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nationalreview.com ^ | 4/19/2014 | Charles C. W. Cooke

Posted on 04/19/2014 9:18:06 AM PDT by rktman

We are all miserably accustomed to being informed that our rights must be curtailed because the Founders “couldn’t have imagined” the way in which they would eventually be exercised. “Well, sure it made sense to have an armed population back when the people only had muskets,” this argument tends to go. “But now that four-year-old children can buy semi-automatic nuclear death-rays with their Happy Meals, it’s just anachronistic.”

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Charlie, Charlie, Charlie. Well of course they should be arrested. Who know when they might go down in to the cargo hold during the flight and retrieve their weapon and kill all the passengers. Just having the firearm in close proximity is liable to set any one of those nut case gun owners off.
1 posted on 04/19/2014 9:18:06 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman
Probably can't carry a pair of these either:


2 posted on 04/19/2014 9:21:22 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: rktman

“Well, sure it made sense to have an armed population back when the people only had muskets,”

I’ll buy that when they buy the argument “Well, sure it made sense to have a free press back when the press only had pens and manual printers and not the internet, TV, radio and other media.”


3 posted on 04/19/2014 9:25:38 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: rktman

(This is a post I cobbled together back around 2003 or so but it is even more pertinent as the government breaks out of the chains the Founders fashioned for it. The TSA is simply one of the more visible and obnoxious of fedzillla’s diseased appendages.)
I hate to sound like a broken record (or a CD for you kiddies who don’t remember them – or the God-given freedoms all those folks died to try to preserve for you) but here I go again!
The TSA began hijacking our freedoms the day they started the “security” crap at the airports many years ago. Some of us bi**hed about it then but didn’t get much response. Fedzilla was conditioning us to accept more and more restrictions on our freedoms from day one. Looks like it’s working, doesn’t it?
But, of course, say you, didn’t their system of NOT PROFILING do a splendid job by keeping those 19 muzzies off planes on 9-11? Goodness, if they hadn’t been stopped, they might have killed over 3,000 people, knocked down buildings and...
Oh, never mind.
(In the post 9-11 world, anyone stupid enough to try to take over a commercial flight would be beaten to death by the passengers who realize that’s to be preferred to hitting the Capitol at 600 MPH.)
It begs a question of anyone who has a real-world grip on how governments — ALL governments — operate:
“Did anyone really think the situation would get better for the traveling public?”
Having said that, this airport “training” of the public is essential to the success of Obozo’s planned National Defense Corps (or is that “corpse?”) street patrols. Can you say “You VILL show me your papers” in ebonics?
“Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.” (William Pitt, 1759 1806)

FOLLOW UP POST: TRIP TO NEW ENGLAND
In mid-2002, my wife and I flew to a family wedding in New England and changed planes in Philly.
With a 1 hour layover, we went to get a bite to eat at a joint in the then “sterile concourse.” Our departing flight was in the same concourse.
Imagine my surprise when the meal came with one of those sturdy, white plastic knives with a serrated edge I pocketed and took on the departing flight. I later literally butchered a salami to prove that the knife was, in fact, a potentially lethal weapon.

Cutting (pun intended) to the chase, after 9-11, the next gang of morons who attempt to charge the flight deck of a commercial aircraft would be beaten to death by passengers who understand that if the flight was taken over, they would be dead anyway. They’d have nothing to lose.
If the TSA wants to keep planes from coming down, they should devote their efforts to PROFILING (just as the Israelis do) and inspecting the AIR CARGO in the belly of the plane, only 5% or so is inspected now. That’s probably how it’ll happen next time.
PS: For those really interested in the truth about how this Keystone Cops TSA operation FAILS TO PROTECT US, check out “Please Remove Your Shoes” available on NETFLIX and elsewhere. This troubling documentary examines the Transportation Security Administration’s role as protector of the American skies, raising questions about the disturbing gap between the federal agency’s avowed purpose and actual airport safety since 9/11.


4 posted on 04/19/2014 9:29:09 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: rktman

HBealeJr •3 hours ago

Maybe we should use the Jeb Bush defense. Travelling with a firearm while illegal in New York and New Jersey is really an act of love.

LOL


5 posted on 04/19/2014 9:29:42 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: rktman

“armed population back when the people only had muskets”

soory but my ancestors had a couple of cannons and some blunderbusses as both were legal by right then and still are.

Both are assault weapons.

The blunderbuss could wipe out a whole room full of people.

