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Russia's new culture policy a weapon against West
AFP ^ | April 18th, 2014 | Maria Antonova

Posted on 04/18/2014 1:33:04 PM PDT by Mariner

Moscow (AFP) - The Kremlin is preparing a new culture policy for Russia focusing on its distinctive civilisation and traditional values, which observers say has political ends amid Moscow's standoff with the West.

At the end of four hours of questions Thursday in his annual call-in, President Vladimir Putin waxed philosophical on what it means to be Russian.

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"Perhaps Russia will be the last keeper of European culture, Christian values and truly European civilisation," said Medinsky.
1 posted on 04/18/2014 1:33:05 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

Just as long as they let their hockey players stay in the NHL.


2 posted on 04/18/2014 1:35:38 PM PDT by henkster (I don't like bossy women telling me what words I can't use.)
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To: henkster

I don’t think they can make that kind of dough in the homeland.


3 posted on 04/18/2014 1:36:20 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Mariner

As the saying goes, nature abhors a vacuum. With the West declaring all-out war on traditional morality, it’s all too easy for the Russians to step in and pick up the mantle of the other side.


4 posted on 04/18/2014 1:38:28 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: nascarnation

One of the better outcomes of the fall of Soviet communism.


5 posted on 04/18/2014 1:40:07 PM PDT by henkster (I don't like bossy women telling me what words I can't use.)
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To: henkster

Now if those players could just pay income taxes at Putin’s rates they’d be in heaven...


6 posted on 04/18/2014 1:41:09 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Mariner
America conquered Nazism and Communism with better music.

Swing and Rock did it.

Today, American music can be used only for torture of captured terrorists.

Ruskies learned the lesson well.

7 posted on 04/18/2014 1:42:29 PM PDT by DTA
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To: Mariner

A succinct definition of conservative values. The EU is a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah.


8 posted on 04/18/2014 1:43:00 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: irishjuggler
"As the saying goes, nature abhors a vacuum. With the West declaring all-out war on traditional morality, it’s all too easy for the Russians to step in and pick up the mantle of the other side. "

I'm of the opinion, right or wrong, that this is why Russia is a rising nation and the entire West is in decline.

Putin may yet have his revenge for the fall of the Soviet Empire.

And, I don't think it's all cynical on the part of Russia. I've met a lot of Russian immigrants in CA and they are uniformly religious. And, they value and preserve their culture.

Russia is not just going to surrender 1500 years of shared cultural experience and yield to historically flawed and destructive foreign cultural influences.

Especially after 70 years in the wilderness.

9 posted on 04/18/2014 1:46:42 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Interesting commentary.

Who would have thought 30 yrs ago that most patriots would feel more affinity for the head of Russia vs POTUS Baraq?


10 posted on 04/18/2014 1:48:52 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: nascarnation

Barry has his fans too. Just check all the Russia threads.


11 posted on 04/18/2014 1:53:58 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: nascarnation
I don’t think they can make that kind of dough in the homeland."

Ever heard the term, "Chinese money" used for accounting entries that represent money changing hands within the company as opposed to real money?

"That kind of dough" ain't going to be all that much better than rubles if King Barry manages to keep this country paying through the nose for energy by finishing off the coal industry and shipping new found NG off to the poor little Europeans.

Sell the world coal if we're too stupid to use it, but keep everything else in this country and energy prices will go so low that companies will move factories back here because the higher wage costs will be more than offset by the lower energy costs.

Oddly enough, though, when we trip over a huge amount of NG here in the US, whoa, "we better ship it to Europe in order to keep Putin in line".

12 posted on 04/18/2014 1:56:52 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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I’m of the opinion, right or wrong, that this is why Russia is a rising nation
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The Russian economy now as in 1980—like the Saudi economy now and in 1980 — is entirely driven by oil. Kill the price of oil and the Russians do down.

The way Reagan defeated the Russians was to convince the Saudis in 1980 to overproduce oil and thereby drive its price down to the point where the russians could no longer pay their bills.

The saudis could do that at the time because their production costs were almost nothing and they had immense surplus capacity.

neither of those is the case anymore.


