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Maher: Does U.S. Really Have Moral Authority to Lecture Putin About Human Rights?
mediaite.com ^ | April 11, 2014 | Josh Feldman

Posted on 04/19/2014 2:31:32 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Edited on 04/19/2014 3:03:30 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Bill Maher took on American “ignorance and belligerence” over Ukraine Friday night (the less Americans know about Ukraine’s location the more they want to invade it), and pointed to America’s prison system to argue that the U.S. has lost its moral authority to lecture anyone else, Vladimir Putinincluded, about human rights.


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1 posted on 04/19/2014 2:31:32 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Maybe there is a brain in there after all...


2 posted on 04/19/2014 2:32:24 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Tailgunner Joe

No more than Bill Maher has moral authority to hold forth on religion.


3 posted on 04/19/2014 2:33:01 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: jsanders2001

> Maher brought up religion to say that belief in the afterlife is “the most dangerous meme ever,” before arguing that “we have a hard time making the human rights case anymore like we once did,” pointing to crime statistics and America’s number one spot on the list of nations by incarceration numbers.

Don’t blame us when you die and find out you were wrong Maher. We tried to tell you but you would’t listen.


4 posted on 04/19/2014 2:36:05 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Our country is now run by immoral men of Maher’s generation and political leanings...so yes, we no longer have any right to lecture other nations.


5 posted on 04/19/2014 2:37:35 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL-GALT-DELETE])
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Does 0bama have the right to lecture about the US Constitution?


6 posted on 04/19/2014 2:37:47 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: jsanders2001

Oh well...maybe Maher will have a conversion and be your neighbor in Heaven.


7 posted on 04/19/2014 2:38:44 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Tailgunner Joe; jsanders2001; skeeter; Mr. Jeeves; Paladin2; Kackikat
"Matt Taibbi, meanwhile, was just depressed that there’s such near-constant talk of the U.S. getting into overseas conflicts."

Why? There is pretty much zero chance that he, or anyone he knows, would be involved in any conflict. John Edwards was right about one thing: There are two Americas. Taibbi and Maher's America never sacrifice anything.

8 posted on 04/19/2014 2:40:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Well Bill, let’s talk about the gulags


9 posted on 04/19/2014 2:41:34 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Kackikat

> Oh well...maybe Maher will have a conversion and be your neighbor in Heaven.

I would prefer no one go to hell though the liberals seem to bring a lot of it to earth everyday.


10 posted on 04/19/2014 2:48:09 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Tailgunner Joe

a thousand people die on the freeways in LA and it’s never this traitorous c#$#&sucker.


11 posted on 04/19/2014 2:48:39 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: AppyPappy

Not to take Maher’s side, but let’s talk also about slavery, genocide, eugenics, and abortion. We need to clean our own house before explaining to the rest of the world how it’s done.


12 posted on 04/19/2014 2:51:31 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Tailgunner Joe

In light of Waco, Ruby Ridge, Illian Gonzales, Bundy and many others, one has to give Maher his due on this one.


13 posted on 04/19/2014 2:51:49 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: jsanders2001
Maher brought up religion to say that belief in the afterlife is “the most dangerous meme ever,” before arguing that “we have a hard time making the human rights case anymore like we once did . . .

But the belief in an afterlife and a concomitant final judgement is the basis for all morality. As Dostoevsky said, if there is no God then everything is possible. That is to say, if there is no God and no final accounting for our actions, why recognize and respect anybody's rights? Why not just grab all that you can in this life without respect for others and when you lose or it's no fun anymore just "dash the cup to the ground" and commit suicide, like Ivan Karamazov said?

Atheists remind me of a Looney Tunes cartoon where Tweetie Bird is sitting on a branch of a tree as Sylvester the Cat is trying to catch him and eat him. Tweetie Bird pulls out a saw and saws off the branch he's sitting on but instead of him falling the tree falls with the hapless Sylvester in tow. All their talk about morality and human rights is a human tradition that grew from the mighty tree of religion, specifically Judaism and Christianity. They want to cut themselves off from that and somehow remain suspended forever at dizzying moral heights unsupported by any notion of ultimate human destiny, human responsibility, and meaning that transcends this life.

They're delusional.

How can any sane person view the mass murders of the atheistic Communists of the last 100 years and still entertain the notion that atheism is conducive to human rights?

He cares about human rights? American Christianity defeated African slavery. It defeated neo-Pagan Nazism and saved Europe. It defeated Japanese super-race imperialism. And it defeated Soviet Communism.

And I tell you truly, it will defeat the neo-Marxism that is Political Correctness, Environmentalism and the slaughter of abortion on demand.

14 posted on 04/19/2014 2:54:56 PM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The leftists love equivalency and relativism.

We have a moral high ground to lecture the land of the Soviets.

If Billie doesn’t think so he should live and work there.


15 posted on 04/19/2014 2:57:17 PM PDT by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.ha)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What moral authority does Maher have to criticize America?


16 posted on 04/19/2014 3:01:47 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Friggin’ America hating commies at every turn. Bite me, Maher. Sorry sack of dung.


17 posted on 04/19/2014 3:02:42 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Gluteus Maximus

> And I tell you truly, it will defeat the neo-Marxism that is Political Correctness, Environmentalism and the slaughter of abortion on demand.

I wish Jesus had said that. Would have come in handy if he had...lol


18 posted on 04/19/2014 3:06:44 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Mr. Jeeves

One Dimensional Maher.