My neighbor on the next mountain over yonder up 3,000 feet has 2 brass cannon in her front yard that she dug up across the street.

My neighbor at the bottom of the hill here has two Revolutionary War iron cannons mounted in his front yard since 1902.

It`s normal here.


6 posted on 04/19/2014 9:33:21 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: rktman
But now that four-year-old children can buy semi-automatic nuclear death-rays with their Happy Meals, it’s just anachronistic.

Not true. You have to be at least six to buy a semi-automatic nuclear death-ray. Dad made me mow lawns for mine.

7 posted on 04/19/2014 9:36:27 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: rktman

Confiscated and destroyed?

In a pig’s eye. I figure some politico and or high ranking cop has obtained a pretty nice collection of high end weaponry.


8 posted on 04/19/2014 9:36:51 AM PDT by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: rktman
I was visiting St. Louis recently and while trying to get through the downtown construction to visit the Arch I made a wrong turn and wound up on the Eads bridge headed to Illinois. I was legally armed -- in Missouri. I was an instant criminal in Illinois; but not for long. At the first turn around spot I hightailed it back to the "sane state."

Even though I would relish a Saturday afternoon performance at the Metropolitan Opera, New York and New Jersey will prolly never get a moment of my presence.

(Would I trust this federal law to protect me? Depends what you mean by protect. After I've shelled out thousands of dollars to lawyers and bail bondsmen I'm sure it wouldn't feel like protection.)

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9 posted on 04/19/2014 9:38:34 AM PDT by JCG
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To: bunkerhill7

Why on earth would anyone want cannon in their front yard?

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10 posted on 04/19/2014 9:41:50 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Paladin2

11 posted on 04/19/2014 9:53:00 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Mears

In case they scale the walls?


12 posted on 04/19/2014 9:56:23 AM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Mears
Why on earth would anyone want cannon in their front yard?

What kind of nut wouldn't want cannon in their front yard? I love going to St Augustine, FL just because there are so many cannon out there that they use them for fence posts.

13 posted on 04/19/2014 10:01:19 AM PDT by EricT. (Everything not forbidden is compulsory.)
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To: Paladin2

Remember the kid who was suspended for biting his Pop-Tart into the imagined shape of a gun?

What if....what if....the kid had gnawed his Pop-Tart into the shape of....a CROSS!!!!?

And then HELD IT UP HIGH!!!!???

(Don’t even speculate on what his punishment might have been)


14 posted on 04/19/2014 10:25:51 AM PDT by elcid1970
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To: elcid1970

That probably why one can only get a dozen peanuts on a flight now.


15 posted on 04/19/2014 10:28:50 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Dick Bachert

“Imagine my surprise when the meal came with one of those sturdy, white plastic knives with a serrated edge I pocketed and took on the departing flight. I later literally butchered a salami to prove that the knife was, in fact, a potentially lethal weapon.”

Heck, fly First Class and they BRING a STEEL knife (and steel fork) with your meal.


16 posted on 04/19/2014 10:38:42 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Mears

evidently Someone has not visited the northeast mountains yet where battles took place and are never forgotten-

The right to bear arms means the right to have a cannon on your front lawn to remind everyone from whence we came and still are vigilant against tyranny.
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“The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower”-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.”


17 posted on 04/19/2014 10:46:13 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: bunkerhill7

Of course I’ve visited the Northeast mountains-—I’ve lived in MA my entire long life. I’ve visited all of the forts and have been to Concord and Lexington many times,both with children and grandchildren.

I would no more want a cannon in my front yard than I would want a tank.

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18 posted on 04/19/2014 10:57:59 AM PDT by Mears
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To: bunkerhill7
The Constitution itself specifically allows for the federal government to contract with individual citizens to aggressively use their own privately-owned battleships...
Letters of Marque and Reprisal, primarily aimed at Muslim pirates in the Mediterranean. Article I, Section 8, Clause 11.

So by the "logic" of the Left, private ownership of battleships is okay! Where do I line up for the auction of the USS Iowa?

19 posted on 04/19/2014 11:05:22 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Hulka
After 30 years of traveling in sales, if I ever see the inside of another airplane, it will be too soon.

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20 posted on 04/19/2014 11:05:26 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: Mears; bunkerhill7
I would no more want a cannon in my front yard than I would want a tank.

I want a tank in my front yard.

