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Russia writes off 90 per cent of North Korean debt, expected to build gas pipeline (To South Korea)
ABC ^

Posted on 04/19/2014 4:45:20 PM PDT by kronos77

Russia's parliament has agreed to write off about $10 billion of North Korea's Soviet-era debt, in a deal expected to facilitate the building of a gas pipeline to South Korea across the reclusive state.

The State Duma lower house in Moscow on Friday ratified a 2012 agreement to excuse the bulk of North Korea's debt.

It said the total debt stood at $10.96 billion as of September 17, 2012.

The rest of the debt - $1.09 billion - would be redeemed during the next 20 years, to be paid in equal instalments every six months.

The outstanding debt owed by North Korea will be managed by Russia's state development bank, Vnesheconombank.

Russia's deputy finance minister Sergei Storchak told Russian media that the money could be used to fund mutually beneficial projects in North Korea, including a proposed gas pipeline and a railway to South Korea.

The two Koreas remain technically at war and are separated by one of the world's most militarised frontiers.

The North's struggling communist economy is just 2 per cent of the size of South Korea's.

(Excerpt) Read more at abc.net.au ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: economy; gas; korea; nkorea; russia

1 posted on 04/19/2014 4:45:20 PM PDT by kronos77
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To: kronos77
The Cold War resurfaces, thanks to the thug Putin.

Nastrovya!

2 posted on 04/19/2014 4:47:00 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: kronos77

That’s OK. Obama is going to place sanctions on Russia and cut it off from the world.


3 posted on 04/19/2014 4:47:38 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: kronos77

Why would you consider allowing a product directed through your motal enemy’s territory to enter the market in your country?

The NorK’s could cut it off at any time leaving you at their mercy when your economy is dependent on that supply.

Why not continue to us LNG and build ports to make the importation of that much easier and not leave yourself vulnerable to the whim of a psychopath.


4 posted on 04/19/2014 4:52:47 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Ouderkirk

Where else can the pipeline go trough?


5 posted on 04/19/2014 4:59:23 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: cloudmountain

Its not Putins fault. Its Bam bams.


6 posted on 04/19/2014 5:01:07 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: kronos77

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/putin-visits-vietnam-to-boost-ties/489463.html

HANOI, Vietnam — President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday that his country will expand its military supplies to Vietnam, as he held talks with his Vietnamese counterpart to boost ties between the former ideological allies.
(Nov 2013)


7 posted on 04/19/2014 5:03:00 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: driftdiver
Its not Putins fault. Its Bam bams.

"Bam bam"???
Lol. Got me again!

8 posted on 04/19/2014 5:05:19 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

Sorry, I simply cannot stand to say or write his majestys, piss be upon him, name.


9 posted on 04/19/2014 5:07:29 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Ouderkirk
In 2013, South Korea imported nearly 2.5 million bbl/d of crude oil, making it the fifth-largest importer in the world. South Korea is highly dependent on the Middle East for its oil supply, and the region accounted for more than 87% of South Korea's 2013 crude oil imports, according to Global Trade Atlas. Saudi Arabia was the leading supplier and the source of over a third of South Korea's imports, followed by Kuwait at 16% of total crude oil imports. South Korea reduced its crude oil purchases from Iran, from 10% in 2011 to 5% in 2013. South Korea halted shipments from Iran for two months in 2012 to comply with sanctions imposed by the United States that impeded Iran's ability to sell crude oil. After showing a good faith effort to reduce their volumes, South Korea was granted a waiver in mid-2012 and resumed imports from Iran, but at a lower level than before the sanctions. Negotiations between Iran and six global powers at the end of 2013 allowed South Korea and other buyers to maintain current import levels. Other Middle Eastern suppliers have made up for the lost imports from Iran.

South Korea consumed more than 2.3 million barrels per day (bbl/d) of petroleum and other liquids in 2013, making it the ninth-largest consumer in the world. According to the Korea National Oil Company (KNOC), Korea has a small amount of domestic oil reserves, but the country relies significantly on crude oil imports to meet its demand. A majority of South Korea's total oil production of 60,000 bbl/d is based on refinery processing gains and a small portion of biofuel production.

10 posted on 04/19/2014 5:09:45 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: RC one

Gas in South Korea is about $8 a gallon.


11 posted on 04/19/2014 5:12:04 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
Sorry, I simply cannot stand to say or write his majestys, piss be upon him, name.

Lol. I don't blame you.
I ONLY do it out of respect for the OFFICE not the moron who is in it these days.

Opps, did I just call our president a moron? :o) I DID!

12 posted on 04/19/2014 5:19:45 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

Yeah I know, I feel terrible about it, but considering who we’ve had for the last 25 years its a little easier.


13 posted on 04/19/2014 5:21:26 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: kronos77

If South Korea trusts anything that passes through North Korea first then they’re crazy.


14 posted on 04/19/2014 5:23:27 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Ouderkirk

Maybe you should build a pipeline across the worlds longest undefended border between two great democracies...oh wait that is not possible is it?

Maybe a “free market” economy could overturn restrictive gas export laws and not deny gas exports especially so it it could help it allies...oh wait...cant do that

Maybe the country with quite possibly more carbon based energy in the world could free up its resources in coal and thereby drop oil prices like a rock...oh yeah that country is running coal out of existence

But at lest we are not vulnerable to the whims of a psychopath....


15 posted on 04/19/2014 5:28:07 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: driftdiver

Hopefully they don’t have the kind of work commutes we do.


16 posted on 04/19/2014 5:29:21 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: driftdiver
True enough.
I STILL miss Dick Cheney.

We were overseas (Saudi Arabia) when he was vice president and I heard one of his speeches on Sadaam Hussein.

