Skip to comments.Some Covered California Patients Say They Canít See A Doctor [Obama voters complain about Obamacare]
Posted on 04/19/2014 9:40:27 PM PDT by grundle
MOUNTAIN VIEW (KPIX 5) While open enrollment for coverage under the Affordable Care Act is closed, many of the newly insured are finding they cant find doctors, landing them into a state described as medical homelessness.
Rotacare, a free clinic for the uninsured in Mountain View, is dealing with the problem firsthand.
Mirella Nguyen works at the clinic said staffers dutifully helped uninsured clients sign up for Obamacare so they would no longer need the free clinic.
But months later, the clinics former patients are coming back to the clinic begging for help. Theyre coming back to us now and saying I cant find a doctor, said Nguyen.
Thinn Ong was thrilled to qualify for a subsidy on the health care exchange. She is paying $200 a month in premiums. But the single mother of two is asking, what for?
Yeah, I sign it. I got it. But wheres my doctor? Whos my doctor? I dont know, said a frustrated Ong.
Nguyen said the newly insured patients checked the physicians lists they were provided and were told they werent accepting new patients or they did not participate in the plan.
And Nguyen says while the free clinic isnt technically supposed to be treating former patents they signed up for insurance, they cant in good faith turn them away.
Dr. Kevin Grumbach of UCSF called the phenomenon medical homelessness, where patients are caught adrift in a system woefully short of primary care doctors.
Those who cant find a doctor are supposed to lodge a complaint with state regulators, who have been denying the existence of a doctor shortage for months.
Meanwhile, the sick and insured cant get appointments.
What good is coverage if you cant use it? Nguyen said.
(Excerpt) Read more at sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com ...
what good is taxation without representation???
Show them a pic of Bammy and declare them cured.
I knew this was coming as soon as they announced the ACA. Many doctors wouldn’t participate and/or would close their practices. Since so many providers are already close to overload, they’d quickly fill up (or even reduce the number of patients they’d be willing to put on their list). On top of that, the ACA was already not going to even try to include all providers; patients were going to get significantly-truncated lists of providers to choose from, and there were many reports that patients wouldn’t be allowed to go as far afield to locate one either (more limited coverage area).
Now it’s starting. These are just the first reports, and more are on the way.
Well what do you want for nothing, a rubber biscuit?
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No problem. Have the government require the docs to serve everyone. If they try to retire, confiscate their savings and investments.
Maybe they should pay twice as much, so they can get twice as less doctors...
I laugh at all LIB/DIM supporters who have such problems. Death panels may soon have you on their lists. Bwahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
These dumb obamadroids are discovering that having health insurance does not mean you are going to get health CARE!
Why the complaining? They’re insured, and that’s all that matters.
Yes, it’s country wide and it will be a major problem for years to come. Unless major changes are made, it will be the destruction of our Health Care system..as fragile as it is anyway. The good part is that many Doctors are getting out of the Medicaid/Medicare business and may still make it but that is not good news for patients.
The overall result is loss of Doctors, loss of Hospitals, loss of care... So this grand law will have the effect of giving insurance to 20 million or so and taking away the health care of 60 million...great idea these Democrats had.
What good if insurance if no Doctors or Hospitals will take it?
Healthcare is not insurance, it is Doctor’s care that is required, the Democrats do not seem to know the difference!
But but but!!!! The rich people were supposed to pay!!!!! And the rest was going to come from Obama’s stash
They should have stayed with state Medicaid. Paying a premium for non-existent health care coverage is for suckers.
They figured on getting something for nothing. Instead they are getting nothing
I thought Jeff Chandler is dead.
Not many doctors accept new Medicaid patients.
Even Medicare patients have trouble finding new doctors.
Obamacare sucks as do the insurance execs and boards that also betrayed the nation in cooperating with socialism.
... and they shall call it ZEROCARE.
Isn’t Vietnam chock full of doctors? There you go!
That’s the other Jeff Chandler.
The Willie Green Of Health Plans.
This is so sad, but yet another prediction coming true. Health "coverage" and "care" are not the same thing. The goal of any serious health reform is not to get people "coverage" but ultimately increase access to quality to actual CARE. That means more facilities, not fewer. Obamacare does the exact opposite. Fewer new facilities will be built, existing facilities will not expand or even scale back because of the law.
