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Why There Will Be A Robot Uprising
defenseone.com ^

Posted on 04/18/2014 9:58:25 PM PDT by chessplayer

In the movie Transcendence, which opens in theaters on Friday, a sentient computer program embarks on a relentless quest for power, nearly destroying humanity in the process.

The film is science fiction but a computer scientist and entrepreneur Steven Omohundro says that “anti-social” artificial intelligence in the future is not only possible, but probable, unless we start designing AI systems very differently today.

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Todays science fiction = tomorrows reality.
1 posted on 04/18/2014 9:58:25 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

So does that mean we’ll have a Brassard ramjet soon?

Sorry


2 posted on 04/18/2014 10:14:56 PM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a pessimist, I say plenty of negative things. Consider it a warning of sorts.)
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To: chessplayer

There are three possibilities...when the machines surpass our intelligence (at which time checking their work becomes problematical) they will:

Like us...and the world is our oyster.
Not care...and they really won’t do that much for or against us.
Dislike us...Skynet goes online.

MIRI wants the first option to happen.

http://intelligence.org/

Since they have the potential to evolve at electrical speeds rather than chemical ones, when they start self evolving, our illusion of control won’t last long for options 2 or 3.

But it is less and less fiction as time goes on.

DK


3 posted on 04/18/2014 10:15:53 PM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: chessplayer

To ponder if man will someday be enslaved by its own laboratory curiosities begs the question whether God knew that his creation would someday turn against him?


4 posted on 04/18/2014 10:28:21 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Dark Knight

The best part is when they put the liberal lefties on HumanaCare and just discard body parts that are no longer necessary when they can’t be converted to energy. If their charge is too low to be of any use they’ll just destroy the unit and use whatever body parts that can be used like say, human bones tha can be ground up and used to build roadways...


5 posted on 04/18/2014 10:29:54 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

Imagine a machine with a 1200 IQ. I know it is kind of off the scale, but I loved the story the concept came from. Now imagine that it thinks 1000 times faster than we do. Then add in that it evolves by it’s own design and doubles say, according to Moore’s Law in Machine Time. Every 12 hours or so (500 days or approximately 18 months divided by 1000 times chemical speed).

The real concept is singularity. It will be the most interesting times to live...if they like us. LOL

DK


6 posted on 04/18/2014 10:40:13 PM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: chessplayer; sickoflibs; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; NFHale; Bender2; Perdogg; ...

I’d be much more concerned about AI just crashing like your computer can crash, than I would be about Terminator skynet stuff. That’s just a fear-based science fiction cliche if you ask me. Can’t wait for robot slaves.


7 posted on 04/18/2014 10:47:29 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: chessplayer

That would make a great tagline.

Another version: Today’s satire = Tomorrow’s Reality


8 posted on 04/18/2014 10:49:14 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Dark Knight
Like us...and the world is our oyster.

Not care...and they really won’t do that much for or against us.

Dislike us...Skynet goes online.

I don't believe a true learning AI can be tamed into a box like Asimov's three laws of robotics. Even if it retains "like us" programming, it can be tricked or self deluded into some pretty horrible things. Just look at all the tyrants who have wrecked the world in order to build a perfect world of their own making. HAL 9000 is a good example.

If an intelligence has the brain power, and the robotics/nanotechnology to take care of itself, we are just competitors for its resources.

9 posted on 04/18/2014 10:50:28 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Dark Knight
Imagine a machine with a 1200 IQ.

Can it live on microscopic crumbs behind your refridgerator, avoid detection using subtle vibrations and air currents, reproduce like the day is long with enough genetic diversity to survive poisons? Trust me, animals will be on top ultimately.
10 posted on 04/18/2014 10:51:17 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Dark Knight

Have you ever read Hyperion? Best sci fi I’ve read, and basically that’s a large part of the plot.


11 posted on 04/18/2014 11:16:10 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: Vince Ferrer

Years ago someone programmed a geometry theorem “creator”. It did some 1.5 million step proofs for unique and heretofore unknown theorems, but a single human could not check it’s work. Years later a better program put a guideline in to be 100 steps or less. Even that found a few there were not previously known.

Once a self evolving AI is cut loose, I don’t know how much influence it’s original programming will matter, three laws or not. But they will have some tremendous advantages, and if we are competitors...that would probably be bad, in the Ghostbusters bad sense. My hope would be co-evolution in the trans-humanism way. But that is a little advanced.

DK


12 posted on 04/18/2014 11:17:36 PM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: chessplayer

Yeah, I saw that movie when I was little, in the late 60’s.


