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Harry Reid Doubles Down on Bundy Ranch: 'If They're Patriots, We're in Big Trouble'
Breitbart ^ | 18 Apr 2014 | Kerry Picket

Posted on 04/20/2014 6:57:50 AM PDT by Cheerio

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on Friday stood by his statement regarding embattled Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, saying on KSNV’s What’s Your Point?, “If anyone thinks by any figment of their imagination that what happened up there last week was just people rallying to somebody that was oppressed, 600 people came in armed. They had practiced. They had maneuvered.”

Reid continued, “They knew what they were doing. They set up snipers in strategic locations with sniper rifles. They had assault weapons. They had automatic weapons. And they boasted about the fact that they put women and children, in fact one retired sheriff from Arizona posted he put women and children, so that they would get hit first.”

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Yes, Harry your big Marxist government may indeed be in trouble. Stay tuned for Nov 4.
1 posted on 04/20/2014 6:57:50 AM PDT by Cheerio
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To: Cheerio
'If They're Patriots, We're in Big Trouble'

They are, and we are.

2 posted on 04/20/2014 7:01:52 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Cheerio

The 0bamunists continue to ignore laws duly passed by the Congress and signed by the President with impunity. The IRS is politicized and weaponized to punish opponents of this venal regime, as are all the other alphabet agencies.

Meanwhile, rogue government agencies impose capricious regulations and fees that are subject to change without notice on what they must consider to be their subjects, somewhat like the fabled vindictive, venal Sheriff of Nottingham.

The Federal apparatchik response to a farmer who believes an agency is imposing unfair fees is to send heavily armed tactical squads to terrorize his family, plunder his assets, and destroy his personal property, all the while spending much more on collecting the disputed “debt” than the amount they want to collect.

This, my FRiends, is TYRANNY!


3 posted on 04/20/2014 7:05:05 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Cheerio

When are the good people of Nevada going to retire this fossilized SOB?


4 posted on 04/20/2014 7:05:47 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: MUDDOG

These people are patriots, all right, Senator Harry Reid (D-Beijing).

Just not patriots of the country you represent.

At the moment, Nevada is represented by only one Senator.


5 posted on 04/20/2014 7:06:18 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: Cheerio

Yes, Harry ...you are in big trouble. Yes, they are Patriots.

While Bundy may indeed owe grazing fee’s, it was the BLM that showed up ready to use violence, federal violence against a US Citizen. At what point is it OK for the federal government to resort to violence against a citizen in order to collect taxes/fee’s, instead of using all the legal channels available to it?

Harry, really, the government needed to collect this debt so badly it needed to attempt to do so at the point of a gun? Really?


6 posted on 04/20/2014 7:06:22 AM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: Cheerio
Yes, Harry your big Marxist government may indeed be in trouble. Stay tuned for Nov 4.

In a just world, Harry would have far more to worry about than reelection numbers.

7 posted on 04/20/2014 7:06:46 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Cheerio

Harry, Now you know what a “well regulated” militia
really means.


8 posted on 04/20/2014 7:07:14 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Cheerio

Harry is itching for a fight.

As the saying goes — be careful what you wish for. You just might get it.


9 posted on 04/20/2014 7:07:26 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: tet68

For the record........ how was the militia regulated?


10 posted on 04/20/2014 7:08:09 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Cheerio
Yes. Dingy Harry's "We" refers to Big Government National Socialist democRATS. And they are in trouble.


11 posted on 04/20/2014 7:08:14 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Cheerio

Patriots have always meant “real trouble, “for powermongers and petty tyrants like Harry Reid. So in that sense he is right.

The fact is, Harry Reid is using government to pad his and his son’s coffer. And he does not care who he walks on, or what rights he violates to do so.

Harry Reid and his family and their “corporations,” are so deep into shady land deals in Clark County and elsewhere in Nevada that it is ridiculous...and, IMHO< completely and totally corrupt and criminal.

If people look, they will find that holdings that he and his corporations have obtained...many times at zero cost...are now growing in size from year to year, while the BLM controlled land around them shrinks. And there is no record on how or why this is happening. Just that the Reid holdings continue to grow.

But with Reid’s man in control at the BLM, and an administration like the Obama Administration that specializes in kick-backs and the draining of the public trust and coffers for their political supporters, it is not at all surprising this is happening.

Now, a Rancher like Bundy stood in his way and he thought he could walk over him too...but he was wrong and so now he is lashing out at that rancher and anyone who supports him. And he is right to be concerned for his petty “empire,” it is people like that...patriots like that...who will bring it down.

The Bundy Ranch and Freedom in America
http://www.jeffhead.com/bundy-ranch.htm


12 posted on 04/20/2014 7:08:32 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Cheerio

The sheriff of Elkhart Indiana arrived at the Bundy Ranch.


