Skip to comments.Kroger manager fired after he slams a knife-wielding shoplifter to the ground
Posted on 04/18/2014 7:17:46 PM PDT by grundle
If youre an employee of a chain store and you see a shoplifter, dont confront them. Its been proven again and again and again and again that no matter how noble your intentions are, you can be fired from your job. As KDFW FOX 4 News reports, this is exactly what happened to one Kroger grocery store manager in Arlington, Texas.
A customer in the parking lot of the Kroger recorded the incident on their cellphone. In the video, you can see the unnamed manager approach the shoplifting suspect. The suspect appears to have a knife in his hand. The manager shoves him into a parked car and gets the knife out the suspects hand before eventually slamming him down to the ground.
The alleged shoplifter is 51-year-old Claude Medlock. According to KDFW, Arlington Police say that Mr. Medlock has a, lengthy criminal history that includes theft and robbery convictions. They didnt consider the managers actions a crime, but that didnt matter to Kroger. Kroger sent a statement to KDFW, which read in part:
The incident is not a reflection of our companys fraud prevention protocol, procedures or training He is no longer employed by our company.
The manager told the station that he had worked in loss prevention for 13 years, and believed he handled the situation properly.
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Bad PR for Kroger
“is not a reflection of our companys fraud prevention protocol, procedures or training”
Sadly, in today’s litigious America, home of The Litigation Lottery, it far cheaper in the long run to let someone like that carry off whatever they want, than to risk a confrontation, and the lawsuits that could come from that.
They call it “Risk Management”
All part of the progressive program to make Americans a nation of wimps.
Er, that would be “America.”
These situations are really difficult to call. Of course you would think that stopping thieves and especially knife-weilders is important and just.
OTOH, the crooks can turn around and accuse store employees of all the usual junk racism, etc etc and drag things out in court for years. And God forbid the store employee would injure the perp. You can imagine where that would go.
In my state, selling hard liquor in supermarkets was just voted in. The very first day, a kid robbed the neighborhood supermarket of a couple of expensive bottles of hootch. They just watched him run out the door with it and caught him on camera. I think he was apprehended by police. The store changed the location of the booze, so it’s further from the door.
All crimminals scheduled to be released from prison will know to go to Kroegers for the free stuff 0bama is not giving them.
When I use to be insane enough to live in the Marxist city of New York, all all all the time I would see people, usually blacks, going into Duane Reade drug stores, CVS, Walgreens, Rite Aid, stuffing their pants with stuff then walking right out the front door setting off the scanner alarm. And guess what would happen? Absolutely NOTHING! Because employees weren’t allowed to confront shoplifters. So guess what would would happen next? Nothing! They just continue shoplifting! Isn’t that great? Why pay for anything! Why have cameras in the stores? Why have a scanner at the door?
When I worked in a large grocery chain in the 80’s, all male employees were required to chase down and apprehend shoplifters. Someone would call “Freight Check!” on the PA and we would all head for the front of the store prepared to crack heads. How times have changed.
part of the passification and wussification of America
Security guards, at least in NY, aren’t allowed to do anything except look bored and call the police.....IF site management let’s them.
Otherwise, lay down and play dead, it’s going to be a long night...
Translation: "We would rather have all of our law abiding customer pay for the items stolen by these thieves."
Secondary Translation: "The thieves' Thieves (lawyers) are even BIGGER THIEVES!
are you still considered a ‘suspect’ when you’re apprehended at the scene after being slammed face down with the goods?
Times have really changed. :(
In the 80’s our company was part owner in a bank.
Somebody tried, unsuccessfully, to rob it. The perp was trying to escape on foot and our bank president ran him down (on foot as well) and kept him pinned down until the cops got there. I loved the bank pres!! Don’t EVEN try to rob that bank. :)
Of course like you said times have changed as have small towns and small town banks.
I was talking to a young man who works for a grocery chain, and he said some will put a porterhouse steak in their pants then run out the store. And they are instructed not to pursue any shoplifters.
Well, he certainly looks “aggravated” ! ;)
What’s the bank president going to do-fire himself? ;)
One would think by now that the American people would all know that “No good deed goes unpunished”.
This ended my trips to Kroger.
We shall not defend ourselves...
In a sane world, the loss prevention guy would have been justified in pulling a gun and shooting the thief the moment he saw a knife but we don’t live in a sane world.
Blame the lawyers.
Start growing all of your own food then, including meat because this is most likely the rule for all grocery stores, certainly the chains anyway.
So how do they do fraud prevention? Fire the employee who’s trying to stop fraud. Okay.
While I respect your opinion mine is the opposite view. Having owned two retail stores for ten years, I finally sold them both due to shoplifting both from customers and employees.
Approximately 5% of the retail price of everything was set aside to cover these thieves.
So, Kroger execs are effectively flipping the bird at their paying customers and one day they will lose these customers and go broke because their competition will bust these bastards as we did and pay their lawyers to aggressively fight off lawsuits and sue law firms filing such suits as Chevron is now doing on enviro issues.
“Pardon one offence and you encourage the commission of many (Invitat culpam qui peccatum praeterit )” - Publilius Syrus.
I went into a Kroger in the DFW area in February. They are over-priced.
let’s all just take stuff and walk out of krogers. what a policy, how could it go wrong?
I guess that if you work for someone else, it’s best to follow their policies unless it result in damage to yourself or others. They may still fire you for fending off an actual attack on your person or for keeping someone else from being killed, but it doesn’t make sense to protect assets that the owners don’t want protected.
Five months ago, I was at Stop N Shop. This man wasgoing through the “Self Check-out” line with 8 cases of beer. You cannot do this. So I start raising hell, the man proceeded to run to the exit, and I continue asking for help. This frail old woman, who I could surmise was the front end manager asked me what is wrong. Meanwhile the mans truck was at the curb, the beer was loaded and he was out the parking lot, but the time she even came up to me.
Apparently this is the type of shopping lifting policy that Stop N Shop needs.
My wife is a front-end manager at a supermarket. They do their best. They're told by management not to try to restrain shoplifters. For the salary they're making, it makes sense.
They have disguised store security, but they're not always on duty. The managers ban known shoplifters from the store.
Still, I prefer the old system, when known shoplifters would accidentally walk into a door at the police station. We should bring back corporal punishment.
Anyway, funny story. Last month four teens came into the store where my wife works and drove the handicapped carts around until the batteries ran out. The workers and customers were furious. My not-so-youthful-anymore wife followed them outside after they left. She found them in the parking lot and gave them a lecture. They apologized, came back, and pushed the carts back to the front of the store.
When she came back, everyone wanted to know what happened. She was hailed as the conquering hero. Still, I wouldn't want her to do it again. It's not worth dying for.
I am sure Stop N Shop do their best. My father worked at Publix as a manager. He was there 40 years. He would have ripped the cart of beer out of their hands.
Yes, these days, they may shoot him.
I was just surprised they would have such a person watching the front. That isn’t who they have all of them time. They have a body building guy there most of the time.
They call it Risk Management
No life or limb at risk, my version of risk management says take a photo of the guy and his car.
Dad raised me with a few simple rules to remember - get into a knife fight, you’re gonna get cut.
Not for a few Krogers items, thank you very much.
Definitely see your point, Cen-Tejas. I was incredulous when I learned about the case in our neighborhood. Had I been standing there, I'd have tripped the perp and shouted bloody murder. Don't know whether other customers saw this incident
but most people "don't want to get involved." Amazing, huh?
Yes sir! Thanks for your comment.
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