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Scalia To Student: If Taxes Go Too High ‘Perhaps You Should Revolt’
WNEW-FM ^ | April 18, 2014

Posted on 04/19/2014 12:17:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Knoxville, Tenn. (CBS DC) – Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia told a crowd of law school students that if taxes in the U.S. become too high then people “should revolt.”

Speaking at the University of Tennessee College of Law on Tuesday, the longest-serving justice currently on the bench was asked by a student about the constitutionality of the income tax, the Knoxville News Sentinel reports.

Scalia responded that the government has the right to implement the tax, “but if it reaches a certain point, perhaps you should revolt.”(continued)

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: antoninscalia; banglist; revolt; scalia; scotus; supremecourt; taxes; tennessee
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Indeed.
1 posted on 04/19/2014 12:17:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It ain’t just the taxes... and the Tree of Liberty is as dry as a bone.


2 posted on 04/19/2014 12:21:44 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bang!


3 posted on 04/19/2014 12:22:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is a natural and logical eventuality in the social contract is it not? It should be what gives our leaders ‘pause’ when they dream up increases in taxes.


4 posted on 04/19/2014 12:23:38 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sadly the only revolt likely to happen will be in favor of taking more of other peoples’ money and redistributing it.


5 posted on 04/19/2014 12:24:55 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
Harvard Law School-indoctrinated Justice Scalia had a golden opportunity to tell the students about Justice John Marshall's official clarification of Congess limited power to lay taxes - and Scalia blew it.
“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

6 posted on 04/19/2014 12:32:16 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Tom Jefferson; BuckeyeTexan; Neil E. Wright; B4Ranch; xzins; Ray76; DaxtonBrown; ...

When an originalist Justice of the Supreme Court says it’s time, it’s time.


7 posted on 04/19/2014 12:32:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And then Judge Scalia casually said to no one in particular; “Will no one rid me of this bothersome Tyranny?


8 posted on 04/19/2014 12:36:49 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Jim Robinson
Amen! On that Note Id like to Announce My Choice for the Domestic Terrorist of the Year Award!!



Former Boxer. Former Human Being.... Aunt Harry Reid!
9 posted on 04/19/2014 12:37:33 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Scalia responded that the government has the right to implement the tax, “but if it reaches a certain point, perhaps you should revolt.”

I can see the liberals/progressives/Marxists collective heads exploding.

For the record, it's not just taxes...

5.56mm

10 posted on 04/19/2014 12:37:36 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Jim Robinson

Just had the mental image of Scalia going pugilist on some idiots, ear to ear grin while laughing.
Agreed, bump!


11 posted on 04/19/2014 12:37:40 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Bump that.


12 posted on 04/19/2014 12:38:15 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: M Kehoe
For the record, it's not just taxes...


13 posted on 04/19/2014 12:40:29 PM PDT by humblegunner
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Never surrender!! Never retreat!! Never give up your guns!!

The Marxists/fascists jackbooted goons will not be allowed to stamp out freedom!!

NOT ON MY WATCH!!

14 posted on 04/19/2014 12:42:17 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is in the Constitution.


15 posted on 04/19/2014 12:49:28 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I suppose this would make Antonin Scalia a “Domestic Terrorist”, and he’ll find himself on a ‘no fly’ list.


16 posted on 04/19/2014 12:50:11 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Amendment10

Good point.

Unfortunately, the 16the amendment explicitly allows for income tax to be levied. And realistically, the tax money collected is spent on whatever the president, Congress, or bureaucrats want to spend it on.


17 posted on 04/19/2014 12:52:36 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (Im)
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To: KoRn

Revolution can be peaceful. THink Constitutional Convention.


18 posted on 04/19/2014 12:55:19 PM PDT by gwgn02
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To: Jim Robinson

WWSD?

I just voted for a Christian Texas Appeals Court Judge who wears a bracelet (when he’s on the bench) that says this.

(What Would Scalia Do?)


19 posted on 04/19/2014 12:56:10 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

“A Revolution now and then helps to clear the air.” (Thomas Jefferson)


20 posted on 04/19/2014 1:02:11 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Last line of the article:Amen judge!
21 posted on 04/19/2014 1:04:17 PM PDT by upchuck (Support ABLE, the Anybody But Lindsey Effort. Yes, we are the ABLE!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What about tyranny, Judge?