13 posted on 04/18/2014 1:58:53 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: Mariner

Traditional values like pedophilia and kiddie porn?

You go Russia


14 posted on 04/18/2014 1:59:31 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL
"Traditional values like pedophilia and kiddie porn?"

I honestly don't know if you're saying that about Russia or the West.

15 posted on 04/18/2014 2:03:24 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

It’s actual legal in Russia


16 posted on 04/18/2014 2:08:27 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: DTA

You got a point there
Russians that I know they love our rock music

They pretty cultured people


17 posted on 04/18/2014 2:12:46 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: irishjuggler

“As the saying goes, nature abhors a vacuum. With the West declaring all-out war on traditional morality, it’s all too easy for the Russians to step in and pick up the mantle of the other side.”

Quite frankly, I’m glad someone is doing it.


18 posted on 04/18/2014 2:17:09 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: nascarnation

Who would have thought 30 years ago the the leader of Russia would have more sympathy for Christianity and traditional views on life and the family than our own POTUS would?


19 posted on 04/18/2014 2:19:33 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Mariner

Not praising Putin, but he wants to industrial. Why in the world would adopt the culture of deindustrialization? The US, the EU, these are cultures of deindustrialization and dependancy.

For all that’s made of being rich in natural resources it’s by far better to be industrialized. Take for example Germany, they can buy the low margin rail cars of oil and iron ore from Russia...turn them into BMW’s and Siemens equipment to sell in Moscow at a high margin. The is why Germany will slowly align more and more with Russia, much better trade partner than any EU state.


20 posted on 04/18/2014 2:20:52 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: SevenofNine

Rock music is destructive of any society. Compared to classical and swing it is garbage; however, rap is not music and is akin to the sound manure would make if it was tortured.


21 posted on 04/18/2014 2:27:41 PM PDT by Stepan12
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To: Norm Lenhart
Barry has his fans too. Just check all the Russia threads.

Let's follow that logic: If you oppose Putin, you support Obama. Oops, no logic to be found.

22 posted on 04/18/2014 2:27:51 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Mariner

It’s easy to say what you aren’t.
It’s harder to say what you are.

My friend and I were looking through a very old copy of the boy scout manual yesterday.

A Scout is Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Courteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, and Reverent.

How many kids ever get taught even what these virtues are in public school.
The media values are upside down, everything good is bad, everything bad is good.

Oh yeah and tea party people are vicious racists for wanting smaller government.


23 posted on 04/18/2014 2:30:50 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Mariner
" Russia 'is forced to culturally protect itself' from...the depravities of Europe's contemporary culture.

"Perhaps Russia will be the last keeper of European culture, Christian values and truly European civilisation."

"Russia is not Europe DECADENT."

24 posted on 04/18/2014 2:30:55 PM PDT by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Let me follow yours.

“Vlad is Hitler because I say so”

Nope no logic to be found. Or...

“Vlad did this all by himself even though many posters have shown me otherwise so it’s ALL his doing”

Nope. Sans logic. How about...

“I like posting nonsense to get attention”.

Now there is some logic. Twisted, but then so is your whole view on this subject.


25 posted on 04/18/2014 2:34:46 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: DTA
America conquered Nazism and Communism with better music. Swing and Rock did it. Today, American music can be used only for torture of captured terrorists. Ruskies learned the lesson well.

Russians have good popular music? I thought the young people were abandoning them because they have little soft power of any kind.
26 posted on 04/18/2014 2:37:48 PM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: Norm Lenhart

More: “I support Putin, therefore I support Ahmadinejad, Castro . . . .” Nope, still no logic to be seen.


27 posted on 04/18/2014 2:38:03 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Mariner
Crimea in iambic pentameter,

The Charge of the Light Brigade: Tennyson, since the British are not European either.

28 posted on 04/18/2014 2:38:15 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: 1rudeboy

It’s the myopia and emotionalism I explained to you on the other thread. Blinds you to reality. And the fact your supporter there couldn’t even figure out we were being sarcastic pretty much proves the myopia part is contagious.