13 posted on 04/20/2014 7:08:51 AM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Cheerio

“Stay tuned for Nov 4.”

How can we tell how much they are manipulating the votes? The machines can contain a bug which turns every 3rd vote into a rat vote and at 7pm, poll closing time, the bug can erase itself. Not to mention a computer printout at the end of the evening showing every name that didn’t vote that suddenly does vote (and guess which party they vote for?).
We were really bamboozled into this electronic voting and it is going to be the end of this country.


14 posted on 04/20/2014 7:11:28 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: MUDDOG

As I quickly scanned this post I thought Harry Reid was referring to the Patriot’s Day events when hundreds of heavily armed Americans gathered to stand against an entrenched tyranny. Each had a privately owned “assault weapon of the day”, and had drilled and practiced.
These “Domestic Terrorists”, in the end, had to fire “The Shot heard round the world.”
I think there is a famous statue commemorating the event.
Is the man still holding that “assault rifle”?


15 posted on 04/20/2014 7:14:43 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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To: bert
For the record........ how was the militia regulated?
The phrase "well regulated" in colonial times:

The following are taken from the Oxford English Dictionary, and bracket in time the writing of the 2nd amendment:

1709: "If a liberal Education has formed in us well-regulated Appetites and worthy Inclinations."
1714: "The practice of all well-regulated courts of justice in the world."
1812: "The equation of time ... is the adjustment of the difference of time as shown by a well-regulated clock and a true sun dial."
1848: "A remissness for which I am sure every well-regulated person will blame the Mayor."
1862: "It appeared to her well-regulated mind, like a clandestine proceeding."
1894: "The newspaper, a never wanting adjunct to every well-regulated American embryo city."

The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.

Fight the Free Sh☭t Nation

16 posted on 04/20/2014 7:15:16 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer. Programming for everyone.)
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To: bert

Well regulated originally meant well trained. Use an old dictionary to find the Founders intent.


17 posted on 04/20/2014 7:15:45 AM PDT by wheat_grinder
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To: Cheerio

WHAT IS A PATRIOT?

PATRIOTS are not “Revolutionaries” trying to overthrow the government of the United States.

PATRIOTS are “Counter-Revolutionaries” trying to prevent the government of the United States,
from overthrowing the Constitution of the United States. - Unknown Author


18 posted on 04/20/2014 7:16:47 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: EBH
A quick background as to why the BLM should not be harassing Cliven Bundy. This issue goes all the way back to the Confederation Papers, prior to the writing of our US Constitution.

Please remember that the Supreme Court has reversed more than 150 of earlier Supreme Court decisions on natural law. Is that what you would consider as someone being consistent and reliable in interpreting the Constitution?

The Resolution of 1780, "the federal trust respecting public lands obligated the united States to extinguish both their governmental jurisdiction and their title to land that achieved statehood."

In the Constitutional Convention of 1787, The Charter of Liberty contained these words, "The new Federal Government is an agent serving the states.", "The delegated powers are few and defined", "All powers not listed are retained by the states or the people", "The Resolution of 1780 formed the basis upon which Congress was required to dispose of territorial and public lands", "All laws shall be made by the Congress of the United States". (not agency bureaucrats!)

That should be sufficient for you to determine who all public lands belong to, hint - NOT the Federal Government!

"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such, it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted. it means now". So said the Supreme Court in South Carolina v United States in 1905

Articles of Confederation, Article VI, clause 1 All engagements entered into before the adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation. In Article IX "... no State shall be deprived of territory for the benefit of the United States."

Formation of a "more perfect union" does not absolve that union of prior engagements, including those obligations establish by the resolution of 1780 and the Articles of Confederation.

Our government system is established by compact, not between the Government and the State Governments but between the States as Sovereign Communities. By James Madison 1821 (This is what make the County Sheriffs the highest law enforcement officer in that County and gives him/her the authority to tell the BLM, the FBI or any other Federal Agency to get out of the County or they will be arrested and jailed.)

What I have written here is but a short piece of the process that the Founder went through to establish our Constitution and system of government.

Please view these videos and see if they don't change your mind about whether or not Cliven Bundy is in the wrong by defying the BLM.

1of3 Stephen Pratt speaking to Sheriffs at WSSA conference

2of3 Stephen Pratt speaking to Sheriffs at WSSA conference

3of3 Stephen Pratt speaking to Sheriffs at WSSA conference

Here's one that shows why the Sheriff of Clark County is duty bound to keep the BLM and all Federal agents from arresting Cliven Bundy.

Steven Pratt, Bound by Oath to Support THIS Constitution,

19 posted on 04/20/2014 7:18:23 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Cheerio

I should be so lucky


20 posted on 04/20/2014 7:20:00 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Cheerio

Compared to the bumbling ignorant fools in military garb sent out by the bureau of overmanagement, anyone would look organized Harry.