What should we do about that?


22 posted on 04/19/2014 1:15:03 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

Whoa. Justice Scalia must have a very clean closet indeed to speak such a truth in this age of tyranny, unprecedented domestic surveillance, and the unrestrained lawlessness of every single government agency. Stay safe, Mr. Justice.


23 posted on 04/19/2014 1:28:08 PM PDT by lonevoice (We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality)
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To: Amendment10
Some other FReeper (can't remember who it was) pointed out the other day
that the main thing about the 16th amendment wasn't the "tax on income"
but that a federal tax, for the first time ever,
could be levied upon an individual citizen.
Up until that time, there was very little interaction
between an individual citizen and the federal government.

AMENDMENT XVI
Note: Article I, section 9, of the Constitution was modified by amendment 16.
"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes,
from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States,
and without regard to any census or enumeration."

"Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes ... without regard to any census or enumeration.
24 posted on 04/19/2014 1:31:01 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Wonder if Scalia is hinting that the Ballot box may no longer be a solution due to the near complete corruption of all three branches of government.
25 posted on 04/19/2014 1:34:16 PM PDT by The Cajun (tea party!!!, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, at this point, if we don’t get an acceptable outcome from a limited Convention of States or a “radical” anti-government POTUS, then, yes, states should begin nullifying unconstitutional federal law, begin severing financial ties with the feds, and move to low, flat taxes and the free market. Pretty soon, that state will be richer than the federal government.


26 posted on 04/19/2014 1:38:05 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Jim Robinson

Are we at the tipping point?
It feels like we are past the tipping point.


27 posted on 04/19/2014 1:41:53 PM PDT by mylife
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To: The Cajun

November of 2012 election results proved that. Dead people voting, precinct captains verbally harrassed and literally thrown out of the ballot office if they were seen as likely Republican on Tea. Look at how loudly the Dems howl about voter ID cards. They do not want to give up that easy gravy train. The corruption is baked deeply within the cake.


28 posted on 04/19/2014 1:44:09 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Dilbert San Diego; All
... Unfortunately, the 16the amendment explicitly allows for income tax to be levied.

While I would support repeal of 16A because it ignores other tax-related constitutional clauses imo, I actually don't have problems with it for the following reason. 16A doesn't constitute an excuse for Congress to ignore its limited power to lay taxes, imo, which I indicated in previous post.

In fact, I think that the states should amend Justice Marshall's clarification of Congress's limited power to lay taxes to the Constitution where corrupt Congress can continue to ignore it. /sarc

29 posted on 04/19/2014 1:46:17 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: mylife
It feels like we are past the tipping point.

We are. Some of us are waiting on the rest of us to CATCH the *%+# UP!

Slackers. Heh.

30 posted on 04/19/2014 1:47:47 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: lee martell; The Cajun
November of 2012 election results proved that. Dead people voting, precinct captains verbally harrassed and literally thrown out of the ballot office if they were seen as likely Republican on Tea. Look at how loudly the Dems howl about voter ID cards. They do not want to give up that easy gravy train. The corruption is baked deeply within the cake.

Ever think that if in casual conversation you mentioned to these people, "I'm so unsure about voting in the next election, I don't know if my vote will count" would they HASTEN to reassure you that yes indeed your vote DOES count, and then they might pause and ask, "What is your party registration?" as a way of checking?

31 posted on 04/19/2014 1:49:15 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: chris37

The Taxation has almost become a side matter.
It is the tyranny that is out of control.

Threats of taxes, threats of fines, threats of jail, threats of murder.


32 posted on 04/19/2014 1:49:59 PM PDT by mylife
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Lurking Libertarian; Perdogg; JDW11235; Clairity; Spacetrucker; Art in Idaho; ...

FReepmail me to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the SCOTUS ping list.

