Skip to comments.The Bundy 'militia': Who are they?
Posted on 04/19/2014 12:46:19 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
BUNKERVILLE, Nev. -- Armed civilians continue to guard the Cliven Bundy ranch. They have traveled from afar, are camped out, and remain at their posts for hours in an effort to provide security for the cattle rancher.
Bundy supporters drove to Bunkerville from West Virginia, Pennsylvania, and other states to show they believe in Bundy's cause. The rancher has been in a battle with the federal government over the illegal grazing of his cattle for the past two decades.
"I'm just here to help them sleep easy and rest at night," said Booda Cavalier, who says he is providing security for the Bundy family. "They're worried about assassination attempts, a nut case coming into the property and trying to do harm to the women and children that are here on the property."
The people who are protecting the Bundy's say they are willing to put their lives on hold and even die for that cause.
"It's a brotherhood to the point where I would give my life for another," said Patrick Downs, a 20-year-old from California.
He drove to Bunkerville with fellow members of a militia which he joined last August. He connected with the California group over the Internet.
"Enough is enough. The government is trying to take so many things away from us," Downs said.
He won't name his militia because of his concerns about the federal government. He tells 8 News NOW he's unemployed and looking for a job. Currently, he scrounges to get by. He says he doesn't plan to have a family because he fears he'd leave a child fatherless from causes like this one. He is never far from his AR15.
"I will never fire upon a federal agent first. Our rules of engagement are strictly do not fire until fired upon," Downs said.
Just down the road, Kenneth Mitchell, another Bundy supporter, won't say if he's armed.
"I'll be here until the end. What does the end mean? Hopefully, a peaceful resolution to all this that America wakes up and realizes an oppressive government that we have, a tyrannical government that we have, that needs to be stopped and the time is now to stop."
Mitchell plans to move to Las Vegas from Montana. He just joined the Oathkeepers Saturday, which is described as a non-partisan group of people who either serve in the military or have served. The group has a specific mission.
"To make sure that everybody is aware of the constitution and what our constitutional rights are, and to protect the oath of preserving the constitution," Mitchell said.
The supporters, including the ones guarding the Bundy's, tell 8 News NOW they are volunteers and the Bundy's have provided food and water to help them get by.
It occurs to me that I pray he has a way of vetting the people who come to help. There’s no telling who might try to sneak into the mix for one nefarious reason or another.
Who are they?
Probably believers in the United States Constitution, a document which no longer finds much favor in decadent Washington, DC.
I really do wish I could afford to go. I do question how people get guns on the ranch. I have a feeling if you were stopped by the cops on the way there with guns in your vehicle and a cop ask where you’re going and you say “The Bundy ranch”, you wouldn’t go any further.
Booda Cavalier, right, and Reid Henrichs look a a calf on the Bundy ranch near Bunkerville, Nev. Wednesday, April 16, 2014.The two are part of the security detail around Cliven Bundy
” I have a feeling if you were stopped by the cops on the way there with guns in your vehicle and a cop ask where youre going and you say The Bundy ranch, you wouldnt go any further.”
there’s always a way. think outside the box..
Don't let the government live in your head rent-free.
“The 4th Amendment still applies in the US. Traveling with firearms in your vehicle is still legal in the US.”..
Unfortunately, there are those out there who are SUPPOSED to be upholding the law, missed that part of the agreement when they took their oaths. I have no doubt there are LEO’s who would use his/her badge to intimidate you all the while knowing they were in the wrong. Most are loose cannons that have no business being LEO’s and on the flip side, there are indeed MANY GOOD LEO’s.
“Constitution? What Constitution?”
The correct answer is “none of your business”. A more politic answer might be “west”, or “thattaway”, or (wistfully) “America— as she once was”.
You can bet a third to half the folks there are FBI, DHS, ATF, DEA, etc.
Put a glass of water in the microwave and heat it to just below boiling. Throw in one grain of salt and observe. This is the situation. We have had it. They have lied about us, tried to disarm us, tried to alienate us and make us feel alone and hopeless with no geographic point around which to coalesce. Now we have a place to “run to the sound of the guns”. One grain of salt. It is enough.
April 19 BUMP
There are so many things wrong with your statement I don’t even know where to start.
Let us say we’re this to happen one of us would go no further...
Vanessa, if you have to ask, you’ll never understand.
Why would you get stopped by the cops? If you did get stopped by the cops why would you consent to a vehicle search? If they asked you where you were going why would you tell them? If you did tell them where you were going what makes you think they could stop you?
Don’t talk to the revenue collectors.