29 posted on 04/18/2014 2:40:28 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: GeronL
"It’s actual legal in Russia"

You'll have to cite a reference for that or nobody will believe it or you.

30 posted on 04/18/2014 2:42:39 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: nascarnation
Who would have thought 30 yrs ago that most patriots would feel more affinity for the head of Russia vs POTUS Baraq?

Some 42 years a young Jane Fonda like our nation's enemies better than the POTUS.


31 posted on 04/18/2014 2:43:16 PM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: Norm Lenhart

I posted a piece by the director of the Heritage Foundation that was critical of Putin a while back. Your “logic” holds that it makes me an Obama supporter. What about Heritage? More myopic emotionalism?


32 posted on 04/18/2014 2:44:32 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Mariner
Russians not only have their own "cultural code," he said, they also have a unique moral outlook
33 posted on 04/18/2014 2:45:43 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Mariner

Morality as an individual yearning for purity and salvation = Christianity.

Morality as a uniform top down law and weapon of the state = Stalinism.

Damn right Russia is not part of Europe, it seems to yearn for the paradise which is North Korea.


34 posted on 04/18/2014 2:52:58 PM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Was that filmed in Golden Gate park?


35 posted on 04/18/2014 2:53:24 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: nascarnation

No patriot with half a brain supports Putin. Anything positive you can say about Putin can also be said of Kim Jong Un and Ahmadinejad.

Obama is a liberal nitwit that is bankrupting and embarrassing the country, but he is not even in the same league of evil as Putin. If Free Republic was in Russia it would either be shut down or be forced to adhere to party line.


36 posted on 04/18/2014 2:55:32 PM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: BurningOak
"Morality as a uniform top down law and weapon of the state = Stalinism."

Would you say the same thing of Cultural and Religious Conservatives in the US?

Russia is very unlikely to use morality as a weapon of the state. It's not needed when you have the GRU.

Besides how do you make morality a weapon?

37 posted on 04/18/2014 2:57:36 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: 1rudeboy

I don’t care what the Armchair quarterbacking of Heratige or you comes up with. You are being fed complete BS from -both- sides over there and choosing to believe one based on your personal dislike of the ‘dreamy shirtless bear rider’.

Then you infest the threads spouting things you know factually nothing about based on questionable at best info from media sources you yourself condemn when it suits your argument to do so - the MSM...while taking other questionable at best info as Gospel truth...and you think people like me are the idiots.

Got it.


38 posted on 04/18/2014 3:01:05 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Norm Lenhart
How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?

Like your tag line.

Lesser evil doesn't work.

No to all tyrants.

Obama, Putin...

39 posted on 04/18/2014 3:06:20 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

Totally agree.


40 posted on 04/18/2014 3:07:07 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Norm Lenhart
I don't think you're an idiot . . . you are a hypocrite. And the ironic thing about it is that you accuse others of doing what you do yourself.

Just recently, you made a comment about being unsusceptible to propaganda, but your post contained two or three examples of the same. Just so happened that it fit your bias.

41 posted on 04/18/2014 3:08:38 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Point them out and lets discuss them. I just got done saying we are being fed crap by both sides. If that;s the case, and it is, How am I a hypocrite? I don’t believe ANYTHING coming out of there that I don’t look into to the best of my ability and or base off things I already know to be factual..

Say for instance, the State Department who have a long history with Obama of interfering with countries internal affairs when it serves no end but Obamas. Say Uganda and Honduras.

Now if you think we didn’t instigate this mess that’s fine. If you say we were blameless I do not know what to tell you.

Can I be wrong? Sure. Wouldn’t be the first time. But please don’t try and make me believe the crap like Vlad is Hitler unless you produce a few million dead bodies to back it up.

And considering all the accusations your ‘comrades’ have hurled at anyone not following your “I hate the shirtless one” rhetoric, I don’t think you are the ideal judge of anyones’ hypocrisy.

No


42 posted on 04/18/2014 3:18:08 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Norm Lenhart

43 posted on 04/18/2014 3:49:37 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: irishjuggler; Mariner

Well... the other side says there’s a “Republican War on Women”.

I say there’s a “Democrat War On Christianity” and a “Democrat War On America and American Values”.