33 posted on 04/19/2014 1:50:48 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Well, at this point, if we don’t get an acceptable outcome from a limited Convention of States or a “radical” anti-government POTUS, then, yes, states should begin nullifying unconstitutional federal law, begin severing financial ties with the feds, and move to low, flat taxes and the free market. Pretty soon, that state will be richer than the federal government.


34 posted on 04/19/2014 1:54:03 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I was reluctant to jump on Cliven Bundy’s side, but what has become very obvious is this Gov is out of control.


35 posted on 04/19/2014 2:02:14 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Jim Robinson

36 posted on 04/19/2014 2:02:22 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Repeal The 17th; All
... Note: Article I, section 9, of the Constitution was modified by amendment 16.

As mentioned in related threads, it remains that before 16A was ratified, the Supreme Court had clarified that Congress cannot lay taxes in the name of state power issues, essentially any issue which Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers.

“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

Also mentioned elsewhere, not only is the Court's clarification of Congress's limited power to lay taxes still in effect imo, but the states need to amend Justice Marshall's statement to the Constitution where corrupt Congress can continue to ignore it. /sarc

37 posted on 04/19/2014 2:03:19 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Said "Tree of Liberty":
38 posted on 04/19/2014 2:16:44 PM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: mylife

So was I. I was one of the loudest here telling people to be cautious about picking his hill to die on.


39 posted on 04/19/2014 2:17:02 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: PapaNew

Agreed. I am willing to give Levin’s Liberty Amendments a go. Failing that, it’s past time to cut ties or go to Washington to physically and peacefully remove the beasts from their lair.


40 posted on 04/19/2014 2:20:21 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

And there is the rub.
The Gubermint is regrouping but we are still alive, and they look like the thugs they are.


41 posted on 04/19/2014 2:21:32 PM PDT by mylife
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To: joethedrummer

42 posted on 04/19/2014 2:25:01 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Jim Robinson

Wow! Sounds like the patriot call to me!


43 posted on 04/19/2014 2:25:03 PM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos! Thank you David, Michael, Chris Txradioguy, JJ, CMS, & ALL Vets, too!l)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Well, yes, except if the C of C fails, I’m for marching politically (with the right candidates (harder and harder to find), of course, but not necessarily militarily on Washington, if that’s what you meant. I’m rather for states making incremental moves to become independent of Washington DC beginning with financial independence.


44 posted on 04/19/2014 2:25:29 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: humblegunner

Newp....


45 posted on 04/19/2014 2:26:56 PM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos! Thank you David, Michael, Chris Txradioguy, JJ, CMS, & ALL Vets, too!l)
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To: PapaNew

There’s no need to march militarily on D.C.


46 posted on 04/19/2014 2:33:52 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: mylife

This is from Rand Paul via Fox News. Notice Reid is keeping the government from functioning and solving problems

“...He said there’s a legitimate constitutional question about whether the feds or the states should be responsible for endangered species. Paul believes the Endangered Species Act “has been abused across America” and is a prime example of “government overreach.”

Paul cited some odd examples of how the Endangered Species Act has been enforced in his home state of Kentucky.

“Nobody in Washington really knows anything about ranching or grazing cattle,” said Paul, adding that he proposed a bill last year in the Senate that would give states more control over land and the preservation of species. Paul called on Harry Reid to at least allow a vote on the measure in the Senate.....”

Talk about out of control. Ethics charges should be brought against him asap


47 posted on 04/19/2014 3:00:02 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I used to have a button that said,

TAXES ARE REVOLTING.
WHY AREN’T YOU?


48 posted on 04/19/2014 3:07:38 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
No, but I wasn't sure what you meant when you said march on Washington.

To me it looks like the Right, in not being clear about who the #1 enemy is (big government), may bicker themselves right out of the 2016 election. If the electoral process fails and the Convention of States fails, then the only option I see is individual states (Texas, don't know who else) taking action to nullify and steps to become financially independent of Washington DC.

49 posted on 04/19/2014 3:19:17 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: gwgn02
"Revolution can be peaceful. THink Constitutional Convention."

Hogwash.

There is NO reason to think the Federal Gov't would honor new amendments any more than they do the original.

Do you really think that tiger will suddenly become spotted?

50 posted on 04/19/2014 3:19:43 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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