Skip to comments.Obama Promised a ‘Civilian National Security Force’ – Today There Are Over 120,000 Armed Federal
Posted on 04/19/2014 11:48:24 PM PDT by Nachum
Armed federal agents at the Cliven Bundy ranch in Nevada, April 2014. (Natural News)
In 2008, Barack Obama announced his plan to build a massive civilian national security force here in America. It would be just as well funded as the US military.
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This is completely off topic, but is looking at the photo, it occurred to me that a 0.50 round through the face plate of the tactical shield would kill/maim all four of the domestic combatants. Not very good tactical planning IMHO.
There’s another ARmy in the the US. And it's the largest ARmy in the world - it's numbers are in the millions...
and these numbers are from two years ago - add to them all the non-hunters that have guns - and the whole new layer of women shooters - There's probably as many non-hunters now with guns as there are registered hunters.
And then there's the tens of thousands of returned, trained vets - Oath Takers.
So ‘bummer's got his ‘army’?
The ONLY thing ‘bummer's been good for is the sale of guns.
This is part of a 200-man army sent against a man they claim owes back fees -
WHAT COUNTRY IS THIS??????
your lips to god’s ear...
Line ‘em up!
The phrase "The clothes make the man." is very appropriate here. When they change the uniform and the weapons of the police officer, and the tactics they train with, they change the man. As the famous Stanford Prison Experiment showed, people can suspend their normal moral framework and adopt a completely immoral framework by being asked to fill a role where that behavior is deemed appropriate. These "officers" are dressed and being trained like they are doing patrols in occupied Baghdad. Consequently, they start to see everyone as an "insurgent."
On the other hand, the citizens who are witnessing this police transformation are adopting a mirror image phychology. They see themselves as being occupied by an invader. It really isn't that surprising that the cowboys developed the attitude that this was a life or death struggle. And it is not the fault of the cowboys that it escalated this much. It was caused by the police, their uniforms, their training, and their attitude.
We need to push back on this new police force, or they will start the civil insurgency they would claim they are trying to stop.
The growth of militarized bureaucracies is a clear violation of the spirit of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1897 which makes it illegal to use the armed forces against US citizens.
If not in legal actuality, at least in spirit.
Was the Post Office, the IRS, All of the Interior Depts, and other bureaucracies ALWAYS ARMED TO THE TEETH??????
Those guys all combat-vogueing must be thinking they're like the Marines at Iwo Jima. Far, far from it.
My local town policeman showed up about 20 minutes after I’d accidentally set off my home alarm.
He was a young man, just like the hundreds I see here in my county (yes sir, no sir to older men), nothing like a Rambo or a Mohawk buzz cut soopertrooper you see in other places.
He had a plain old S&W 38 Special revolver in his holster, and he apologized for being so late - he was out on another call on the other side of town.
Thanked him, we talked a bit, shook hands and he left.
It’s a modified paintball gun filled with pepper balls.
Exact one is here.
His new “brown shirt army” is now in place and THAT is another of odumbo’s “accomplishement”. The second accomplishment is that he has and continues to downsize our “regular” military so the balance of power will be on his brown shirt’s side. Amazing how he has gotten away with that and even more amazing is the he is till at the helm and not six feet under.
“His new brown shirt army is now in place and THAT is another of odumbos accomplishement.”
You might want to thank Bush as well.
no joke. are these guys mercenaries straight off the boat from Kandahar or have they just watched too many movies? I mean, seriously. This is muy muy malo juju
That's how the sheriff deputies are here except that it's about 45 minutes before we see one of them if we need one. I wonder what side they will be on when it really hits the fan with the Feds? We are expected to take care of our own problems in whatever way we must way out here in the hills of TN and the Feds are going to be really surprised at how much of America is armed and ready, I think.
So, let me get this right. The country is totally broke but Obama found enough money to recruit, arm, and train 120,000 more armed federal agents.
With Obama’s firing of top brass, I wonder if he and whoever is running him are attempting a counterweight to the US military.
Are they frightened of the battle hardened volunteer fighting force that is coming home to no jobs, no economic future, few opportunities, a reduced and shattered way of life and the statist imposition of draconian speech and social codes?
This is a long time coming. I think the federal force and diktats coming fast and furious are agreed in principle by both sides of the establishment, left and right.
“If not in legal actuality, at least in spirit.”
You have noticed that “The Law” is not applied equally?”