Gay ‘rights’ defines all other issues.


19 posted on 04/19/2014 3:30:21 PM PDT by bakeneko
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To: Tailgunner Joe

He’s right for the wrong reasons.

We lost our morality when defending Islam and Sodomites became the focus of our foreign policy.


20 posted on 04/19/2014 3:32:13 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Romulus

We ended slavery, we didn’t start it, we never practiced genocide, abortion is global.

Do you know how many millions the Russians have murdered and enslaved?


21 posted on 04/19/2014 3:35:59 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Romulus
We need to clean our own house before explaining to the rest of the world how it’s done.

Uh, how about both? Surely in the aggregate we are capable of multitasking.

22 posted on 04/19/2014 3:40:49 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: chajin

What’s in it for a country to side with the US these days?

Getting lectured on how “global warming” is the greatest threat to mankind.

Being forced to accept sodomy as normal and healthy.

Making sure that Muslims are not discriminated against.


23 posted on 04/19/2014 3:43:15 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I think not. We strike people dead with drones - including our own citizens - for any reason that we (in secret) decide makes them a terrorist. That is just the tip of the iceberg. Plus we’re led by a gay muslim who was born overseas...


24 posted on 04/19/2014 3:58:37 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Tailgunner Joe
odd coming from something with all the moral fiber of a goat...
25 posted on 04/19/2014 4:02:21 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Maher always takes the easiest liberal viewpoint that feeds his oversized ego. Hate America first, and attack Christians. He is the ultimate spoiled, self-centered, ungrateful brat in a grownup’s body—with a big nose.


26 posted on 04/19/2014 4:25:31 PM PDT by Avid Coug
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To: jsanders2001

Bill Maher may have swerved into s powerful insight here, but not for the reasons he would deem relevant. The territory now under the governance of the Current Regime, that was once known as “the United States of America”, clearly lacks much of anything that could be called “moral authority”.

They write laws that do not address the problems they claim to, they ignore existing law, and they even selectively enforce the laws they write themselves. The Current Occupant now squatting in the White Hut makes brave announcements that this red line is not to be crossed, then like disappearing ink, miraculously, the red line just disappears, and not much of anything is changed, except there is now an excuse to call for a NEW red line to be exercised yet again.

And will be ignored gain.


27 posted on 04/19/2014 4:26:57 PM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: All

28 posted on 04/19/2014 4:38:59 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Even a blind pig (or Bill Maher) finds an acorn occasionally!


29 posted on 04/19/2014 6:02:05 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (If His Arrogance knows where his BC is, why did he have to hire someone to Photoshop a new one?)
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To: ansel12

We not only practiced genocide, we made a president of of of its foremost practitioners. You might have a picture of him in your wallet right now.


30 posted on 04/20/2014 2:33:16 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Quick. Someone remind me of this BM’s bona fides to opine about anything. Graduating Klown Kollege does not count.


31 posted on 04/20/2014 2:41:41 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Romulus

No, the United States has never practiced genocide, and that is a pretty insane thing to think.


32 posted on 04/20/2014 2:50:03 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

Tell it to the Indians.


33 posted on 04/20/2014 2:58:02 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus

Lord knows there are plenty of them since the United States government never created a genocide to exterminate them.


34 posted on 04/20/2014 3:00:26 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There is pretty much zero chance that he, or anyone he knows, would be involved in any conflict.

That's not entirely true. Russia isn't some Middle East backwater where we'd send a carrier strikegroup and a handful of troops to do the fighting while the rest of America sits home and watches football on TV. We decide to engage in a war with Russia and everyone's going to be involved --whether they want to or not.

35 posted on 04/20/2014 3:09:36 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

By “involved” I mean in uniform and I stand by my statement.


36 posted on 04/20/2014 3:11:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: ansel12

The historical record is undeniable. You’re entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.


37 posted on 04/20/2014 4:14:33 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus

Exactly, the historical record is that there has never been a genocidal policy by the United States toward any group.

Very few Indians were ever killed by the government in combat, very few.


38 posted on 04/20/2014 6:20:08 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

I’m sure we can take comfort in reflecting that the Jews who died in boxcars on their way to the death camps aren’t victims of genocide, since they only died from forced relocation under cruel conditions, and not direct killing.

Genocide is committed also by systematic destruction of a culture. Read up on the Indian Removal Act, which was federal law. Cowboys and Indians is a kid’s game. Grow up.


39 posted on 04/20/2014 7:20:06 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus

Well, troll, you don’t seem able to find this policy of extermination of the Indian by the United States, and bringing up death camps and Jews and Nazis doesn’t cut it.

If we had a policy of genocide and were trying to eliminate the race, what mass murder methods were we using, and why would we be giving them their own reservations, and when did we change the genocide policy?


40 posted on 04/20/2014 7:30:51 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Romulus

I would also like to know the results of the genocide, how many Indians do you think the United States government executed?


41 posted on 04/20/2014 7:33:11 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

Troll? Is that all you got?


42 posted on 04/20/2014 7:53:22 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus

Obviously not, read posts 40 and 41 and answer the questions, you can’t just keep repeating your silly claim as proof of something that isn’t true.


43 posted on 04/20/2014 8:09:19 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: jsanders2001
I wish Jesus had said that. Would have come in handy if he had...lol

He said that the gates of hell shall not prevail against his Church. Victory is certain.

44 posted on 04/22/2014 5:12:32 PM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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