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Cliven Bundy and the Origins of the American Abundance Revolution
Breitbart's Big Government ^ | April 19, 2014 | James P. Pinkerton

Posted on 04/20/2014 12:27:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Today, in the year 2064, as we look back over the last 50 years, it might seem as if the Abundance Revolution was inevitable, since so much wealth was involved. After all, it was wealth just waiting to be unleashed.

Yet paradoxically, on the eve of the Abundance Revolution, many of America’s leaders, on the right as well as the left, were preaching a strict doctrine of overall austerity.

Indeed, as we look back and study the events of 2014, we can see the results of the Green elite’s ideologically-driven effort to squelch even the relatively small amount of prosperity that Americans were then enjoying. That is, it was the Green elites who unwittingly opened the door to the Abundance Revolution and the fantastic increase in wealth that Americans have since realized over the last half-century.

We can point to three events, all occurring in April 2014.

The first triggering event, now the stuff of lore and legend, was the incident in Bunkerville, Nevada, in which Cliven Bundy, then an anonymous citizen, joined by several hundred supporters, faced down a federal army led by an ally of then-Sen. Harry Reid. The incident began on April 5, 2014, when the federal government attempted to seize Bundy’s property; that attempt, which struck many as overkill, led to a series of confrontations that ultimately inspired national news coverage.

What highlighted the incident further were the comments of Sen. Reid, who referred to Bundy and his allies as “terrorists.” That seemed such an excessive reaction that observers grew curious as to why Reid felt so strongly....

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: blm; bundy; bunkerville; economy; nevada
Comments?
1 posted on 04/20/2014 12:27:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ol’ Jim Pinky Pinkerton.

Haven’t seen anything by him for a while.

Maybe I just missed it.


2 posted on 04/20/2014 12:30:34 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When the Article V constitution convention meets, they need to consider the following:

“The United States Government shall never use armed force against Citizens of the United States of American. When force is required, it shall be the responsibility, and administered under the authority of, the local sheriff.”


3 posted on 04/20/2014 12:43:05 PM PDT by impactplayer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

People researching Bundy Ranch also need to read this thread, for my comments especially. Maybe a hot lead.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3146627/posts


4 posted on 04/20/2014 12:46:28 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: impactplayer

I’m real leery of a constitutional convention, for many reasons. What’s to stop OFA, Soros, Bloomberg, International ANSWER, Occupy and many other such people from showing up and obliterating the constitution? Remember: Hitler gained power through legitimate means, not a coup de etat.


5 posted on 04/20/2014 12:46:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You have no longer any cause to fear danger from abroad; your strength and power are well known throughout the civilized world, as well as the high and gallant bearing of your sons. It is from within, among yourselves, from cupidity, from corruption, from disappointed ambition, and inordinate thirst for power, that factions will be formed and liberty endangered. It is against such designs, whatever disguise the actors may assume, that you have especially to guard yourselves.

Andrew Jackson's Farewell Address 1837

6 posted on 04/20/2014 12:48:37 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals crazy!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

You know, this thing called “history” will be re-written before it will even be brought up, if ever, in school to be taught, much less be a lesson for future generations on how repulsive big government, whomever is in charge, gets to be...

It will be up to the citizens, here and now, to continue to stand up and be counted, and take the battle right back at this elected caste of liberal destructionists, and the feckless “so-called” conservatives who enabled it to get this bad, all in the name of being nice and desiring to be cast in a good way with the propaganda machine in our national media, who work directly for those destructive politicians...

Just my take on it all...


7 posted on 04/20/2014 12:50:14 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fiction. Jesus comes back in October 2014, the Raputure occurs and a signifcantly large number of people disappear all over the world. The ones left behind consist of over a billion Muslims, Harry Reid types, politicians, and former millennial agnostics and athiests who wondered where there parents disappeared to and later turned their lives over to the Lord after seeing He is real.


8 posted on 04/20/2014 12:51:28 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Most people do not think that will happen, especially the ones that desire to promote this procedure...

Those people believe they can control the delegates, and therefore correct the problems by filtering the voice of the people...

The forces of liberalism/socialism are just sitting back waiting for that opportunity, and the welcome mat will be rolled right out there in front of them and by then it’ll be too late...

Kiss the BoR’s away, and anything else that stands in the way of the Fabian socialists and their ilk...

But again, some people just do not see that potential...

