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Harper: Russia Is A Grave Threat To World
ottawacitizen.com ^ | April 14, 2014

Posted on 04/19/2014 2:58:21 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

OTTAWA – Russian actions against Ukraine are “aggressive, militaristic and imperialistic” and pose a grave threat to world peace, Prime Minister Stephen Harper said today.

Pro-Russian groups have occupied buildings in 10 cities in eastern Ukraine in recent days, prompting Harper to use his harshest words yet against what he called “Russian provocateurs sent by the Putin regime.”

It’s time to rally the world against the danger posed by Russian President Vladimir Putin, Harper said at a hastily assembled photo-op event with ambassadors from Ukraine, Estonia, Poland and Latvia.

“I know this is of great concern to our NATO allies in the region, but it should be a great concern to all of us,” Harper said.

“When a major power acts in a way that is so clearly aggressive, militaristic and imperialistic, this represents a significant threat to the peace and stability of the world and it’s time we all recognized the depth and the seriousness of that threat.”

He said he’s dispatching Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird to talk with allies in eastern Europe. Baird will then head on to the Middle East.Baird echoed the prime minister in blaming Russia for the latest events, scoffing: “I don’t know who the Russian federation thinks it’s kidding when it tries to pretend that it has nothing to do with them.”

“There are very clear and disconcerting parallels between what is happening in eastern Ukraine and events leading up to Russia’s illegal invasion and annexation of Crimea,” Baird continued, urging Russia to back down.

Canada is prepared to impose stronger sanctions against Putin’s regime, Harper said.

“But as I say, the most important thing we need to do is to rally all of our allies throughout the western world and throughout the greater global community to understand that peace and stability is being threatened here in a way that has not been threatened since the end of the Cold War.”

Putin is fighting history and will lose, he added.

“We also know from history that anybody who makes it their historical mission to turn the clock back, as Mr. Putin has determined to do, that those kinds of missions always fail in the end. But we will do all in our power to make it fail.”

Harper also paid tribute to the people of Ukraine, saying their determination to secure their freedom and independence has no limit.


TOPICS: Canada; Russia
KEYWORDS: canada; crimea; russia; stephenharper; ukraine

1 posted on 04/19/2014 2:58:21 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Thank God Stephen Harper is in this world.
How did we Elect Obama while Canada elected this man?


2 posted on 04/19/2014 3:01:03 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Tailgunner Joe

It’s time, folks, to put your cold war hats back on, because that’s what we’re in. The Soviet structures in Russia were never dismantled, their crimes never punished, and their enablers in the West never exposed and expelled. And this is the price we pay for that.


3 posted on 04/19/2014 3:02:01 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Harper is a good Prime Minister and a leader. Canada should be proud.


4 posted on 04/19/2014 3:05:47 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

BTTT


5 posted on 04/19/2014 3:06:27 PM PDT by kitkat (STORM HEAVEN WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY)
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To: mylife
Canada got lucky.

You would not believe how Harper is derided by parts of the press in Canada.

6 posted on 04/19/2014 3:07:27 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: Irenic

He is the Leader of the Free World.

Meanwhile, Obama is the Leader of the Free S—t World.


7 posted on 04/19/2014 3:08:04 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Yes I would.


8 posted on 04/19/2014 3:09:01 PM PDT by mylife
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To: All

Which is a greater threat to the world? An American president who is in cahoots with everyone who wants to destroy America? Muslims? Or Putin.


9 posted on 04/19/2014 3:12:21 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: dfwgator

Obama and Putin have both out grown their britches and are going to do great damage in the world. Can’t stand either of them.


10 posted on 04/19/2014 3:15:32 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Irenic

Harper is one of the few adults on the world stage.


11 posted on 04/19/2014 3:16:50 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

The only thing about your theory is that Russia’s defense budget is now third place in the world.

China’s is larger.

And China’s still communist. Just saying. Bring back American manufacturing.

Now.


12 posted on 04/19/2014 3:18:22 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: dfwgator

Indeed. I hope he’s ready to shoulder a lot because we are going to need him. Prayers up.


13 posted on 04/19/2014 3:20:39 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

We can’t win a cold war without it.


14 posted on 04/19/2014 3:22:34 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Our leader


15 posted on 04/19/2014 3:28:58 PM PDT by wardaddy (america was lost about the time black thugs appropriated cafe bikes as social status)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Who told you that there is only one threat at a time.


16 posted on 04/19/2014 3:32:08 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: cripplecreek

I agree 100%.

America sent a whole heck of a lot of American manufacturing to China.