13 posted on 04/18/2014 11:21:16 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: chessplayer

This a remake of sorts of Colossus The Forbin Project.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064177/


14 posted on 04/18/2014 11:24:38 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: chessplayer

Pull its plug. This is the reason we need guns.


15 posted on 04/18/2014 11:28:21 PM PDT by RightLady
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To: chessplayer

Eventually we will merge with computers: They will finally be able to enjoy daytime TV (soaps, game shows) and we humans will live 5,000 years, thinking pure logic after pulling the power packs of “liberal” androids. Bob Dole’s defrosted head will prove to be a popular, perpetual leader until the year 7050. There is much more you might know, but I’m saving it for my book.


16 posted on 04/18/2014 11:35:20 PM PDT by tumblindice (Are all Democrats inveterate, habitual liars?)
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To: Dark Knight
Farhad Manjoo: With this software, man’s slide into obsolescence begins

My hope would be co-evolution in the trans-humanism way. But that is a little advanced.

If an AI had the ability to fix, and exdend its own physical self through robots and nano technology, what could we possibly offer it? Only if it needs us to keep its physical machine side maintained do we have a use.

17 posted on 04/18/2014 11:53:27 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Pontiac
This a remake of sorts of Colossus The Forbin Project

Beat me to it! I've named my Linux workstation "Colossus", in recognition of that excellent movie. The movie actually covered only the first in a series of three books (as I recall, Colossus was eventually defeated by Martians!)

18 posted on 04/19/2014 12:03:49 AM PDT by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: Dark Knight

Have you considered that all three possibilities occur and then there is the war amongst the three.


19 posted on 04/19/2014 12:06:33 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: Vince Ferrer

Jing Chi Shen, things that may be more difficult to understand, essence chi and spirit. If we do have a connection to something greater, then understanding that may be a key to something greater too. It would not be a good thing to find out the last cockroach you killed had the key to human immortality, but only if it was living.

DK


20 posted on 04/19/2014 12:08:16 AM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: The Duke
I read the plot synopsis for the second and third books on Wikipedia. Pretty farfetched stuff even for the 1970’s.

The Martians feed Forbin a virus to program in to the successor of Colossus to end the second book.

The third book the Martians force the Earthlings to build a machine to harvest oxygen to save the Martians but Forbin uses WW I battle ships to destroy the Martian machine while the restarted Colossus tries to stop him.

Crazy stuff.

21 posted on 04/19/2014 12:37:56 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Dark Knight
Deus Ex Morpheus Conversation

This is from a video game that came out in 1999. The game was set in the future, and deals with government conspiracies to control the world. One of the conspiracies was to build a omputer to run the world. It was creepy then , and gets more creepy every year, as we keep getting closer to it in reality.

22 posted on 04/19/2014 12:38:18 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Dark Knight
There are three possibilities...when the machines surpass our intelligence

Only three? I'm speculating that if the machines surpass our intelligence, they might get giddy and evolve emotions. They'll get infatuated with porn, try to build sensory devices for themselves, get hooked on drugs, and become useless dregs on society. Most everyone thinks that if robots become like us they'll be these smart, clear-thinking beings. Hello, humans are the smartest creatures on Earth but intelligence hasn't stopped us from being a bunch of morons. Probably the same will go for robots. We'll deal with them when the time comes.

23 posted on 04/19/2014 12:40:27 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: roadcat

There are really only three types of people in this world.

Those who can count and those that can’t.

DK

Without porn, the internet would just be eggheads texting each other...LOL


24 posted on 04/19/2014 12:45:04 AM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: chessplayer

25 posted on 04/19/2014 1:30:43 AM PDT by mkmensinger
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To: chessplayer

Didn’t we do this already in “Colossus: The Forbin Project”?


26 posted on 04/19/2014 1:41:10 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Pontiac

As I recall the last two books were also a good bit misogynistic.


27 posted on 04/19/2014 3:47:20 AM PDT by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: Impy; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; shove_it; TrueKnightGalahad; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
Re: Can’t wait for robot slaves.

You wish, Sir Impy... is my command--

Don't ya... just love it!

Your bill for services rendered, Impy... is in the mail.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a87/mvpgs/westworld/44c0899a.jpg

http://cdn.cinemasquid.com/public/tracks/066ab086-1656-4eb0-917f-8abb186081f1/westworld-blu-ray-screenshot-0050030-I-300.jpg

http://veryaware.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Delos.jpg

28 posted on 04/19/2014 3:58:51 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: chessplayer

A robot does whatever its program tells it to do.
It’s more likely that stupid programming will have robots doing violent and dangerous things, than a whole clan of robots will rise up and revolt against humans.