44 posted on 04/18/2014 3:49:44 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Mariner

American conservative morality is allowing people freedom. Freedom of speech, freedom of worship, freedom to own a gun. If morality becomes you have to say what I tell you to say and you have to believe what I believe, it is now a totalitarian system.

A free nation will be moral as long as it is free without a need for a top down moral decree. For hundreds of years the US remained moral despite being a free nation. A totalitarian nation with a strictly enforced moral code will not only be not free, it will not be moral either. Look at Russia, massive alcoholism and drug abuse, rampant prostitution and one of the highest abortion rates on earth. No amount of moral decrees from the KGB spook in the Kremlin will change that.


45 posted on 04/18/2014 3:55:58 PM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: 1rudeboy

Thank you for posting that. Free Republic - where patriots get their soft core gay porn.


46 posted on 04/18/2014 3:57:09 PM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: ckilmer
This chart comparing Russia to traditional one-trick-pony petrocracies proves you wrong. BTW, in terms of real PPP GDP, add another $600 billion to a Russian numbers, and cut $100-200 billion from Norway and Saudis. It would make an idea of Russia as a 'gas station pretending to ne a country' even more ridiculous.
47 posted on 04/18/2014 4:58:40 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix

Oil and gas revenues accounted for 52% of federal (Russian) budget revenues and over 70% of total exports in 2012, according to PFC Energy.
http://www.eia.gov/countries/cab.cfm?fips=rs
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Vladimir Putin’s commitment to oil and gas as the mainstay of Russia’s progress stems from a deep and abiding conviction about its importance to the nation’s economy. Long before he came to power, he had believed that “the restructuring of the national [Russian] economy on the basis of mineral and raw material resources” was “a strategic factor of economic growth in the near term.”[1]

In an article published a year before he became president, he reiterated that Russian mineral resources would be central to the country’s economic development, security, and modernization through “at least the first half” of the 21st century.[2] In Putin’s view, the only way for Russia to achieve economic growth of 4 to 6 percent per year—the tempo he deemed minimally necessary for Russia to reduce its lag behind the developed countries—was via “extraction, processing and exploitation of mineral raw resources.” This was the key to Russia’s becoming “a great economic power,” Putin believed.[3]

For Putin, oil and gas were also paramount politically as guarantors of the security and stability of the Russian state. As he put it, “The country’s natural resource endowment is the most important economic and political factor in the development of social production.” Furthermore, the “raw material complex” was the “basis for the country’s military might” and an “essential condition” for modernization of the military-industrial complex.[4] Finally, he believed the mineral extraction sector of the economy “diminishes social tensions” by raising the “level of well-being” of the Russian population.[5]
http://www.aei.org/outlook/foreign-and-defense-policy/regional/europe/the-political-economy-of-russian-oil-and-gas/


48 posted on 04/18/2014 5:27:08 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: Norm Lenhart
Say for instance, the State Department who have a long history with Obama of interfering with countries internal affairs when it serves no end but Obamas. Say Uganda and Honduras. Now if you think we didn’t instigate this mess that’s fine. If you say we were blameless I do not know what to tell you.

I agree, Obama has has a track record in Syria, Egypt, and Libya of intervening on the side of the Muslim Brotherhood and against Christians.

But it doesn't mean that all "revolutions" that occur on his watch are because of Obama.

Remember there is also a track record of revolutions in former Soviet states, Orange in Ukraine and Rose in Georgia, all before Obama. Also remember it was Yanukovich and his winning election results that were tossed during the Orange revolution.

I don't think Obama caused the Maiden protests. I don't think he cares that much. About Putin, I only think Obama cares about the gay thing.

We do know that Obama and his State Department wanted Yatsenyk as the interim PM and that's exacty what he got.

And we do know that Obama and Yatsenyk have done very little to defend Ukraine.

49 posted on 04/18/2014 5:32:19 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: 1rudeboy

Just what I thought. Snark. No examples, just snark. Thanks for proving my point.

BTW, isn’t he just DREAMY!!!!?!?!?


50 posted on 04/18/2014 5:42:51 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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