Skip to comments.'Guys with Guns Dictate Policy'
Posted on 04/19/2014 7:51:03 AM PDT by rktman
Over the weekend, I spent a lot of time reading about the Bundy Ranch Saga, looking into the area in Nevada where the Bundys live, and asking Google a bunch of questions I wanted answers to.
While researching, I happened upon a press release from an environmental group, and decided to call the person listed as the "contact" person.
The leftist environmentalist and I had about a 45 minute conversation over the phone about the Bundy Ranch, Nevada, and the history of what has been happening there, from his perspective. It was a long time to be on the phone, and it was mainly due to him because, (and you out there who know people like this will understand,) he gave me a ton of hypotheticals to try to explain things to me, you know, because I don't "get it."
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Always have, always will.
‘Guys with Guns Dictate Policy’
Yes, the Feral Government DOES have a lot of guns, and they DO employ those guns to dictate policy. This author is CORRECT!
Oh, wait... that’s not what the environmentalist she was talking to, meant?
Rational, self-professed peaceful and open people like the author describes having a conversation with, are EXACTLY like the totalitarian goons that became the Gestapo, the SS, the STASI, the KGB, et al. Mild mannered (in their eyes) ideologues with educations that bespeak of peaceful endeavors, but somehow always gravitating towards socialism, communism - totalitarianism.
It is only after they have progressed and consolidated their hegemony to the point they can exact their ‘final solution’ and graduate to blowing your brains out beside an open ditch or gassing you and tossing your carcass in an oven.
I’d say the best policy is to preemptively dispatch them and save the rebellion the cost of a trial, but that would be terroristic, so I shan’t.
That's why the Founding Fathers blessed us with a Second Amendment.
Slowly, ever slowly people may be learning that the so called “Environmental Protection” laws and “Environmentalism” is merely a pretext for achieving property transfer from those who presently own the property to those who don’t; i.e. to politicians, their buddies and potential voters.
“It’s striking how totalitarian the “sit-in” hippies have become. They used to protest government for being too powerful. But now, they think it’ll never be quite powerful enough until guns are taken away from the people.”
I grew up in the bay area and have some liberal friends that still long for the days of the hippies. When I point out to them that most of the old hippies are now big gov’t totalitarians they really can’t argue with it.
In 1794 Washington, as President, personally led an army of 13,000 militia against armed protesters against the federal government's tax policies.
How analogous the Whiskey Rebellion is to the Sagebrush Rebellion is, of course, debatable.
“Power grows from the barrel of a gun”, as several Marxists have observed in the past.
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Depends on what you call “hippies” for instance the last great Christian revival in America, and the religious right, and Calvary church all came largely from hippies, real hippies were not becoming PHDs and earning law degrees, or even involved in politics, and it was largely about getting back to the land, and going Galt.
I wonder if your friends are really longing for more politicized Yippies than gun owning hippies of the early Mother Earth News period.
Just curious, do you think a vest like that could stop a 175 FMJ at 2800 fps?
Or an F&N 5.7 at 3200 fps?
The answer is probably not.
You are correct. The people I know from bay area, CA long for the protests, social freedoms, the concerts and pot.
As I point out to them, they once wanted gov’t to just leave them alone, but now they want to force their social agendas on everyone else. So they have become what they were protesting against.
Those who beat their swords into plowshares wind up plowing for those who kept their swords. Ask Putin.
I wonder how many of those people were actual hippies, or just people living in Frisco and partying like kids during the period, as they attended college and then went on to their careers.
They live in one of the most expensive cities in America, how many of them could have been actual hippies? Are you sure they weren’t more of the college kid, or yippie types?
"Imagine a world without guns," one of them bleated in a local rag not too long ago. It's easy, actually: Genghis Khan.
Dragon Skin Armor was designed to overcome this by incorporating a bunch of smaller, overlapping plates, but as I understand it, results have been somewhat mixed.
How is that different than all of human history?
You are either the master of your own life and the citizen of a republic, or you are a slave.
The left would have us all be slaves.
Guns are the only way now in the west. The courts refuse to recognize the precedents set in Hage v US and refuse the enjoin the BLM from repeated their behaviors found unlawful.
What other option is there?
Most of the ones I know were like me living out there; loved the concerts and rebellion against authority. But the problem with them is that they have used that background to push more gov’t intervention into everyone’s lives. They are environmental radicals. They were not happy to make abortion legal but they force everyone to pay for it, they not only stopped discrimination against gays but now they are teaching it to the grade school kids in CA. They have better rules in some cities for illegals than they do for the taxpayers. I could go on and on.
I know some real hippies that live off the land as you describe, but not much in CA liberal areas.
Load and lock. Or lock and load if you prefer. :>}
Thomas Jefferson said (paraphrasing) that government is not about reason; it is about force.
Government is a gun.
God bless you all. Gotta love chicks with guns.
Next time, let’s throw tortoises at the BLM.
How about we throw them under the bus? That ought to bring out the alf brigades backed up by the peta brains. Cattle, not so much.
Are the inserts rated for 30-06 FMJ? I had no idea....
Here’s where they’re going with it...
So, level five is a long way from being common for government JBTs then. The JBTs at the Bundy Ranch had the standard issue stuff. Just about all the demonstrators that were armed had rifles that would have gone right through what those guys were wearing, I wonder if any of them realized it?
Yep...even the very best (other than some arcane stuff like in the video) is considered Level IV, and even that would become unwieldy and hot in the Nevada Desert. In my experience, most people who wear body armor are pretty familiar with both its capabilities and limitations.
Wouldn't surprise me at all. I think the exposed parts of my body would feel pretty nekkid wearing one of those. If I were a BLM JBT at the Bund Ranch, I'd probably not wear armor at all. Better to be light on my feet than wear useless armor.
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