China stepped in enthusiatically, and for some years this has been a mutually beneficial relationship.

No more. China now out-exports America. China continues to grow at a rapid pace.

China does not allow international investment in China, all investment must be through Chinese interests. And even land is off-limits to foreigners.

We need to start making things ourselves once again.

Russia is not the threat it once was.

Wake up people. We need to bring manufacturing back from China.

China is the country to watch. Big-time.

We have built our entire military being it seems, on being against Russia. All of our military build-up since WWII has been focused primarily on Russia.

It is hardly a surprize that everyone is still watching Russia with big eyes, watching their every move.

The thing is. Russia is now being eclipsed by China.

Right now. China’s military budget is now almost double Russia’s. China runs the largest military budget in the world, after America.

America ran a 440 billion / 122 billion trade deficit with China just last year.

We cannot continue that.


17 posted on 04/19/2014 3:32:10 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Why doesn’t Russia attack the border areas of China?


18 posted on 04/19/2014 3:38:07 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You win cold wars with money and superior material. short of selling the unicorn ranch I don’t see us finding the money to do either.


19 posted on 04/19/2014 3:40:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; ...
To all- please ping me to Canadian topics.

Canada Ping!

20 posted on 04/19/2014 3:41:13 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; All

Russia and Canada have had a running issue about rights to Arctic Oil and Gas for about 3 years now.

And just Yesterday:

Russia Ships The World’s First Load of Offshore Arctic Oil

NOVO-OGARYOVO, Russia, April 18 (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin hailed Russia’s first shipment of Arctic offshore oil on Friday, saying the platform decried by environmentalists will help Moscow expand its global energy markets share.

Gazprom Neft, the oil arm of Russia’s top gas producer Gazprom, shipped the first 70,000 tonnes of oil by tanker from the Prirazlomnoye platform, the site of a protest by 30 Greenpeace activists who were arrested last year.

The launch of oil production in the Arctic, seen by Russia as one of the key sources in the gradual replacement of output from its depleted West Siberian fields, has long been delayed due to cost overruns and technical difficulties.

“This, in essence, is the beginning of great and large-scale extraction of minerals and oil by our country in the Arctic,” Putin said, speaking from his residence outside Moscow via a video link with workers at the platform, including Gazprom’s head Alexei Miller.

“The whole project will positively influence Russia’s future presence on the global energy markets and will strengthen both the whole economy and the energy sector,” said Putin, who personally oversees all the major energy projects in country.


21 posted on 04/19/2014 3:43:05 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: cripplecreek

The problem is both of our political parties have been sold out to China.

Both of them. Completely.

Starting in the Bush years, the trade deficit became terrible. And it’s gotten worse under Obama.

Both parties are selling out America.

Someone needs to turn around, make a decision and start to do things for America once again.

I really worry, it will eventually be Democrats who finally stand up and do something.

That will be tragic.

Republicans, really really need to stand up for America.

For real. Now.


22 posted on 04/19/2014 3:47:07 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Our government is a grave threat to the American people, tell you what, give me back my Republic and I`ll give a sh!t about the world.


23 posted on 04/19/2014 4:03:53 PM PDT by nomad
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Oh, I read (for some reason) Macleans, and you would think that Justin Trudeau was Jesus denied his rightful place as ruler of Earth, and Harper was robing old ladies in Ottawa every night.


24 posted on 04/19/2014 4:14:50 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Former Proud Canadian

We did get lucky.

His support of Israel makes me so glad that he’s ours.


25 posted on 04/19/2014 4:33:16 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I like Harper. I would take him for US prez over many if not most of our current contenders. I even joke with my Canuk nephew that the US will simply “take” Harper as our prez. He said that would not be right or possible but I ask him exactly how it is his country would stop us if we really wanted to “take” his PM.

Which is my point here. Every small country that under-spends on defense while relying on the US to ride to its rescue, should the SHTF, is now clamoring for the US to stand up to Putin. Harper is sadly in that category.

Ukraine has had a decade to get ready for this day. They did not prepare for it and even to this day do not seem willing to sacrifice their own blood or treasure in their own self-defense. They seem to think defense can be outsourced.

Canada had better bulk up its defenses and even consider acquiring a few nukes. If not the kiss the Arctic resources goodbye. The US will not help. But is better to have Obama in charge of Arctic resources or a “drill here drill now even if I have to steal it” Putin?