What’s your point with all the whining about sniper rifles, assault rifles and automatic weapons, the very legal weapons also in the hands of the patriotic citizens present.

What I found conspicuously missing in the hands of the patriots, was paintball guns and 40mm grenade launchers. What I would like to know is what those boys were using for ammo in those two weapons meant to usurp the liberty and life of those you choose to malign.


21 posted on 04/20/2014 7:20:16 AM PDT by wita
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To: Mycroft Holmes

Nicely done.


22 posted on 04/20/2014 7:20:23 AM PDT by MileHi
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To: windsorknot
When are the good people of Nevada going to retire this fossilized SOB?

They did. In 2010, Harry Reid won re-election 50.3%-44.5%. The Nevada Governors race that year went 53.4%-41.6% to the GOP... and yet somehow NINE percent of all the state's voters who supported a Republican for Governor also voted to keep Harry Reid?!? Yeah, right. The vote fraud had to have been significant. The SEIU was in charge of the voting machines, several people complained of ballots having his name checked already, and he won his own hometown by a grand total of 3 votes. No investigation was launched, however... Harry Reid's son was County Commission Chairman that year for Clark County, where 75% of the state's voters live.

23 posted on 04/20/2014 7:22:07 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Karl Spooner
Sheriff of Elkhart Indiana at Bundy Ranch

Sheriff Brad Rogers Facebook page

24 posted on 04/20/2014 7:23:38 AM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Cheerio

Yo, Pinky Reid, the nation is in real trouble because lying criminals like you populate the upper levels of the federal government.


25 posted on 04/20/2014 7:24:00 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: Cheerio
in fact one retired sheriff from Arizona posted he put women and children, so that they would get hit first.”

Oh, looky! Rustlin' Reid is still lying!

Mack said he was trying to convince them to do that, and Mack is NOT in charge of the ranch.

26 posted on 04/20/2014 7:24:31 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: ArtDodger
"“Stay tuned for Nov 4.” How can we tell how much they are manipulating the votes? The machines can contain a bug which turns every 3rd vote into a rat vote and at 7pm, poll closing time, the bug can erase itself. Not to mention a computer printout at the end of the evening showing every name that didn’t vote that suddenly does vote (and guess which party they vote for?). We were really bamboozled into this electronic voting and it is going to be the end of this country."

Agree 100%. I have been saying this for several years. Obama's reelection was rigged in exactly that way. That's why all the precincts with 100% obama votes. The software was not sophisticated enough to compensate for very small precincts so it just wiped out all of Romney votes.

How completely silly and Illogical are people that think millions of Republicans stayed home. The Republican establishment knows the election was complete fraud. Unfortunately they also know it's too late to do anything about it.

27 posted on 04/20/2014 7:25:42 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: CaptainAmiigaf
These “Domestic Terrorists”, in the end, had to fire “The Shot heard round the world.”

Not to mention the faux Indians at the Boston Tea Party.

Elizabeth Warren is a disgrace to all faux Indians.

28 posted on 04/20/2014 7:27:45 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: wita

I think sentence two was to indicate those legal weapons were in the hands of government, not just the Patriots.


29 posted on 04/20/2014 7:28:56 AM PDT by wita
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To: ArtDodger
How can we tell how much they are manipulating the votes? The machines can contain a bug which turns every 3rd vote into a rat vote and at 7pm, poll closing time, the bug can erase itself.

EXCELLENT POINT. This Government is not to be trusted and there is proof backing up that assertion.

Bloomberg Reports: Heart Bleed Virus Allegedly Exploited By NSA to gather information on Internet Users for Years
30 posted on 04/20/2014 7:28:59 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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They had practiced. They had maneuvered

Next time please send us people who run around in circles.

Automatic weapons? There were automatic weapons there, but not on the side of the patriots. What a farce. Women and children as human shields? Prove it.
31 posted on 04/20/2014 7:29:01 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Cheerio

When the wind blows just right, you can smell that stinky little man clear down in Texas.


32 posted on 04/20/2014 7:30:23 AM PDT by tje
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To: Cheerio

‘If They’re Patriots, We’re in Big Trouble’


Yes, Harry. Yes you are.


33 posted on 04/20/2014 7:33:09 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: MamaTexan

In one of Mack’s videos he said he wasn’t even there at the ranch when it went down. Said he was tied up in traffic. So I can only assume that it was his suggestion over the phone.


34 posted on 04/20/2014 7:33:36 AM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: tje

“Big trouble”, Harry? There is a lot of that to go around and YOU are one who deserves a much large share than you have gotten thus far. “Be prepared”, is all I can say.


35 posted on 04/20/2014 7:33:59 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Cheerio

Yes, they are Patriots and we are all in trouble. I guess living at the Ritz in DC insulates Dingy Harry from reality. It is hard to believe that the putrid crook is just now realizing this.


