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Minnesota's wealthy caught in a tight tax net over residency
MPLS Star & Sickle ^ | 4-16-14 | ADAM BELZ

Posted on 04/19/2014 9:19:32 AM PDT by TurboZamboni

It’s getting tougher for Minnesotans to avoid the state’s taxes by spending part of the year somewhere else.

Snowbirds and high earners are discovering that they must do more than buy a condo in the Sun Belt and register a vehicle there, after a court decision last year reinforced the state’s ability to use any of more than two dozen criteria to determine who is a Minnesota resident.

“People refer to it as Hotel Minnesota,” said Matt Shea, a lawyer at Gray Plant Mooty. “You can come any time you like, but you can never leave.”

To determine tax residency, the state is looking at such things as where people vote, whether they mostly use Minnesota bank accounts and whether they go to the doctor here or in another state. Accountants and lawyers are advising clients who want to avoid Minnesota tax to sell local property and businesses if possible, and definitely to spend less time here than wherever they plan to claim as their new home state.

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: dayton; democrats; fleeingtyranny; income; mn; tax; taxes
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To: TurboZamboni

Can’t wait to leave. Two months and counting.


21 posted on 04/19/2014 10:12:24 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: nascarnation

IIRC, MN is now is 4th highest in the US.


22 posted on 04/19/2014 10:15:39 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Guess they’ll just stay in Florida then.

Not all.

We will get a lot here in NC as "half-backs".

They move south to Florida, discover that it is hot in the summer and then move half-way back to the North...

"Half-backs"

23 posted on 04/19/2014 10:40:44 AM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: TurboZamboni

Given the typical 183 day residency rule, what happens if one has three residences in three different States. Can one be not a resident of any State of territory?


24 posted on 04/19/2014 10:47:38 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: TurboZamboni

Given the typical 183 day residency rule, what happens if one has three residences in three different States. Can one be not a resident of any State or territory?


25 posted on 04/19/2014 10:47:48 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Gen.Blather

Actually you only end up with an issue in CA during the year of split residency. I was transferred to MD from CA. I documented how much was earned in each state and filed appropriately. It helped that it was a clean break (no residual houses, cars, or voting). I kept a small account open by accident, but that was not a problem. I had adequate documentation to show that I had clearly moved.

What I did see in CA was people working in CA and declaring legal residency in NV. It works pretty well if you follow the checklists and behave yourself.


26 posted on 04/19/2014 11:19:15 AM PDT by Starwolf
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To: Mr. Jeeves
NAFTA = FATCA. Typing skills problem this morning... :)
27 posted on 04/19/2014 11:54:44 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL-GALT-DELETE])
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To: Paladin2

Unlike moving to a foreign country, establishing residency in Puerto Rico has some tax edges.


28 posted on 04/19/2014 12:01:53 PM PDT by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: Paladin2

http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc901.html


29 posted on 04/19/2014 12:03:11 PM PDT by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: TurboZamboni

bookmark


30 posted on 04/19/2014 12:07:51 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is)
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To: TurboZamboni

My company tracks my labor hours by zip code and allocates
state income tax accordingly. I’m an Idaho resident.
That’s where my home, family, property and voting
is done. California gets a large portion of state
income taxes. Nebraska will get some this year as
well. The multi-state income tax filing is a real
pain in the butt.


31 posted on 04/19/2014 1:28:16 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: TurboZamboni

First of all, THANKS to you TurboZ for keeping us updated on MN.

MN has to keep their Somali population on bennies by sharing the snowbird monies.


32 posted on 04/19/2014 2:22:51 PM PDT by SgtHooper (I lost my tag!)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Which of the three states you mentioned are you referring to as the Gay Syate?


33 posted on 04/19/2014 2:27:01 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is)
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To: gitmo

Massatwoshits.


34 posted on 04/19/2014 2:34:27 PM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: TurboZamboni

Why would they live in Minnesota?


35 posted on 04/19/2014 2:35:40 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: TurboZamboni

Combine that high tax scenario with global cooling and you have a recipe for declining population....


36 posted on 04/19/2014 2:37:40 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Arizona.......


37 posted on 04/19/2014 2:39:51 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Chode

You and I agree. Where you vote is where you should live......and it is where you should pay taxes


38 posted on 04/19/2014 4:58:58 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: grania

If you have multiple places that you have a place to lay your head a night you are more than ‘upper poor’. Most folks IF they even get to retire have one place they call home.... not one for the summer and one for the winter


39 posted on 04/19/2014 5:00:43 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I didn’t say it was about rich and poor. I did suggest that some folks have enough money to do as they wish.... and if you one a home for summer and a home for winter (which is what snow birds do) then you are in the status of having enough to do what you want. You are not eating casseroles, deciding whether you have enough to go to the doc, or any of a dozen other things. Understand clearly, I am not complaining about the fact that these folks have worked hard to get to where they are. they have used legal means to do so. My comments were meant to indicate that there is a difference between what is legal and what is ethical.

To bring NAFTA into this discussion is so far off the wall I won’t even comment on it.


40 posted on 04/19/2014 5:04:37 PM PDT by Nifster
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