies they have made about Wild Horses?
Where are the people that hug horses when not hugging trees?

When Feudal Lord Reid of the US Bureau of Feudal Land Management tried to compensate for his senility and impotence by killing the last private herd of cattle in Clark County, Nevada all the doormat Republican Leadership in Congress did was their usual nothing.

Now feudal Lord Reid has invaded Canada to kill off the last of the Wild Horses, and ball once again is in the proverbial court of our sorry, cave-in, doormat Republican Leadership in Congress.

Impotent and senile Reid appears to be able to do whatever the doormat republican Leaders allow him to do.

BTW, has anyone noticed that Canada is not yet part of the good ol’ USA?

Maybe Obama includes Canada as one of his 57 States.


26 posted on 04/18/2014 2:44:43 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Do Canadians eat horsemeat?


27 posted on 04/18/2014 2:57:52 PM PDT by matthew fuller (No, I don't miss GWB- I miss Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld.)
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To: matthew fuller
Yes. The US sends 100k horses[private/public to Canada and Mexico each year for slaughter.

The States would do this as well if they owned the land.

28 posted on 04/18/2014 3:07:00 PM PDT by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: Theoria

Yes, and remember our USDA will not fund horse slaughter in America. We lose altogether. Typical.


29 posted on 04/18/2014 3:08:37 PM PDT by taterjay
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To: Mr Rogers

I don’t know your circle of horse friends or where you live, but over 75% of the horse people we know know in Oklahoma are AGAINST horse slaughter, and AGAINST opening horse slaughter houses in the U.S.A., and AGAINST horses for food.

Other than the obvious humane-related issues (e.g like eating your pet dog or cat when they pass on), sending horses to slaughter for food is nuts, as they are not raised for consumption, and can have all sorts of chemicals, antibiotics, etc. in them that are prohibited in cattle, dairy cows, poultry, swine, etc.; and wild horses can harbor diseases that are not present in normal food animals. Just unsafe as heck.

There is a horse breeding problem in the country; not a problem that will be solved by indiscriminate slaughter of these animals.

Disclaimer: we own 5 horses, and manage a horse boarding facility with over 60 board horses.


30 posted on 04/18/2014 4:00:07 PM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: albie

It must have been the Odumbo mask that gave away that these were rodeo horses.


31 posted on 04/18/2014 4:16:42 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Elsiejay

>>, so that every wild horse born will be able to live to a ripe, old horse age? <<

I presume you are talking about their off-spring being able to live to a ripe, old horse age too. Exactly where do you plan on keeping these horses because right now the West is overflowing with them! They are eating themselves out of house and home. That’s why they get rounded up and sent to the slaughter houses.

If states rights becomes and issue in the next election or even the next decade, all the now public lands will be turned over to the states that legally own it. At that time just how big of a fight do you expect there will be when county voters get to decide just how much taxes they are willing to pay to let them graze to this ripe, old horse age that you so keenly desire.

I suggest that you get the Wild Horse Old-timers Association (WHOA) to start a collection fund right now.


32 posted on 04/18/2014 4:26:42 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: LaRueLaDue

I have no objection to horses as food. I probably won’t eat my horses when they die, but neither do I see anything immoral about eating a horse.

Horses who are slaughter can be checked for diseases, just as cattle are.

There isn’t a horse breeding problem. The problem is that horses live 30 years, and the market goes up and down several times in 30 years. My mare was a well-bred Arabian. In 2001, there was an excellent market. She comes from good CMK lines. But by 2012, I could not have sold her for over $1000. Of course, 5 years from now the market might be back...it probably would already have come back, if we didn’t have an Obama market and Harry Reid as Senate Majority Leader.

Heck, a few years ago, beef cattle were being slaughtered due to drought. Now the market for cattle is great.

In any case, the feral mustangs are not being bred for ANY market. There are few natural predators, they are very fertile, and they will reproduce and destroy the range. Once you destroy a desert range, it takes a long time to come back. Therefor, I support either killing them here, or capturing them and sending them off for food. If I can eat a deer, I can eat a horse.

They are not pets.