26 posted on 04/19/2014 4:38:46 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: VanDeKoik

What’s wrong with robing old ladies? :)


27 posted on 04/19/2014 4:38:49 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Tailgunner Joe

For over 70 years we’ve been told that fears of Soviet Communism were overblown. That US imperialism was the threat in the world, that Communist Imperialism was just nations (like Cuba, China, Russia) helping other countries (like Vietnam).


28 posted on 04/19/2014 4:48:51 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: Tailgunner Joe

One of few western leaders still making some sense, too bad Canada is not a major power.


29 posted on 04/19/2014 5:09:04 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The beauty of running a totalitarian regime is that you can obfuscate or modify your own published numbers. I suspect both China and Russia engage a lot more of their money to nuclear weapons, and their military in general, than we are aware of. This we know with the Chinese, who routinely forge their economic numbers to such a degree that China watchers try to watch other factors to determine the actual growth of the Chinese economy.


30 posted on 04/19/2014 5:24:04 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Yanukovych stripped the Ukrainian military, most likely on Moscow’s order. It was also Moscow, in cohoots with the gullible west, which stole their nuclear weapons from them, protected by an “agreement,” which Lenin compared to pie crusts, “meant to be broken”. Do not blame the Ukrainians. Blame Russian disinformation, secret agents, and western weakness and shortsightedness.


31 posted on 04/19/2014 5:26:27 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: EEGator

I guess it does get cold up there. :P


32 posted on 04/19/2014 5:38:21 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Everything you say is true. But it does not absolve the Ukrainians from defending their country or at least trying to. They did not try to stop the looting of their country by Yanukovych or any of the other kleptocrats so why quibble now over the bones?


33 posted on 04/19/2014 5:44:07 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

~Yanukovych stripped the Ukrainian military, most likely on Moscow’s order~

At least a couple of pro-Western administrations before Yanukovysh did exactly the same. Most of the Ukrainian airforce wasn’t airworthy and navy could barely float by late 1990s, about a decade before he was elected.


34 posted on 04/19/2014 7:25:38 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: mylife

Tons of Canadians hate Harper and speak vile about him, mostly leftists heh.


35 posted on 04/19/2014 9:13:47 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: VerySadAmerican

Is there an all of the above answer?


36 posted on 04/19/2014 9:14:37 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Fred Nerks

OTTAWA – Russian actions against Ukraine are “aggressive, militaristic and imperialistic” and pose a grave threat to world peace, Prime Minister Stephen Harper said today. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Harper has reason to be a might touchy. Russia maintains two brigades of Russian Army troops in Russias far North
totalling 20,000 men.

If one reads the current poofter liberal based Security Assessment of Canada about the Russian Northern threat to Canada , its laughable given the current military expansionsim of Putin:

http://www.casr.ca/as-arctic-russian-risk-assessment.htm

The Russians are just a few short hours away from invading Canada via an open Northern Gateway, and there is not one thing Canada or anyone would be able to do to stop them.

Putin also has Harper by the short hairs, which is why he is squealing so much. Soon Harper will have to choose to continue Socailized medicine in Canada or to ramp up Canada’s military. Haroper does NOT want to have to make such a decision.Harper will continue to squeal.


37 posted on 04/20/2014 2:58:10 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Candor7

Canada is part of NATO and if Russia attacked them it would definitely start world war 3.


38 posted on 04/20/2014 8:53:29 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: JudyinCanada
I don't mean to be smug, but people do get the kind of government they deserve.

It has been a long hard slog. We had to destroy the PC's, build up Reform, merge them, and find this man to lead the country in some perilous times.

Canadians can thank their fellow citizens who were politically active enough to pull this off. This is one country where there is a clear, distinct difference in political parties.

For our American friends, please note. Stephen Harper is NOT a lawyer, a constitutional professor, a community organizer or even a career politician. He is an economist, and our economy is doing fine now.

39 posted on 04/20/2014 12:39:33 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Candor7

I think you are dead wrong. If recent wars in the middle east have taught us anything it is that air supremacy produces success on the ground. Russia would have NO air support for an invading army. I think NORAD (combined forces of the USAF and the RCAF) could handle any threat, for now.


40 posted on 04/20/2014 12:43:16 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: FreedomNotSafety
“They did not try to stop the looting of their country by Yanukovych”

Well, they did... the whole current crisis started from that.

41 posted on 04/20/2014 2:13:23 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: ansel12

I asked which is the “greater” threat? You would have to put Obama at #1 since he will allow muslims and putin to do all the damage they can.


42 posted on 04/20/2014 3:56:44 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Candor7
The RCAF just sent six CF-18s to Poland.