And to be honest the desire to “filter” the delegation reeks of liberalism and it falls right into their template of how they conduct business in the first place...

But Nooooooo, “Steve, you need to lighten up!!! We can fix this!!!”


9 posted on 04/20/2014 12:55:07 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: stevie_d_64

The Articles of Confederation people thought they were going to “control” the Constitutional Convention. Remember?


10 posted on 04/20/2014 12:56:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: jsanders2001

Huh?


11 posted on 04/20/2014 12:57:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: All
.....the standoff between the government and the Nevada ranching family got rough as the govt flexed its federally financed muscle. Members of the Bundy family were physically assaulted by armed federal officers, numerous cows were shot dead, and protesters faced threats of federal gunfire for merely expressing their outrage. But the national perception is that a resounding victory against a tyrannical federally financed agency took place on the Bundy ranch.

Nevada Dimocrat Sen. Harry Reid had the audacity to call the peaceful pistol packers, ranchers, cattlemen, patriots, flag bearers, cowboys and cowgirls "domestic terrorists."

Keep in mind, the Reid family has enormous financial interests in the area. Harry seems to have access to billions of federal dollars that he spends as he pleases....with no accountability.

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At first glance this episode (below) looks like money-laundering tax dollars----with Reid, aiding and abetting Obama's desperation to use tax dollars to buy aye votes for Obamacare.

NOTE THAT Landrieu was willing to take $200 million for her aye vote------but Harry "accidentally" gave her $4.3 BILLION. The spread is enormous....what exactly happened to the rest of the money?

The billions could have been laundered through Landrieu then redeposited elsewhere.

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THE GRUESOME DETAILS: In the fall of 2009, Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev) was trying to get the necessary 60 Dimocrat votes to pass Obamacare. He needed every Dimocrat on board, which gave waffling senators a great deal of leverage.

In Sen Mary Landrieu's case, she connivingly saw that selling her aye vote could get her maybe $200 million federal dollars.

Obama complied. Reid chalked up another vote for Obamacare. Not $200 million---but $4.3 billion for Landrieu was attached to the Obamacare bill.

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Where'd the money go? How $4.3 billion to Landrieu was attached to the Obamacare bill, and how Obama and Reid connived to get it there, is yet another indictment of the Obamacare atrocity.

The Reid/Obama payoff to Landrieu should be investigated:

(1) as an indication of how EVERY Democrat came to vote for Obamacare in an historic straight party line vote,

(2) how federal monies might have been laundered into the campaign coffers of Dummycrats,

(3) how federal monies came to be used as Harry's personal piggy bank.

12 posted on 04/20/2014 1:00:52 PM PDT by Liz
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To: missnry
"...How then shall we perform it? At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant to step the ocean and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia, and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest, with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force take a drink from the Ohio or make a track on the Blue Ridge in a trial of a thousand years.

At what point, then, is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, If it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us; it cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time, or die by suicide."

Abraham Lincoln, The Young Men's Lyceum of Springfield, Illinois, January 27, 1838

13 posted on 04/20/2014 1:01:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: All
BLM Whistleblower Rusty Hill uncovered corporations and shady land deals connected to Reid Bunkerville LLC, Zion Bank Corp, and BLM lands surrounding the Bundy properties.

Every account held by Reid Bunkerville LLC (essentially secret bank accounts), and Reid-related energy/land accounts at Zion Bank Corp need to be unveiled ASAP.

Nevada flag bearers, pistol packers, ranchers, cowboys, cowgirls, militias, cattlemen, landowners/taxpayers, Bundy sympathizers, Oathkeepers, and other patriots, must demand the Bank Secrecy Act be employed to uncover and prosecute all of Reid's shady dealings.

Under the Bank Secrecy Act, banks are required to establish, implement and maintain programs designed to detect and report suspicious activity indicative of money laundering, and that might be indicative of govt fraud, embezzlement, and other financial crimes.

“The Bank Secrecy Act was enacted to protect the public from harm by identifying and detecting money laundering from criminal enterprises, terrorism, tax evasion, govt fraud, bank fraud, or other unlawful activities,” the special agent in charge for Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation, explained.

L/E needs to examine the above-referenced bank and Reid-related accounts. ASAP.

<><> Joint bank accounts might be used to facilitate the transfer of govt funds. Govt monies may pay for personal and private expenses, credit cards, real estate subsidies and vehicle purchases.

