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JUSTICE SCALIA: 'FOOLISH' TO HAVE THE SUPREME COURT DECIDE IF NSA WIRETAPPING IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL
Breitbart.tv ^ | 4/19/2014 | Pam Key

Posted on 04/19/2014 2:49:04 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan

Thursday in an interview conducted at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., Justices Antonin Scalia and Ruth Bader Ginsburg talked about their views of the First Amendment. Moderator Marvin Kalb questioned Scalia about whether the NSA wiretapping cloud be conceivably be in violation of the Constitution:

Justice Antonin Scalia said, "No because it's not absolute. As Ruth has said there are very few freedoms that are absolute. I mean your person is protected by the Fourth Amendment but as I pointed out when you board a plane someone can pass his hands all over your body that's a terrible intrusion, but given the danger that it's guarding against it's not an unreasonable intrusion. And it can be the same thing with acquiring this data that is regarded as effects. That's why I say its foolish to have us make the decision because I don't know how serious the danger is in this NSA stuff, I really don't."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antoninscalia; constitution; demagogicparty; marvinkalb; memebuilding; nsa; nsascandals; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; ruthbaderginsburg; scalia; scotus
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To: sagar

“It is funny that 99% of Free Republic was cheering for Patriot Act back then, calling libtards as anti-Americans for not going with the fed gubmint schemes.”

There were many of us who opposed the so called Patriot Act on this forum. I think 99% is a bit high, but yes there were many Freepers who supported it.


21 posted on 04/19/2014 3:26:03 PM PDT by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Sorry, Justice Scalia, but it’s a clear violation of the Fourth Amendment.


22 posted on 04/19/2014 3:27:13 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

“I don’t have an issue with the NSA spying on anyone outside of the United States. They have no business spying on American citizens on U.S. soil.”

Think of it this way: the toilet has overflowed and shit has started flowing; here you are saying that the shit should not touch the carpet.


23 posted on 04/19/2014 3:28:51 PM PDT by sagar
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To: chajin

There is nothing reasonable about the TSA or anything it does.


24 posted on 04/19/2014 3:30:47 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Baynative

Please remember that the Supreme Court has reversed more than 150 of earlier Supreme Court decisions on natural law. Is that what you would consider as someone being consistent and reliable in interpreting the Constitution?

“The Constitution is a written instrument. As such, it’s meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted. it means now”. So said the Supreme Court in South Carolina v United States in 1905


25 posted on 04/19/2014 3:32:26 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: sagar

I disagree with your analogy. The NSA has a duty to keep an eye on foreign interests who plot against us. We can’t prevent attacks on the homeland if we don’t know about them.

That duty does not outweigh the constitutional rights of American citizens.


26 posted on 04/19/2014 3:33:25 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: sagar

>>It is funny that 99% of Free Republic was cheering for Patriot Act back then, calling libtards as anti-Americans for not going with the fed gubmint schemes.<<

I was part of the 1% and I haven’t changed my opinion.


27 posted on 04/19/2014 3:33:48 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: TBP

Even if it weren’t, the 10th says we reserve the power to declare it unacceptable.


28 posted on 04/19/2014 3:36:13 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: B4Ranch

Me too. I remember Nixon too well.


29 posted on 04/19/2014 3:37:58 PM PDT by null and void (...if you are too sure of your place in heaven you might be too arrogant to actually get there.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

“The NSA has a duty to keep an eye on foreign interests who plot against us.”

The NSA think that they have a duty to keep an eye on all who might plot against us.

“We can’t prevent attacks on the homeland if we don’t know about them.”

That is why they are keeping an eye on everything, not just foreign activities.

“That duty does not outweigh the constitutional rights of American citizens.”

This is what I meant by shit and carpet analogy.


30 posted on 04/19/2014 3:38:00 PM PDT by sagar
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Would the judge agree that the government can open your mail before you receive it?


31 posted on 04/19/2014 3:43:12 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: Rodentking

He has been trending hard Statist for a while now.


32 posted on 04/19/2014 3:44:49 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Baynative

“I’m in a small minority that thinks the Supreme Court is ill equipped to make any decisions.”

I’m an attorney. I assure you they’re less equipped than you think. They’re more politician than judge, and have a propensity to ignore the law when it suits them.


33 posted on 04/19/2014 3:45:57 PM PDT by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: sagar
The NSA think that they have a duty to keep an eye on all who might plot against us.

They do ... if by "all" they mean those who aren't American citizens residing on U.S. soil.

34 posted on 04/19/2014 3:48:01 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: eyedigress

I doubt it.


35 posted on 04/19/2014 3:49:07 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Smedley

IANAL, but it does seem that the ability to duck, bob, and weave increases as the level of a Judge increases.


36 posted on 04/19/2014 3:50:31 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: chajin

Thanks for the link.


37 posted on 04/19/2014 3:51:21 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: sagar

after 9/11/01 the responsible agencies definitely needed to be restructured and George Bush was a good one to tackle the problem because he used the military and intelligence leaders to make it happen.

But, since then all sorts of changes incurred to make the system dangerous to the everyday citizen. As an example, when Bush left office, NSA could only monitor calls which had a foreign leg. Now both legs can be domestic. That is a big difference.


38 posted on 04/19/2014 3:58:06 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Amendment10

Jefferson is not a good person to quote....because he usually says the contrary someplace else.


39 posted on 04/19/2014 4:06:02 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: BuckeyeTexan

“They do ... if by “all” they mean those who aren’t American citizens residing on U.S. soil.”

All means all, not just foreign citizens. At least that is their rationale... once it was signed off, the bureaucratic agencies will have life of their own. Give them an inch...


40 posted on 04/19/2014 4:07:15 PM PDT by sagar
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