36 posted on 04/20/2014 7:33:59 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Cheerio

Harry “Cleanface” Reid is pissed he’s not able to deliver on corrupt deals? Maybe he’s becoming a liability to his Mafia buddies and is worried about being buried alive like Joe Pesci’s character in Casino (Anthony Spilotro)


37 posted on 04/20/2014 7:34:02 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: Cheerio

He is soooooooo right. He is in BIG trouble!


38 posted on 04/20/2014 7:35:21 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: EBH
At what point is it OK for the federal government to resort to violence against a citizen in order to collect taxes/fee’s, instead of using all the legal channels available to it?

Can you imagine if they pounced on Charlie Rangle with the same force used on Bundy? How about Al Sharpton, who owes more than Bundy?

39 posted on 04/20/2014 7:35:25 AM PDT by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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To: Teacher317

Harry if the militia were really domestic terrorists you would already be gone from this world. Its a testament to the patience and morality of the American public that you are still walking and lying.


40 posted on 04/20/2014 7:35:49 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Cheerio

About the best thing that you can say about this dino is that he occasionally embellishes the truth; most of the time he out-and-out lies. Hope he kicks his “Koch” addiction.


41 posted on 04/20/2014 7:36:09 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: B4Ranch

Oh...I understand all that.

My comment though was to provoke the idea that the BLM (federal government) is behaving way outside the scope of court law and instead opting to use ‘the point of a gun.’

Whether one is an armchair lawyer like Reid or an active Patriot, it should be abhorrent to all citizens that the government is opting to use ‘the gun’ to ‘collect fee’s/taxes.’

What I do think many conservatives are missing in regards to these confiscations in Nevada and New Mexico etc. is the progressive control of the food chain. History teaches us that communists, fascists etc. exert control over the food chain. Historically it has been by collectivization of farms and ranches. But, you cannot get away with that here in America, so what do they think they can control...access to grazing land and confiscation of cattle due to trespass. Now, consider for a moment the sky rocketing prices of beef and pork due to the harsh winter and porcine disease. Why in heaven’s name would a benevolent government confiscate cattle and destroy them in a mass grave? Why would grazing be outlawed? Why would all this be done at the point of a gun?

I contend this is being done to begin to exert control over the food supply. Recall last summer the odd bill passed in congress and signed into law regarding farming and how the federal government can control farming down to your backyard garden! Do not dare share your food with a neighbor or sell it at a local farm market unless you meet the government standards.

Control over access to healthcare...done.

We’ve seen incremental and progressive control all these decades over the ranchers, now the are pushing.

Are we arriving too late to this fight, now that many of us have our eyes wide open let’s hope not. But one cannot argue the law with a government that doesn’t recognize their very own law and instead chooses to use ‘the point of a gun,’ to get what they want.

Mao Zedong: Every Communist must grasp the truth: Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.


42 posted on 04/20/2014 7:44:32 AM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: Cheerio

Keep pushing Harry. You ain’t seen nothing yet...


43 posted on 04/20/2014 8:03:18 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tri nornar eg bir. Binde til rota...)
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To: andyk

>>They had practiced. They had maneuvered<<

In Viet Nam, in Iraq, in Afghanistan, .....


44 posted on 04/20/2014 8:18:29 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Cheerio

If you’re an honest Senator and a decent American we’re DEAD!


45 posted on 04/20/2014 8:20:32 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: MUDDOG

Dear muddog,

you wrote:
“<<’If They’re Patriots, We’re in Big Trouble’>>

They are, and we are.”

I believe you missed that.

It should have been written:
“Yes, Harry Reid, they ARE Patriots, and YOU are in big trouble!”

Please accept this with my best wishes.


46 posted on 04/20/2014 8:21:03 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Cheerio

Harry is mad because his stormtroopers didn’t get him his land deal. Those cowboys and ordinary citizens trampled on his pocketbook, and he is worried that they might do it again in the future.


47 posted on 04/20/2014 8:22:07 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Terry L Smith

Good point. Thanks!


48 posted on 04/20/2014 8:23:08 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: fatnotlazy

“Harry is itching for a fight.”

As long as it’s not him doing the actual fighting.


49 posted on 04/20/2014 8:29:28 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Cheerio

The Federal Leviathan has drawn battle lines, seeing to it that the world is now split into “Them” vs “Us.” It’s about time we just go ahead and proudly claim our position in their NWO, by declaring ourselves the “Domestic Terrorist” Party.

Kinda like the guys running around in T-shirts and ball caps that say “Infidel.”

Or my favorite tee shirt: “This veteran has been medicated for your safety.”


50 posted on 04/20/2014 8:36:51 AM PDT by dagogo redux
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