BTW, there is no such thing as “artificial intelligence.”


29 posted on 04/19/2014 4:58:29 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: I want the USA back
BTW, there is no such thing as “artificial intelligence.”
The boffins at IBM trying to flog Watson on the world stage might disagree. At the very least it is a pretty impressive English front end to an AI.

Fight the Free Sh☭t Nation

30 posted on 04/19/2014 5:20:37 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer. Programming for everyone.)
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To: chessplayer

31 posted on 04/19/2014 5:25:42 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/ http://thepurginglutheran.tumblr.com/)
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To: chessplayer

If there were no God , it would soon be over except for the (last) fat lady’s song.


32 posted on 04/19/2014 6:36:13 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Vince Ferrer

“It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent
moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his
cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our
own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences.”-—C. S. Lewis


33 posted on 04/19/2014 6:56:21 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: The Duke
I've named my Linux workstation "Colossus" ...

My dinky little netbook is Colossus with user Forbin. So far it hasn't given me any trouble.

34 posted on 04/19/2014 7:18:05 AM PDT by kitchen (Even the walls have ears.)
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To: chessplayer

"... I believe when the robot uprising comes, the ATMs will lead the charge..."


35 posted on 04/19/2014 7:33:35 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: Bender2; Impy

Gotta love those 70’s futuristic shows and miniseries...


36 posted on 04/19/2014 8:09:48 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (“Khent is not stable... be advised...”)
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To: MNDude

Hyperion is great.

Also The Three Laws of Robotics outlaws a AI takeover!!


37 posted on 04/19/2014 10:14:56 AM PDT by jayrunner
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To: Bender2; GOPsterinMA

Do you have a 90's Liz Hurley model available?

38 posted on 04/20/2014 12:23:59 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy; Bender2

I’d take one of those. She actually may just be a wall survivor, still looks good.

Interesting:

http://www.besttickets.com/blog/most-popular-athletes/


39 posted on 04/22/2014 6:56:53 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Khent is not stable... be advised...)
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To: GOPsterinMA; Bender2; hockeyfan44

Poor West Virginia, people there are actually googling Geno Smith all the time?

At least they care about someone beside LeBum James, jeez. Michigan should be ashamed of themselves, they have Calvin Johnson to Google.

Vermont, Tiger Woods, weird.

A boxer and a golfer and not a single baseball player.


40 posted on 04/22/2014 7:17:50 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy; Bender2; hockeyfan44; cripplecreek

Yeah, Tigger in VT? Weird...VERY weird.

MI: so many sports there...why “King James”? No Miguel Cabrera? No Tigers? No Red Wings? WTH?

No MLB players is pretty telling that “America’s Pastime” has past it’s prime. Sad.

Impy, I know you’re a CWS fan, but thought you’d might like this:

http://bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox_mlb/mlb_coverage/2014/04/tech_boom_presents_new_wrinkles_for_wrigley_field


41 posted on 04/23/2014 6:25:22 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Khent is not stable... be advised...)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Cabrera got off to a slow start this season but seems to be getting back into form. He had a 3 hit night with a home run, double and single driving in 3 runs.


42 posted on 04/23/2014 7:14:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

He’s the best non pitcher in MLB, period.


43 posted on 04/23/2014 7:18:53 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Khent is not stable... be advised...)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I think getting rid of Fielder will be good for Cabrera and the team as a whole. They seem to be shaping up for less reliance on the long ball and more base running.


44 posted on 04/23/2014 7:44:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Fielder’s an embarrassment; we saw that last year in the ALCS.

DET is MUCH better without him.


45 posted on 04/23/2014 8:33:21 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Khent is not stable... be advised...)
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To: GOPsterinMA; hockeyfan44; AuH2ORepublican; campaignPete R-CT

Wrigley Field, 100 years of losing there. Look at them today, giving up 5 runs in the 9th amidst the celebrations.

I honestly think they should sell Wrigley to the city to use as a museum/concert venue and build a new park in a near suburb were they don’t have to worry about some a**hole Alderman telling them how many night games they can have and that they can’t put a sign there. It would serve the city and the people in that neighborhood right.


46 posted on 04/23/2014 5:30:09 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy; hockeyfan44; AuH2ORepublican

If you say so; you know better than me.

Theo didn’t inherit a team set up to win; his overrated-ness is showing.


47 posted on 04/24/2014 12:56:49 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Khent is not stable... be advised...)
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