<><> To cover their tracks, the principled might create fake invoices to show that money deposited into accounts was being used for legitimate purposes.

The scheme might be advanced by issuing phony statements of payments from federal and state sources that actually covered the transfer of funds for the principles own use.

<><> L/E is directed to get ahold of: (1) copies of Reid checks, (2) wire transfers, (3) account statements, (4) invoices, (5) bills, (6) delivery tickets, (7) correspondence including e-mail, contracts, loan agreements, and, (8) any other books or records. L/E should also explore (a) monies paid to brokers, sub-brokers, (b) family members, (c) mortgage brokers, (d) financial managers, and, (e) real estate agents, brokers, and developers.

<><> L/E should scrutinize bank accounts for suspicious activities: (A) large deposits, (B) funds transferred from one account into another, (C) frequent requests for withdrawals.

<><> Bank records might also show diversions to other LLcs, secret offshore accounts, to operate personal businesses. Fraud can also be facilitated by withdrawals, gift cards purchases, credit card purchases and intrabank transfers from seemingly legit accounts into personal accounts on orders of the accountholders.

<><> A huge tipoff is whether bank withdrawals support payments for real estate, investment and stock holdings, vehicles, offshore travel and so on.

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REFERENCE When Madoff went to jail, investigators found Ponzi King Bernie had stashed billions offshore---into a labyrinth of financial and business entities.

COLLUSION AND CONSPIRACIES GALORE Some $8.9 billion was funneled to Madoff through a dozen so-called feeder funds based in Europe, the Caribbean and Central America......a labyrinth of hedge funds, management companies and service providers that, to unsuspecting outsiders, seemed to compose a formidable system of checks and balances. But the purpose of this complex architecture was just the opposite: the feeder funds provided different modes for directing money to Madoff in order to avoid scrutiny.

14 posted on 04/20/2014 1:01:26 PM PDT by Liz
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To: jsanders2001
jsanders2001:".. a signifcantly large number of people disappear all over the world. The ones left behind consist of over a billion Muslims,
Harry Reid types, politicians, and former millennial agnostics and athiests who wondered where there parents disappeared to
and later turned their lives over to the Lord after seeing He is real."

iS THAT CALLED THE "RAPTURE "of God's return ??
..or the "rupture" of Statism and Socialism ??

15 posted on 04/20/2014 1:01:50 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can’t blame him for wishful thinkun’, hehehe...

We do not know when the Lord will come again...

Maranatha!!!

Sorry 2DV...I had to kinda throw this out there...

Mkayyyyy???

;-)


16 posted on 04/20/2014 1:03:04 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Liz

How is any of that money changing hands legal? Does it come from their political campaign contributions or is it somehow taxpayer dollars (which would be illegal use)?


17 posted on 04/20/2014 1:03:05 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Socialism cannot exist in abundance, because anything in abundance automatically becomes an alternative currency, which subverts the control of the state over things.

It can be said that the only place socialism can actually work is on the Moon, where *nothing* exists in abundance, so everything *must* be rationed.

Socialists realize this, so work very hard both to create shortage even in the middle of abundance; or at least the *appearance* of shortage. So they constantly campaign to “raise public awareness” that shortage exists in abundance.

As in, here we sit on a raft in the middle of a fresh water lake, full of potable water; yet they try and convince us that drinking water is in shortage, so we must do what they want and they will ration it for us. They then angrily attack anyone trying to get water for themselves by reaching overboard with a cup.

Look at food in America for a moment. One of the biggest problems that farmers have is that while a scant crop can be financially hard on them, a bumper crop can wipe them out. Even at the height of the Dust Bowl, when thousands of farms were destroyed, the farmers outside the region still produced so much food that it was not worth it to ship to market.

So even today, we have vastly more food than we could eat. So why is there the prospect of high inflation in food prices soon? Well, it has nothing to do with the food itself, and everything to do with bad government.

One final note is that “austerity” is often a lie. When the problem is that a government is too large and spends too much money, an “austerity” program that hurts the public but leaves the government untouched is the height of hypocrisy.


18 posted on 04/20/2014 1:04:32 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

WHAT IS A PATRIOT?

PATRIOTS are not “Revolutionaries” trying to overthrow the government of the United States.