However, since this person is "covered" - they count as a success story.
That $200 a month would pay for a lot of doctors visits and prescriptions.
BUSH’S FAULT! Omg,, Damn you Bush!
As with liberalism in general, celebrate the symbolism and ignore the problems.
Oh, the “coverage” does indeed exist. It’s the “care” that doesn’t actually come along with the “coverage.” Sort of like...well...Europe and Canada - everyone has “coverage” - they may get no actual medical treatment, but at least everyone is “covered.”
This is being setup to promote single payer.
Free Obamaphones soon to be followed by free health care.
Yes, but it's MUCH more important as "campaign contributions" funneled to Democrats.
Or lose their license to practice.
That might have been the plan at first, but like many ganja-fueled plans of the '60s and '70s "activists" now in power, things are so incredibly screwed up by now that most Americans want the government COMPLETELY out of "health care," not running the whole show.
Good. Let them get bled dry, let them die of neglect, and once they’re all gone we’ll be able to vote their guys out and get our guys in to repeal it.
That’s funny until you become a Senior trying to find a Doctor that takes Medicare!
That's because it's not coverage. It's government extortion under color of law.
Welcome to the consequences of this so-called Liberalism!
Because Obama isn’t your primary care doctor, stupid.
There - fixed it.
“That might have been the plan at first, but like many ganja-fueled plans of the ‘60s and ‘70s ‘activists’ now in power, things are so incredibly screwed up by now that most Americans want the government COMPLETELY out of ‘health care,’ not running the whole show.”
I think Chief Justice Roberts saw this FAIL coming exactly as you say!
“Thats funny until you become a Senior trying to find a Doctor that takes Medicare!”
One of the hallmarks of socialism is as it is imposed, there are nearly instantaneous shortages of valued goods and services.
It never does not happen.
Shortages of supplies and meds?
These are my worries for me and my family.
That $200 a month would pay for a lot of doctors visits and prescriptions.
I wonder what her deductible was? Wait ‘til she finds out (assuming she finds a doctor), that she’s going to have to come out of pocket, maybe for quite a bit of money, for quite a while ... perhaps all year if her bills aren’t significant. As you stated, $200/mo would probably pay for routine care/meds - so the question is how long will she continue to pay those premiums for “nothing”. I think many of these folks will quickly figure out that they’re better off not paying premiums and using that cash for the care they need and they’ll likely be able to find a doctor, too.
What good is a lying jug-eared Marxist?
“The goal of any serious health reform is not to get people “coverage” but ultimately increase access to quality to actual CARE. That means more facilities, not fewer. Obamacare does the exact opposite. Fewer new facilities will be built, existing facilities will not expand or even scale back because of the law.”
And the other thing that serious reform needs to do it to address the overall true cost of providing quality healthcare. In there zeal to get everyone’s private medical records computerized (so they can slice and dice you to see if you are worth treating) they have driven the cost sky-high. Now when we go to the doctor, he/she spends most of the “exam time” pounding away at a laptop instead of trying to find out what’s wrong with one of us. This whole sorry RAT- developed “system” is so ass backward it would be laughable if it weren’t deadly. Our only hope is that it is so bad that no amount of BS rhetoric will be able to cover it’s early collapse.
My wife just had open-heart surgery. The “visiting nurse” tells us that she has to go in after hours on her own nickel to enter “patient data” into their hospital’s new medical records system. She says that it is affecting her ability to provide patient care. There are literally tens of thousands of “codes” to describe in minute detail what they are doing to/for you.
Actually, I think that it will be the norm for both Medicaid and Medicare patients. For most things major, I would have to travel 150 miles to get to a Doctor or Hospital for treatment so it is essentially useless as primary coverage.
If you don’t have supplemental coverage that is accepted by local Doctors, then you are just screwed!
I even have Veterans coverage but of course that is also about 150 miles away so...
For the most part, I’m screwed! Just another side effect of Obamacare...
Happy and hope I don’t get any major sickness...heh.
They didn’t mention that people go to the free clinics because the deductibles are so high that they can’t afford to see a doctor (if they had a doctor).
The liberal solution will be to close the free clinics because, after all, everyone now is required to have Obamacare.