21 posted on 04/19/2014 11:09:04 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Richard Warman censors free speech.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

:-)


22 posted on 04/19/2014 11:10:18 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Teacher317

yes I just saw that somewhere


23 posted on 04/19/2014 11:54:11 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: elcid1970

He wouldn’t have been punished. All the teachers would have spontaneously combusted.


24 posted on 04/19/2014 12:01:33 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: elcid1970
What if....what if....the kid had gnawed his Pop-Tart into the shape of....a CROSS!!!!?

And then HELD IT UP HIGH!!!!???

They would have crucified him!

sorry, I couldn't resist.

Mark

25 posted on 04/19/2014 1:28:46 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Mears
I would no more want a cannon in my front yard than I would want a tank.

Having a cannon in my front yard would be cool. A shooting range here used to have a small anti-tank cannon (37mm?) on their front lawn. And I've always wanted a tank, ever since I saw one at the Smithsonian, and received a book on WWII US tanks. From that point on, I was a huge fan of Tammaia models, and built nearly every model tank in their catalog, including a couple of their motorized models. Tanks are cool!

Unfortunately, at 52, with severe arthritis, I won't ever get into one.

Mark

26 posted on 04/19/2014 1:34:36 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Slings and Arrows
If your front yard is at the top of a pass in Washington, you get one of these:


27 posted on 04/19/2014 2:22:23 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Dick Bachert

You just need access to the corporate jet.


28 posted on 04/19/2014 2:23:22 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Dick Bachert

With you on that.

Since I retired two years ago, and after working international business development for several decades, I will NOT step inside and airport unless there is a really compelling reason and thus far, no such reason exits.


29 posted on 04/19/2014 2:24:37 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Slings and Arrows

30 posted on 04/19/2014 2:30:52 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

SP artillery? Seems a reasonable compromise.


31 posted on 04/19/2014 3:05:44 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Richard Warman censors free speech.)
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To: Mears
"I would no more want a cannon in my front yard than I would want a tank."

Abominably typical "MasSheepleThink". You, apparently, have never lived where people are free.

TXnMA (for 20 years). Been there, finally escaped. Ain't going back -- even for our favorite outing: dinner on the Tanglewood lawn. Or, perhaps, to rescue my son, who is still stuck there.

32 posted on 04/19/2014 5:54:14 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: rktman

If I were ever forced to land in NY/NJ, I simply would refuse to accept possession of (claim) my (locked and checked) hold baggage, and would force it to be held by airport security until they were required to place it back aboard the aircraft to my (more American) destination.


33 posted on 04/19/2014 6:01:10 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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” Abominably typical “MasSheepleThink”. You, apparently, have never lived where people are free. “

Sure I have,I’m 81 years. The 1st 40 years of my life in MA were delightful-—the next 40,not so good.

I visited friends in the Houston area about 10 years ago and didn’t see ONE cannon in a front yard. I guess some Texans agree with me.

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34 posted on 04/19/2014 6:45:50 PM PDT by Mears
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Sorry you won’t get into a tank,Mark. Arthritis is tough.

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35 posted on 04/19/2014 6:59:02 PM PDT by Mears
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LOL!! Obviously, you haven't tried to find an available cannon -- much less attempt to buy it -- lately... Folks that have them aren't letting go of them.

" The 1st 40 years of my life in MA were delightful-—the next 40,not so good."

My time in MA was 1980 - 2001. I'm only 76, and didn't realize how far back it was when MA was free...

36 posted on 04/19/2014 7:26:49 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Dick Bachert
Cutting (pun intended) to the chase, after 9-11, the next gang of morons who attempt to charge the flight deck of a commercial aircraft would be beaten to death by passengers who understand that if the flight was taken over, they would be dead anyway. They’d have nothing to lose.

This is exactly what I've been saying for years. On the morning of 9/11, one of my first comments to my co-workers was that I was wondering what freedoms we'd lose in the wake of it.

37 posted on 04/19/2014 7:43:11 PM PDT by zeugma (Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened - Dr. Seuss (I'll see you again someday Hope))
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To: TXnMA

“LOL!! Obviously, you haven’t tried to find an available cannon — “

I have a neighbor that’s a loose cannon——does that count? :-)

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38 posted on 04/19/2014 7:48:43 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Mears
"I have a neighbor that’s a loose cannon——does that count? :-)"

...I'm still chuckling over that one!

G'night, new FRiend!

39 posted on 04/19/2014 8:59:08 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: rktman

BTTT!


40 posted on 04/25/2014 10:53:41 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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