PATRIOTS are “Counter-Revolutionaries” trying to prevent the government of the United States,
from overthrowing the Constitution of the United States. - Unknown Author


19 posted on 04/20/2014 1:09:27 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I WANT IT!!! for my children, my grand children and chillins everywhere!


20 posted on 04/20/2014 1:10:41 PM PDT by null and void (...if you are too sure of your place in heaven you might be too arrogant to actually get there.)
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To: Kackikat
I’m sure there’s money laundering going on with federal dollars. It is astonishingly easy for a pol to steal govt money for his/her own use.

Now what perked my interest was the Nevada land transfers with no money changing hands, or so it was recorded on the titles.

CNBC's American Greed did the segment on a huge land fraud in Florida---an elaborate scheme that fooled retirees, seasoned real estate agents and big companies alike. The list of alleged victims is still growing, long after the crooks fled to Russia.

Allegations include claims that the Florida-based Sky Development Group:

- Forged deeds and sold more than $1M n worth of property it didn't own in one Citrus County development, Citrus Springs.

- Took millions of dollars for land without turning over the property to the buyers.

- Referred buyers to a fake title company managed by the crooks to close land deals.

- Took money for new homes it never built or never finished.

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Rory Reid is a lawyer; he claims he received "legal fees" via an account at Bonneville Bank. The fees from I Works’ general ledger that same day shows $50,000 was paid to RMR Consulting for “legal fees.” Another $200,015 was paid Dec. 2..

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We need to study the complex scheme one NY law firm engaged in before it was closed down for fraud.

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3/7/14 NY DAILY NEWS REPORT By Shayna Jacobs --Manhattan law firm top executives indicted in book-cooking scheme.... \three top executives of shuttered Manhattan firm firm Dewey & LeBoeuf were indicted Thursday in a $200 million book-cooking operation. They pleaded not guilty to grand larceny, scheme to defraud, securities fraud and falsifying business records.

Principles pleaded not guilty to grand larceny, scheme to defraud, securities fraud and falsifying business records. The fraud involved swindling big cash from insurance companies and financial institutions over a four-year period. --SNIP--

SOURCE Jefferson Siegel/New York Daily News http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/law-firm-execs-indicted-book-cooking-scheme-article-1.1713723#ixzz2vqNjKHQR

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ZEROHEDGE.COM---The Law Firm's Fraudulent Methods

RELATED CHARGES----MISLEADING BOND OFFERING--SEC filed a related civil lawsuit against Davis, DiCarmine, Sanders and two former Dewey finance officials, finance director Frank Canellas and former controller Thomas Mullikin. The SEC complaint accused the former executives of defrauding investors by misleading them about Dewey's finances in marketing materials for a $150 million bond offering in 2010.

By the end of 2008, the Schemers had created a document they called the “Master Plan” that described certain fraudulent accounting adjustments that the Schemers decided to pursue as part of the Scheme. From in or about the end of 2008 until the Firm’s bankruptcy in 2012, the Schemers input numerous of these and other fraudulent adjustments, and engaged in other fraudulent conduct, most of which made it appear that the Firm had either increased revenue, decreased expenses, or limited distributions to partners.

Some of these fraudulent adjustments and acts were:

a. Reversing disbursement write-offs – From 2008 through 2011, the Schemers improperly reversed millions of dollars of write-offs of client disbursements that the Firm had no intention or reasonable expectation of collecting.

b. Reclassifying disbursement payments – From 2008 through 2011, the Schemers improperly reclassified millions of dollars of payments that had been applied to client disbursements during the year and applied the payments instead to outstanding fee amounts.

c. Reclassifying Of Counsel payments – From 2008 through 2011, the Schemers reclassified millions of dollars of compensation to Of Counsel lawyers as equity partner compensation. Historically, Of Counsel compensation had been treated as an expense in the Firm’s financial statements.

d. Reversing credit card write-offs – In 2008 the Firm initially properly wrote off more than $2.4 million in charges from an American Express card associated with defendant SANDERS that had not previously been expensed and were not chargeable to clients. For year-end 2008, the Schemers fraudulently reversed this write-off and hid the amount in the Firm’s books as an unbilled client disbursement receivable. Each subsequent year, the Schemers initially wrote this amount off, but then reversed the write-off at year-end. The amount remained on the Firm’s books as an unbilled client disbursement receivable at the time of the bankruptcy.

