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Western lawmakers gather in Utah to talk federal land takeover
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | April 18, 2014 | By Kristen Moulton

Posted on 04/19/2014 10:50:26 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

It’s time for Western states to take control of federal lands within their borders, lawmakers and county commissioners from Western states said at Utah’s Capitol on Friday.

More than 50 political leaders from nine states convened for the first time to talk about their joint goal: wresting control of oil-, timber -and mineral-rich lands away from the feds.

"It’s simply time," said Rep. Ken Ivory, R-West Jordan, who organized the Legislative Summit on the Transfer for Public Lands along with Montana state Sen. Jennifer Fielder. "The urgency is now."

Utah House Speaker Becky Lockhart, R-Provo, was flanked by a dozen participants, including her counterparts from Idaho and Montana, during a press conference after the daylong closed-door summit. U.S. Sen. Mike Lee addressed the group over lunch, Ivory said. New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Wyoming, Oregon and Washington also were represented.

The summit was in the works before this month’s tense standoff between Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and the Bureau of Land Management over cattle grazing, Lockhart said.

"What’s happened in Nevada is really just a symptom of a much larger problem," Lockhart said.

(Excerpt) Read more at sltrib.com ...


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Idaho; US: Montana; US: Nevada; US: New Mexico; US: Oregon; US: Texas; US: Utah; US: Washington; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: blm; bundy; bundyranch; federalland; harryreid; nevada; publicland; reid; statesrights; utah
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To: Zeneta

You must not have comprehended my post (It was carefully thought out and precise. You must give it careful though to fully understand it). When I described grizzlies, I stipulated only those “in the wild”. Captive animals in zoos and public parks are a completely different case.


41 posted on 04/19/2014 5:13:19 PM PDT by fision
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To: cutty

There are a few other interesting facts about grizzles. In Alaska, their diet is limited to fish, mostly salmon which are easy to catch. In the Continental US, they prefer fruits and vegetable, as well as fish. They are not predators, except on absentee fathers and their bastardized children. They do not eat this prey themselves, they leave that to wolves who co-exist in their habit.

In general, grizzlies bear no malice against other animals, including humans, except those who may have tried to injure them in the past - they are very intelligent and have excellent memories.

(Source: Montana FWP Grizzly and Wolves Habitat; Pocatello ID Zoo, and others)


42 posted on 04/19/2014 5:13:19 PM PDT by fision
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To: fision
Grizzlies are actually very friendly, gentle creature in the wild and only turn aggressive when threatened. We should just stay out their way and ban hunting in that beautiful heaven on earth!

Why, yes, they are. Look, for example at this one! He's just coming up for a little ear rub. No need to panic.

We could ban hunting in those parks, yes, but somebody is going to have to tell the bears.

43 posted on 04/19/2014 5:16:23 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Zeneta

LOL!!! I’ll second that one.


44 posted on 04/19/2014 5:19:55 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Jim Robinson
The lawmakers and governor said they were only asking the federal government to make good on promises made in the 1894 Enabling Act for Utah to become a state.

I don't doubt that states may be able to manage the land but I'm not sure what they mean. From Section 3 of the Enabling Act: "That the people inhabiting said proposed State do agree and declare that they forever disclaim all right and title to the unappropriated public lands lying within the boundaries thereof; and to all lands lying within said limits owned or held by any Indian or Indian tribes; and that until the title thereto shall have been extinguished by the United States, the same shall be and remain subject to the disposition of the United States, and said Indian lands shall remain under the absolute jurisdiction and control of the Congress of the United States..."

Utah Enabling Act

45 posted on 04/19/2014 5:40:53 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: piytar

So you would do away with all national parks?


46 posted on 04/19/2014 5:43:49 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

> So you would do away with all national parks?

Apparently recent events haven’t taught you much.

First, why does Fedzilla need to own so much land, more than 80% of the states of Utah and Nevada, for example.

Second, given the heavy-handed behavior of the Fedzilla JBTs, who would even want any of them in their state?


47 posted on 04/19/2014 5:55:14 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Billthedrill

Grizzlies are naturally curious, very intelligent, and just like a child and the grizzly in the video, keep testing the limits looking for the weak points. This particular bear is frightened by the stick and by the shouts to get away. I don’t know whether the guy taunting the bear lived or died - it could have gone either way.


48 posted on 04/19/2014 6:42:58 PM PDT by fision
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To: DoodleDawg

Yes.


49 posted on 04/19/2014 6:59:34 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: fision

Remember your little brass dinner bells ... so that predators that eat meat like bears, wolves, and lions can find you easier.

http://www.parkcountysheriff.net/news_33_978950629.pdf


50 posted on 04/19/2014 8:42:31 PM PDT by cutty
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To: fision

She could hear its teeth going through my skull’: Woman who survived horrifying bear mauling .. as she pleaded for help, screaming, ‘Please, my kids need me.’

Terri Frana broke down in tears during an interview during which she revealed the moment she thought she was going to die during a bear attack ..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2604001/The-bear-wifes-head-mouth-Woman-mauled-garage-went-trash-FIVE-bears-digging-garbage.html


51 posted on 04/19/2014 9:18:47 PM PDT by cutty
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To: cherokee1

I would suggest a simple tactic...force redrawing of basic maps. Exclude all of these federal areas from state maps, and make the state appear as it should. Once you do that to a dozen states....especially Arizona and California...it starts to generate stupid questions even from Democrats. We could even suggest that once you have X amount of federal space...it requires a governor to run that federal property within that state....appointed by the President over each state’s federal property. This ties in military reservations, Indian property, forest property, BLM, national parks, etc....to report to that one guy. This tactic alone...might scare enough of the Democrats to drop the size of the ownership.


52 posted on 04/19/2014 11:19:47 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: fision
We should just stay out their way and ban hunting in that beautiful heaven on earth!

Welcome to Montana. Now go home.

53 posted on 04/19/2014 11:32:17 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: fision; Billthedrill
[...] This particular bear is frightened by the stick and by the shouts to get away.

Your comments are nuttier than a rat turd in a pistachio factory.

54 posted on 04/19/2014 11:44:39 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: cutty

I am very familiar with the USGS Interagency Grizzly Bear Study Team (IGBST) in Bozeman, Montana, having been there to study their animals and methods. They capture grizzlies and use tem as show. They put the grizzlies in captivity and treat them as zoo animals. Consequently the grizzlies try to escape back to their natural habitat, which is the local environment, and become defensive and aggressive.


55 posted on 04/20/2014 2:42:38 AM PDT by fision
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To: cutty

Check out this smart, dexterous grizzly as he steels a dumpster from a restaurant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPfuDKDXPZc


56 posted on 04/20/2014 2:42:39 AM PDT by fision
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To: cutty

The bear in Florida was a black bear, not a grizzly. Bears in Florida are black bears and conform to different rules. They like meat and their natural prey, wild pigs and certain types of ducks, have been eradicated by hunting and culling.


57 posted on 04/20/2014 2:42:39 AM PDT by fision
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To: fision

Are you serious? Who taught you this asinine, stupid, juvenile hippie bunk? Stay in the city if you want to live.


58 posted on 04/20/2014 6:43:34 AM PDT by ecomcon
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