Yup, you're right, Putin has Harper on the run.

43 posted on 04/20/2014 5:25:33 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: VerySadAmerican

Greater threat? We can’t handle more than one issue at a time?

We ignore Obama’s weakness on military issues and foreign affairs in his dealings with Russian aggression why?


44 posted on 04/20/2014 6:34:13 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Canada is part of NATO and if Russia attacked them it would definitely start world war 3>>>>>>>>>>>>>

And who, pray tell, would fight on Canadas behalf? Hell, NATO is run not by generals but by ex-greenie weenies from the European Union organization, who will not even fight to defend themselves against Russia.Canada can’t go it alone only with a standing army of 100,000 regular soldiers that include a competely bilingual officer corps prepared to die in 2 languages. Its ludicrous.Canada will not fight. It will eventually have to submit unless the CAF are ramped up immediately.But that is NOT being done.

Obama would not commit to defending Canada without taking over Canada himself, and populating it with South Americans.


45 posted on 04/21/2014 2:35:32 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Former Proud Canadian; Fred Nerks

The RCAF just sent six CF-18s to Poland.
Yup, you’re right, Putin has Harper on the run.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Do not put words in my mouth. Harper is not on the run.

Harper is feeling threatened by Russia, as all Canadians should be. Obama is abandoning all the traditional allies of the USA, including Canada, Israel , Japan and Taiwan, as neocolonially exploited countries that need to go it alone so that Obama can give the money saved to his Community Organizers.

Russia has a permanant standing army of 2 brigades operating permanantly in Russia’s far North. Canada’s Artic is an open invitation, with NO defence. Harper was not responsible for the poofter security assessment on Russia, the socialist libs and NDP civil servants were.HORRIBLE!
It was used to NOT spend money on expanding the CAF.

Read it and weep, its outdated horribly, is so “cooperative” and “antisovereign”,it makes Neville Chamberlain’s traditional “Peace in Our Times” historical, liberal sell out a mere creampuff:

http://www.casr.ca/as-arctic-russian-risk-assessment.htm

But budgetarily Harper is between a rock and a hard place. He needs a whole division of Canadian troops in the Northern reaches of the Canadian Arctic, permanently based there, with a year round air base.

And Harper cannot afford to do that.So he has to talk big while carrying a very small stuck.

I am all for giving Harper a bigger stick, just drop the stupid bi-lingual policy of the CAF and use the money saved to build an FOB in the far North.

6 CF -18s in Poland? We need them in Quttinirpaaq National Park on the Northernmost tip of Ellesmere Island, but there is no way for them to land and operate there.All we have there is a seasonal station for greenie weenie federal civil servants who think they are Farley Mowat, to count the Puffin population. Harper will soon have to do something about that or he is toast, Putin will ream him a new ash haole, setting up a Russian FOB on Ellesmere Island before Harper and his opposition socialists can finish licking their arctic popsicles.The world just changed.


46 posted on 04/21/2014 2:46:13 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Former Proud Canadian; Fred Nerks

If recent wars in the middle east have taught us anything it is that air supremacy produces success on the ground.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Putin is ready, NATO and NORAD are not, they just shot their loads in Libya, and Afghanistan. Witout Putin, NATO does not even have enough aviation fuel.Short of 3 US carrier groups in the Caspian, air power to achieve air superiority for NATO over the Ukraine is just
not possible for 3 years at the least, thanks to NATO’S Obama led adventurism in Libya, which was a stretch for NATO , BTW.

Putin has been planning this for years......while the socialist prigs of Europe and America touted expanded
social program give aways as “peace dividends.” Putin has effed the West royally for at least 3 years.By the end of 3 years Putin will have all the portions of Ukraine he wants, with or without bloodshed.

All NATO can accomplish is to keep Pooty from rolling into Estonia and Poland.

Russian Air force vs NATO :

America is out fueled and out gunned by Russia in any European operation.

RIGHT NOW there cannot be air superiority by the USA in the Ukraine. It will take years, and the Ukraine does not have years, only months or weeks.

http://www.airliners.net/aviationforums/military/read.main/21705/


47 posted on 04/21/2014 3:50:00 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Candor7

48 posted on 04/21/2014 4:22:46 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

Exactly...what irony. I beleieve Putin may actually show Obama the door.


49 posted on 04/22/2014 8:20:53 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: mylife
Harper's a nut job ala McCain .

Obama has this one right.

Why is the new Russia our #1 enemy? On this world stage they should be our conservative partners.

50 posted on 04/22/2014 8:33:01 AM PDT by duckln
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