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Obama strips our military while building own militia
The Lowell Sun ^ | April 17, 2014 | Blossom Stiefel

Posted on 04/18/2014 2:19:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It is the responsibility of the federal government to protect the United States from "invasion."

How is it possible that top administration officials have directed 21,000 border patrol officers to retreat or distance themselves and seek cover in response to thrown or hurled projectiles from illegal aliens or drug smugglers? They are directed to keep their weapons holstered when drug smugglers drive by, and agents can't use guns against a fleeing vehicle. Instructions also indicate that officers will be penalized if they don't step back.

The new rules were issued this March by Michael Fisher, chief of U.S. Border Patrol. In a news conference, Fisher told reporters that our agents would be equipped with short-range tasers and pepper spray plus medium-range pellet guns, to deter attacks.

With all of these restrictions, how can we protect our borders? How are we protecting our own Border Patrol people? Does this Administration even think about protecting Americans?

Americans embrace and encourage legal immigration. We have laws for people to acclimate to American society. The first rule is recognition and respect for the rule of law. Crossing the border illegally makes a person a criminal, but the Border Patrol now is forced to ignore this crime.

Curiously, at the same time, President Obama is building a nonmilitary "national security force" -- the one he referenced when he said the following in his 2008 campaign: "We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national-security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."

Obama is purging our military of generals and officers, cutting our military budget and advocating gun control, but building a vast arsenal of weapons and ammo under DHS. Border agents have the most dangerous job in federal law enforcement; if they are being told to refrain from using lethal force on the job, why is DHS hoarding bullets? According to a new General Accounting Office report, the DHS is planning on buying a huge amount of ammunition ? 703 million rounds through fiscal year 2018.

It's not only Homeland Security; other agencies are becoming more and more militarized under Obama's watch. Domestic agencies having nothing to do with national defense, such as the Department of Education, the Internal Revenue Service, the U.S. Postal Service, and the Social Security Administration are also stockpiling ammunition and weaponry.

Obama's strategy: Take away guns from innocent citizens so they can't fight back, shred the Constitution, defile the military, and build your own shadow army through federal agencies.

George Washington said: "A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2014election; 2016election; banglist; election2014; election2016; military; obama

1 posted on 04/18/2014 2:19:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You just give that your best shot there, Mr. Obama.

Kick that hornet’s nest some more.

Kick it real good.


2 posted on 04/18/2014 2:22:59 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama's target isn't Putin. It's us.

The states need to stand up to this.

3 posted on 04/18/2014 2:23:11 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As you have all seen before:


4 posted on 04/18/2014 2:23:19 PM PDT by Lockbar (What would Vlad The Impaler do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You just saw some of his Militia in action against Mr. Bundy in Nevada. And the people on the Texas - OK State Line around the Red River will probably see them in action sometime soon.

My question is, what talking points are they ,Obama's Militia ,a/k/a the BLM, going to convey to their moles and plants on this forum to demonize the people there, a/l/a Mr. Bundy?

5 posted on 04/18/2014 2:26:20 PM PDT by sport
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The placeholder agency for future domestic operations:

FEMA Corps

6 posted on 04/18/2014 2:27:47 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: humblegunner

To all those who ask *why* cops are increasingly willing to kill peoples’ dogs.

Target practice.


7 posted on 04/18/2014 2:28:08 PM PDT by Salamander (Agent Of Fortune)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In his own words:
“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” Barack Hussein Obama, 7/2/2008
They don’t call it a Civil Defense force, that would imply we need (or perhaps that we deserve) defense.

The official name is National Civilian Community Corps. I think of it as the NATCCC, or more simply as the NatCs...

8 posted on 04/18/2014 2:28:11 PM PDT by null and void (...if you are too sure of your place in heaven you might be too arrogant to actually get there.)
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To: PapaNew

True That Why else would so many Gov agencies need weapons, tanks, ammo, other than to be used on the American People.
A post office in Kansas is for sure not gonna see battle unless the Navy, US Army, Marines, Air Force, and countless NG units fail.


9 posted on 04/18/2014 2:30:08 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This puke isn't fit to be el presidente of some third world hellhole. Which is exactly where he's leading us.

How could Americans have been so stupid?

White guilt nurtured over the past 5 or so decades, thats how.

10 posted on 04/18/2014 2:44:13 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Law Enforcement

"The president's role in law enforcement rests on the constitutional requirement that the president “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.” The president serves as chief executive of what has become a vast law enforcement apparatus. Should assistance be needed, the president can invoke the authority of “commander in chief” and deploy the armed forces, including units of state militia, to enforce the law."

Presidential law enforcement powers have grown in rough proportion to enlargements in the responsibilities and power of the national government itself. Over the years Congress has added greatly to the law enforcement duties of the president. One dramatic example of this use of presidential power came in 1962, when John F. Kennedy ordered U.S. marshals and regular army troops to quell riots protesting a court order that required the University of Mississippi to integrate its student body by admitting a black student, James Meredith.

It seems that Harry Reid is recklessly instigating further unrest by calling Patriotic Americans "domestic terrorist".....a cheap political ploy to get those who disagree with Mr. Reid to fire the first shot.....Obama can then step in and have the oppressor with draw or.....

11 posted on 04/18/2014 2:46:33 PM PDT by yoe (BHO changed the rules without Congressional input making Obamacare Null&Void...EO's arent law....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There is a point where government action (i.e. killing civilians, confiscating property, haebus corpus, etc.), causes a spark that cannot be extinguished. It's happened twice before. I pray it doesn't happen again.

5.56mm

12 posted on 04/18/2014 2:52:25 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
It is the responsibility of the federal government to protect the United States from "invasion."