33 posted on 04/18/2014 4:41:31 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: matthew fuller
Do Canadians eat horsemeat?

No, but I think our kitties and doggies do. At least our tropical fish have more taste than that.

34 posted on 04/18/2014 4:42:13 PM PDT by Dartman (CDN PM Stephen Harper may not be perfect, but we don't have to be ashamed or embarassed of him.)
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To: Graewoulf
yell GOLLY looky thar the good ole boy had bought hiself a RANCH!!

the worlds only Turtle Ranch it would appear!


35 posted on 04/18/2014 5:16:06 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

No wonder they couldn’t drag me away. Thanks JimRob.


36 posted on 04/18/2014 7:44:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: B4Ranch

“Exactly where do you plan on keeping these horses . . ..?

I do not plan to keep them any place. Their numbers should be tightly controlled by whatever humane means are practicable. We have gov’t regulations for limiting the numbers of wolves and other wild animals, for the convenience, safety and other human interests and needs, such as maintaining numbers of ungulate game animals for the benefit of sport and meat hunters. Very, very few of ever see a wild horse in its “wilderness” habitat, or even really want to.


37 posted on 04/18/2014 9:30:38 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: MeshugeMikey; SatinDoll; laplata; Reaganite Republican; B4Ranch; Texas Fossil; Jane Long; ...

Yup, Great Image!

The action-proven purpose of the US Obama Federal Government is to destroy all private enterprises, and then confiscate all that the all-talk-and-no-action, doormat Republicans in Congress will allow them to.

Feudal Lord Reid and his Outlaw Rustler Gang recent raid on Nevada Rancher Bundy’s Ranch have made that transparently clear, beyond a “smidgen” of doubt!

BTW, what has the US Federal Government ever confiscated, Nationalized or otherwise controlled that has ever made a profit?

BTW, BTW, how much more Permanent Debt, confiscation, Nationalization and otherwise control does the Obama Federal Government have to do to qualify the United States of America as an Official Third World Country?


38 posted on 04/18/2014 10:03:20 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Is that “Tex” Reid sitting on top of Mitch McConnell ?


39 posted on 04/18/2014 11:14:13 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Elsiejay

>>Very, very few of ever see a wild horse in its “wilderness” habitat, or even really want to.<<

Come to Nevada. We’ve got more horses than we do coyotes.


40 posted on 04/19/2014 6:06:41 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I want to point out the article is a bit of yellow journalism, taking advantage of the current "mood."

According to recent reports, agents herded a large group of wild horses in the state before ceding control of the majestic animals to state authorities. At that point, Wyoming officials sold them off to a slaughterhouse in Canada.

41 posted on 04/19/2014 6:18:58 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Yippe ty yi YEA!


42 posted on 04/19/2014 6:21:48 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Mr Rogers

Not speaking the federal government owning land in states issue, but it is hard for people (urbanized/suburbanized) to understand how big these animals get, how big their herds get since they are unchallenged for the most part.

There is only finite “food” where they live and the environment cannot support their populations. It is no different than dealing with deer, elk, moose. We have destroyed the natural order of things by killing off the natural predators, so their populations become too big for their range. They get diseased, become invasive, and can hurt people.


43 posted on 04/19/2014 6:25:05 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Graewoulf
coming soon....


44 posted on 04/19/2014 6:59:06 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Jim Robinson

a little follow-up from Fox:
The BLM bans wild horses from being sold for slaughter. Anybody who adopts a wild horse from the BLM must agree to provide it a home.

The horses in the Bighorn Basin’s sagebrush hills descended from stray rodeo horses owned by Andy Gifford, a rancher and rodeo livestock contractor, in the 1970s, BLM spokeswoman Sarah Beckwith said.

Gifford had claimed the horses as his but never rounded them up before he died in 2009. That, plus the fact that the horses never interbred with wild horses, officially classified them as strays.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/20/feds-draw-criticism-for-selling-wyoming-horses-for-slaughter/

now, I’m going to ask the obvious question - how does the BLM know these horses didn’t interbreed with ‘wild horses’?


45 posted on 04/21/2014 4:07:29 AM PDT by blueplum
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