We are in very dangerous territory right now. Using the law to stiffle and punish dissent, e.g., IRS and the selective enforcement of financial crimes has tipped this country into the realm of fascism.
They bleed and die just like everybody else!
Then you shoot 200 rounds into the boat. The intent was obvious...OBAMA wanted him D E A D.
And all this because Obama told Putin to MYOB when he sent info about the killers.
We ignored the panty bomber's father. We ignored the reports on Hasan....
Bottom line....all Muslims...All deliberately ignored by Obama...."I will side with....."
How many were there before Obama came into office?
This is shocking - but as we saw at the Bundy ranch, being armed and having the intelligence and knowledge into their proper roll and how to use them are two entirely different things. The Army has been using arms for century’s and understands this. Just giving a rife to a civilian is not the same has having an Army.
There’s only one question.... If someone lets them out of the bottle, who’s going to put them back in? Very easy to get into a war, very difficult to get out!
The military strategy rule you are referring to assumes comparable numbers of opposition- wherein superior intelligence, training, etc. are usually decisive. Korean War showed what happens when that assumption is proven to be false. One thousand to one ratios as are present here are likely to negate normal military advantages - if the will to fight is strong.
I have a question that readers of this post may know the answer to saving me considerable time researching.
I know the oath the President takes to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution.
I know the oath the Congress takes to support and defend the Constitution.
I know the oath military officers take to support and defend the Constitution.
I know the oath the enlisted military take to support and defend the Constitution and to obey orders that are in accord with the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
The subtle distinction between officer oath and enlisted oath is that
officers are bound to disobey any order that violates our Constitution,
while enlisted personnel are bound to obey only lawful orders.
What oath do Armed Federal Agents take?
They vet the enemy and he is us.
This should give the Feds second thoughts because whatever location they choose and whatever numbers they commit, they will always be surrounded.....................
" The proliferation of paramilitary federal SWAT teams inevitably brings abuses that have nothing to do with either drugs or terrorism. Many of the raids they conduct are against harmless, often innocent, Americans who typically are accused of non-violent civil or administrative violations.
Take the case of Kenneth Wright of Stockton, Calif., who was "visited" by a SWAT team from the U.S. Department of Education in June 2011. Agents battered down the door of his home at 6 a.m., dragged him outside in his boxer shorts, and handcuffed him as they put his three children (ages 3, 7, and 11) in a police car for two hours while they searched his home. The raid was allegedly intended to uncover information on Wright's estranged wife, Michelle, who hadn't been living with him and was suspected of college financial-aid fraud."
"In the Second World War, when the Japanese took Singapore and inflicted what Churchill called the most ignominious defeat in British military history, it was famously said of the colony's ill-prepared defenses that the guns were pointing the wrong way.
In America today, the guns seem to be pointing the wrong way."
Oath For Federal Employees
"I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."
So the picture is about the government’s armed response to what? Somebody not paying taxes?
Remember Elian Gonzalez? That was under a democrat president too.
This is no longer the United States that I once knew.
Those agents could cause havoc in the name of the law. But with Obama as Commander in Chief. BWA-HA-HA-HA!
Barack Hussein Obama, the proven liar, could not lead a one car clown funeral. At best, he is setting up a dictatorship for someone else.
All these 120,000 federales have neighbors to live side by side with. They have to sleep sometime.
Excellent observation, and IMO correct.
” We are expected to take care of our own problems in whatever way we must way out here in the hills of TN and the Feds are going to be really surprised at how much of America is armed and ready, I think.”
I lived in White Bluff, Tn. for years and we had a Constable but it took him a long time to respond and the Sheriff’s Dept. could take an hour or more. Everyone was armed and you could hear gunfire at night frequently. It was a bad idea to go prowling around at night.
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That’s how he did it.
But I wonder if the will all be loyal to him/his administration...
Exactly. Seems like the obvious question - the article doesn’t answer it.
WHAT COUNTRY IS THIS??????
The perpetual Onion of the Untied States.
Hitler is smiling up from hell, you know that old saying the bigger the lie the more they will believe it. Well our fascist leader and his ilk are enjoying this on our dime.
Yes and they are not constitutional or lawful. They need to be confronted at every turn by the American public and the militia. These people have no jurisdiction to make armed incursions into sovereign states.
Notice at the Bundy standoff the FBI and the US Marshals nowhere to be found. There is a reason for that.