According to the Constitution, the above statement is not entirely correct with respect to who, between states and feds, has responsibility to protect the US from invasions. More specifically, consider Clause 3 of Section 10 of Article I.

Article I, Section 10, Clause 3: No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded [emphasis added], or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

The problem with the "invader," illegal immigrants in this case, is that they are simply walking across the border instead taking a more aggressive approach to entering the country. The following football video illustrates my point. Keep your eye on the quarterback in the white jersey.

Trick Touchdown American Football

Also, as mentioned in related threads, the states have never delegated to the feds, via the Constitution, the specific power to address immigration issues, the states uniquely having the 10th Amendment-protected power to regulate immigration imo.

13 posted on 04/18/2014 2:53:43 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: DocJhn

We need to support the Convention of States proposed by Citizens for Self Governance and vote for whoever is as determined to take the federal government down at least 80% as Obama was to increase government.


14 posted on 04/18/2014 2:56:05 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If it’s under the control of the federal government, it’s not a militia.


15 posted on 04/18/2014 2:57:33 PM PDT by Bob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bkmrk


16 posted on 04/18/2014 3:02:46 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is why they were so freaked when the constitutional militia showed up at the Bundy ranch. Howdy boys. :-)


17 posted on 04/18/2014 3:15:44 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And no, these are not US military members, they are alphabet soup "agents." Almost every Federal fiefdom has them now.

Hey, but at least the Palestinians still love him.


18 posted on 04/18/2014 3:29:01 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why on Earth are people striving to become American, knowing full well that once they become an American, the US government will fail to protect them ?


19 posted on 04/18/2014 3:46:10 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The same administration that gives orders to retreat from engaging illegal aliens and drug smugglers gave a shoot to kill order against American Citizens trying to reclaim some cows for a rancher.


20 posted on 04/18/2014 4:04:54 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And we let him get away with this because we dont have the balls to nail his a## to the wall, why? because he’s black


21 posted on 04/18/2014 4:22:46 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: SkyPilot

Re your posting of Arafat and BHO: Is that a GWB portrait I haven’t seen? /S


22 posted on 04/18/2014 4:30:18 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

state dept pub. 7277 freedom from war. this is what he’s doing.


23 posted on 04/18/2014 4:46:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Nice.


24 posted on 04/18/2014 4:54:15 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: yoe
"It seems that Harry Reid is recklessly instigating further unrest by calling Patriotic Americans "domestic terrorist""

All part of the long term plan don't you know?

25 posted on 04/18/2014 5:02:19 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Bob

“If it’s under the control of the federal government, it’s not a militia.”

That’s right, but instead of voting like military personnel they’ll vote like Motor Vehicle Services workers...


26 posted on 04/18/2014 5:05:57 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The military can’t be trusted to enforce martial law, they’ll be confined to base practicing “readiness”. If they were armed, they might breakout and go renegade -which would be bad for the China shop swap teams. When somebody shows up wearing a US flag badge they deserve sworn too -it will be a bad day for the local tacti-cool union city cops.


27 posted on 04/18/2014 5:31:52 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.


28 posted on 04/18/2014 5:39:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It certainly does look like Obama is planing to uses all theses Domestic agency as a series of armies to impose domestic control.

Not unlike the Armed BLM at the Bundy Ranch. BLM had no business welding armed sounders and guns. If they wanted to arrest Bundy they should have had the justice department do so.

There was absolute no excuse for them confronting the protesters.


29 posted on 04/18/2014 5:39:58 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

I am increasingly of the opinion that Obama is planning something that will allow him to stay in the White House past Jan 2017, and that’s why he needs to militarize the DHS and other agencies.


30 posted on 04/18/2014 5:45:39 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo ('Merica!)
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To: Salamander

When the Nazi SS trooper was selected, he was given a dog to train. At the completion of his training, he was required to kill his dog. If he could do that, he could follow any order given to him. Same thing here.


31 posted on 04/18/2014 5:55:28 PM PDT by gunner03
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My best advice is start gathering intell on the government thugs.

The thought that the tables can be turned on them doesn’t enter their tiny liberal minds as they move around in packs terrorizing the citizenry.


32 posted on 04/18/2014 7:08:57 PM PDT by Gasshog (DemoKKKrats: Leaders of the Free Sh!t World)
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To: gunner03

More than a bit eerie, that.


33 posted on 04/18/2014 7:28:51 PM PDT by Salamander (Agent Of Fortune)
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To: kearnyirish2; Bob
You're both wrong. While the militias belong to the ‘various states’, which appoint their officers, Congress determines their equipping and discipline, and ‘determines the conditions for calling up the militia.’ The President, as Commander-in-Chief, commands the militia when it is in Federal service. Moreover, the Draft registration is, in effect, a National Enrolled Militia, subject to call up at the discretion of Congress.

The US Constitution, and the Constitutions and Militia Laws of the various states make it clear that the militia is a part of the state, or rather of the nation and the people. “We the People of the United States...” Remember?

34 posted on 04/18/2014 7:37:44 PM PDT by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; ...

Active Duty ping.


35 posted on 04/18/2014 7:42:10 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Thanks very much for the ping, JJ!

It becomes more and more obvious, day-by-day, that this misbegotten bastard has no intention of relinquishing power on 20 Jan 2017.



America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!

O stranger, tell the Lacedaemonians that we lie here, obedient to their command.

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

36 posted on 04/18/2014 7:46:50 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Mlichael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: SkyPilot

Ever notice none of those goons have an American flag on their uniform?


37 posted on 04/19/2014 8:18:50 AM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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