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Orthodox Corruption?
Vimeo Video ^ | February 6, 2013 | Simon Ostrovsky

Posted on 04/18/2014 5:59:50 PM PDT by No One Special

Russia's Orthodox Church has experienced a resurgence under President Vladimir Putin, but have the state's finances and Russia's dominant religion become too closely intertwined? Simon Ostrovsky reports for People & Power on Al Jazeera English. (Feb 6, 2013)


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: russia; russianorthodox
25 minute video.
1 posted on 04/18/2014 5:59:50 PM PDT by No One Special
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To: No One Special

A 25 minute “Al Jazeera” video.


2 posted on 04/18/2014 6:01:51 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: No One Special

Just Like the Lutheran Church being corrupted by Hitler in the run up to WWII


3 posted on 04/18/2014 6:06:04 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

This is not entirely accurate, since, from the very beginning, the patriarchs of the ROC have all been KGB agents, including the current one who was outed some time ago. This is like saying that the church was corrupted only recently, when, really, it’s been under Kremlin control for a long time.


4 posted on 04/18/2014 6:08:38 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Kremlin gremlins eh?


5 posted on 04/18/2014 6:09:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Under communism the orthodox church of Russia was persecuted. Churches were destroyed or turned into government buildings, clergy were imprisoned and killed, God was forbidden.


6 posted on 04/18/2014 6:14:31 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: elpadre

The ROC was later rehabilitated and used for communist purposes, and its ranks filled with informants in the confessional and commies at the altar, as it is today, with the Kremlin directing its messages to the sheep.


7 posted on 04/18/2014 6:16:30 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

If you noticed my comparison it was that of the Lutheran Church in the 1930s as Hitler came to power....Hitler made sure all of the seminaries were filled with his people...and the rest is obvious.

The Soviet Union (formerly known as Russia) did the same thing when the tsar was over thrown. The ‘church’ had to be state approved and we all know what that means.

You and I agree this is not a new thing at all. It is part of why I laugh when people tell me what a wonderful Christian Putin is and how Christian ‘Russia’ is becoming


8 posted on 04/18/2014 6:27:50 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Ahh I understand you now. Yes, indeed, one does not know whether to laugh or cry when people call Putin a “Christian.”


9 posted on 04/18/2014 6:30:53 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: No One Special
“It's all about misdirection, Stanley”

So far people in the US and EU have never failed to be suckers for Mooze Lame misdirection and those silly Christians worldwide can't resist fighting one another when there's a buck to be made.

"Evil Russian Church", "evil Putin", "evil Russians", "save the poor Muzzie Tartars", looks like there's a major Mooze Lame push coming somewhere east of the Ukraine or along the Atlantic coast of Europe.

10 posted on 04/18/2014 6:32:04 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Sound like an oxymoron to me...


11 posted on 04/18/2014 6:33:14 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Rashputin

Yup, Russia is the least of our problems over there and no one seems to care about them in our own back yard (along with the Chinese and Iranians). Meanwhile Israel is backing away from us and getting closer to Russia.


12 posted on 04/18/2014 6:51:27 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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Wow. A lot of comments before 25 minutes after my original post. Tells me no one has even viewed the film.


13 posted on 04/18/2014 6:53:41 PM PDT by No One Special
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To: No One Special
Could it be the All Jazz sourcing that caused people to skip it or you guess it was the link there to a compelling piece about injustice in Jamaica that distracted them?
14 posted on 04/18/2014 7:06:44 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: cripplecreek
Nice Puddywuts on your "about" page. One of my nephews has a pair like that and they alternate between a barrel of laughs and a barrel of trouble.

I don't have an "about" because, as they say, I'm still finding myself.

Regards

15 posted on 04/18/2014 7:11:01 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

That would be for you to answer because I cannot guess why you did not view it.


16 posted on 04/18/2014 7:13:15 PM PDT by No One Special
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Kremlin gremlins eh?

Groan....

17 posted on 04/18/2014 7:16:33 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: No One Special

Oh, I caught the first little bit but stopped at the twenty-first buzzword. You know. about two minutes in?


18 posted on 04/18/2014 7:21:39 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

So you missed the part when one of the interviewees had is skull cracked and his arm broken.


19 posted on 04/18/2014 7:33:16 PM PDT by No One Special
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To: No One Special

Al Jazeera...?


20 posted on 04/18/2014 8:01:59 PM PDT by arielguard (Fasting without prayer is vainglory.)
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To: No One Special
When I broke my neck there was a guy in the ER in that same shape. You mean it was Russian operatives who really did that to him and the motorcycle wreck stuff was a cover story?

Do you have any idea how easy it is to find a guy with a cracked skull and a broken arm out back of a strip joint or bar any night of the year?

21 posted on 04/18/2014 8:05:21 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: arielguard
Well, you know, the impartial Al Jazeera, not the other Al Jazeera they share office space and personnel with.
22 posted on 04/18/2014 8:07:05 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

You have said nothing of substance about the video but that’s OK. Maybe some other time.


23 posted on 04/18/2014 8:47:17 PM PDT by No One Special
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To: No One Special
Ok, the video lacks any substance given the fact that everything in it is hearsay from a source that constantly floats barely concealed propaganda pieces. It is at best used toilet tissue.

There, all better.

24 posted on 04/18/2014 8:55:00 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

Kewl ;-)


25 posted on 04/18/2014 9:19:17 PM PDT by No One Special
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To: Rashputin

OH...yeah that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification Rashputin. Al Jazeera is known as a beacon of truth, and I didn’t think they would intentionally slander christians. (sarc)


26 posted on 04/20/2014 11:03:05 AM PDT by arielguard (Fasting without prayer is vainglory.)
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To: arielguard
If you look through the "OMG, RUSSIANS !! " stories being put out of late you'll notice a pattern. They're almost every one what a court would call "hearsay".

When the crowd in Kiev were showing off how oppressed they were and how awful the government was, there were photos and little clips of video flooding the Web. Now, not so much.

So, are the cell towers all down? Has Internet service been dramatically reduced? If either is true, wouldn't the evil Russians causing enough damage to have that effect draw EU reporters the way dog dung draws flies?

It's all too convenient, too conveniently the same at all sources, and too conveniently limited to what one side (the new boss, same as the old boss) wants spread.

Add to that the Al Jazeera making it clear who they support (the new boss) and you've got an interesting mix of "information".

In a situation like this, it's normal for both sides to be untrustory sources putting out truth mixed with lies and spin.

In this case you can trust the "government" in Kiev, though. You can trust a "government" that pretends Right Sector on the one hand and Tartar Muzzies (well known for supporting Jihad against the West) on the other, are the "innocent targets" of "sneaky Russian guys not in evidence" to put out nothing but lies and to try and shout down anything they don't approve of.

Especially since the anti-terror troops they sent to Eastern Ukraine basically gave the "government" that sent them the finger. If their own Army doesn't trust them and tells them to stuff it, why should anyone else trust them and protect them?

Ukraine has been a pile of sleeping dogs since long before the Soviet Union fell apart. The EU kicked one dog and the rest woke up. They should have let sleeping dogs lie rather than kicking the one big dog they didn't like.

27 posted on 04/20/2014 4:02:58 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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