Hussein said that the "war" was going to be the "mother of all wars." Cheney's remark referring to that statement? It seemed more like the "mother of all retreats."
I chuckled over that for WEEKS. It was SO on the money. Hussein was a blithering idiot...the "mother of all jackasses."

Do you remember where they found him? He was in a hidey-hole hiding from the Americans.
All his SONS went out in a blaze of gunfire, dying in their boots with more courage than their cowardly a-hole father.

I remember the Saudi television where they showed Hussein watching television with his family. There were all his children and grandchildren. They were watching the TORTURE of Iranian prisoners and LAUGHING. It was probably the most sickening thing I ever saw on the tube.

Everyone in the middle east HATED him. Even my mild-mannered, gentle boss, Mohammed (of course) called him a "bad man." That was strong language for him.

17 posted on 04/19/2014 5:41:52 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: RC one

They do a lot of driving but have an excellent public transportation system. You can go just about anywhere for a few bucks if you take the bus or train.


18 posted on 04/19/2014 5:48:08 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Ouderkirk

~The NorK’s could cut it off at any time leaving you at their mercy when your economy is dependent on that supply~

Putin and ROK would easily move in from two fronts and kick some butt. Ukraine is by far more formidable opponent than the Norks and look what happens.


19 posted on 04/19/2014 5:50:25 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix

North Korea has the 4th largest army/military in the world. The Ukraine isn’t even close.


20 posted on 04/19/2014 5:53:58 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

~Gas in South Korea is about $8 a gallon~

It is a virtually free gas comparing to Turkey or Netherlands.


21 posted on 04/19/2014 5:54:53 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: driftdiver

Oh, by bad. Ukraine had 4th largest and 3rd most capable military but it was some 20 years ago.
On the other hand Iraq had 4th largest military and what?
Just like Saddam, the Norks mostly armed with outdated stuff and their training is probably WWII style.
Wouldn’t be a problem for Russia and ROK.
BTW, I’ve seen polls and it seems like relations between Russia and South Korea are at all times high. South Koreans seems to have the most positive perception of Russia of most countries including Russian allies.
I think they are considering a free travel between countries without visas the ways Russians agreed with Eastern Europe, Central Asia, Israel and Turkey.
For Russians South Korea might be a valuable potential ally to contain Red China, for ROK Russia might be a source of cheap gas to make economy more competitive.


22 posted on 04/19/2014 6:09:44 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix

SK has a fairly strong economy and good technology. America has slipped seriously in their view because of bam bam.

The NK military is big but not all that well trained or equipped. Their special forces are pretty good because they do real world stuff against SK fairly often. They have a LOT of artillery and their main target is well within range. They also have significant chemical weapons that they can deploy out to about 800km if I recall correctly.


23 posted on 04/19/2014 6:38:09 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Eventually China and Russia will hedge their bets and side with the SoKos.


24 posted on 04/19/2014 6:41:58 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Especially when the US surrenders superpower status.


25 posted on 04/19/2014 6:43:03 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: kronos77
Russia's parliament has agreed to write off about $10 billion of North Korea's Soviet-era debt, in a deal expected to facilitate the building of a gas pipeline to South Korea across the reclusive state.

Great idea! What could possibly go wrong??

FMCDH(BITS)

26 posted on 04/19/2014 7:28:00 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: wetphoenix

Why would Putin move against North Korea? Russia, China and North Korea are long time allies. This should be seen as, exactly as the other fellow mentioned, an attempt to make South Korea dependent on its enemies for their gas supply.


27 posted on 04/19/2014 7:39:08 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Stay current. Russia and China are as much an allies as Hitler and Stalin during an interwar period.
And for Norks both Russia and China are decadent capitalist enemies.
Don’t get fooled by public posture of these nations. They are smiling at each other and carry a big stick.
The only reason why Russia writes off a Nork’s debt is because there is no chance to get it ever paid.


28 posted on 04/19/2014 7:47:41 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: cloudmountain

>Everyone in the middle east HATED him.<

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And what do you think of the “enlightened, democratically inclined” president that we replaced Saddam with?

I guess you’re not reading up on the mass slaughter of Christians taking place in Iraq. The few Christians living under Saddam were not persecuted by his regime.

You must be of the opinion that things in Iraq are better today except for the few car and suicide bombs going off here and there.


29 posted on 04/19/2014 7:59:08 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG
And what do you think of the “enlightened, democratically inclined” president that we replaced Saddam with? I guess you’re not reading up on the mass slaughter of Christians taking place in Iraq. The few Christians living under Saddam were not persecuted by his regime. You must be of the opinion that things in Iraq are better today except for the few car and suicide bombs going off here and there. You know nothing.

I guess YOU are believing everything you read from the media. With that, your credibility is absolute zero.

Mass slaughter in Iraq? You know nothing of the middle east if you believe that. There is no MASS slaughter of anything over there.

Our media in this country are hopelessly caught up with reporting ANYTHING evil in the middle east. It is WHAT THEY DO.

They have NEVER known anything about the middle east that wasn't put in their heads by those that hate Arabs and Muslims.

30 posted on 04/19/2014 8:12:21 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

>You know nothing of the middle east if you believe that.<

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Well, let me see: 12 years Dhahran, 3 years Ras Tanura, 2 years Jubail and 5 years Sana’a (Yemen) and 6 months Abu Dhabi.

You can match that?


31 posted on 04/19/2014 8:18:14 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG
I can't match that, but I can see that you learned VERY LITTLE about the culture. You also managed to come away with a totally negative attitude.
Well, maybe your negativism is just who you are.

I feel sorry for you, especially for those who have to live with you. May our good Lord bless you with a much, much better attitude in life.

32 posted on 04/20/2014 6:38:47 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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