e. Reclassifying salaried partner expenses – In 2008, the Schemers improperly reclassified as equity partner compensation millions of dollars in compensation paid to, and amortization of benefits related to, two salaried, non-equity partners. Similar amounts had previously been treated as expenses on the Firm’s financial statements, so the reclassification had the effect of reducing Firm expenses. This change in treatment was neither disclosed to the Firm’s auditors nor disclosed on the Firm’s audited financial statements. In later years, the compensation paid to these two salaried partners was classified as equity partner compensation.

f. Seeking backdated checks – During at least two year-ends from 2008 through 2011, the Schemers sought backdated checks from clients to post to the prior year. At the end of each of the Scheme years the Schemers engaged in efforts to hide the date on which checks were received by the Firm. These efforts minimized the risk that the Firm’s auditors would discover that December checks received in January, including backdated checks, were being posted to the prior year.

g. Applying partner capital as fee revenue – For year-end 2009, more than $1 million that had been contributed by a partner to satisfy his capital requirement was applied as a fee payment for the client of a different partner. This amount was backed out of fees and applied to the partner’s capital account during 2010, but for year-end 2010 it was again applied as a fee payment for the same client.

h. Applying loan repayments as revenue – In 2008, pursuant to defendant DAVIS’s authorization, the Firm took on $2.4 million in bank loans that benefitted defendants DICARMINE and SANDERS. In early 2012, defendants DICARMINE and SANDERS repaid the Firm the final $1.2 million owed under the loans but structured the transaction so the loan repayment would increase the Firm’s revenue for 2011.

Bottom line: on or about March 2012, the Scheme had collapsed in on itself. For years, the Schemers had been fraudulently claiming revenue that the Firm did not have and pushing expenses and financial obligations off into the future. The Firm could no longer pay partners enough to prevent their departure, and the Schemers could no longer fool the Firm’s lenders, investors, and others. The Firm declared bankruptcy; thousands lost their jobs; and the Firm’s creditors were left owed hundreds of millions of dollars.

21 posted on 04/20/2014 1:10:57 PM PDT by Liz
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To: jsanders2001
Jesus comes back in October 2014, the Raputure occurs and a signifcantly large number of people disappear all over the world.

Because you have identified the time, it won't be then.

22 posted on 04/20/2014 1:11:08 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: impactplayer
The United States Government shall never use armed force against Citizens of the United States of American.

Really?

US citizens convert to Islam, go to Yemen for training, and 20 of them return. Launch a Beslan-style heavily armed terrorist attack on a local middle school.

And we're constitutionally forbidden to repel armed attack on the USA using military force simply because the attackers are citizens?

Also, have you considered the challenges involved with getting accurate citizenship status info from attackers?

23 posted on 04/20/2014 1:12:07 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: stevie_d_64
But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
~Mark 13:32
24 posted on 04/20/2014 1:13:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Liz

You have hit nail on the head!

The Solendor Solar company Zero pushed to get get the loan approved went belly up only AFTER Obama got at least a half million in donations...same as with another solar company. This is an intentional theft of taxpayer dollars, and WHY CONGRESS IS NOT PROSECUTING IS BEYOND ME!

The fact the other politicians on all sides do not recognize this corruption and theft our taxpayer dollars in the trillions.... makes me think they are all crooks on both sides of the aisle or the NSA Democrats have them all blackmailed.


25 posted on 04/20/2014 1:17:25 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Today, in the year 2064, as we look back over the last 50 years,.....

World wide grain production has not yet recovered from the onset of global cooling in 2017....and the Sun has only produced a few sunspots since....

The best forecast of scientists is that at least another 50 years before Sunspots re appear and the 11 year sunspot cycle starts up.

In other news ice breakers have opened southern ports for the first time in 15 years....allowing key exports of coal, petroleum and medical supplies to reach a frozen Europe.

26 posted on 04/20/2014 1:21:44 PM PDT by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: Liz

Liz, important stuff coming from me on Rusty Hill thread. Please call in the hounds.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3146627/posts?page=22


27 posted on 04/20/2014 1:32:17 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: DaxtonBrown

Gotcha.


28 posted on 04/20/2014 1:34:37 PM PDT by Liz
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To: jsanders2001

At sunset on October 22rd?


29 posted on 04/20/2014 1:38:03 PM PDT by null and void (...if you are too sure of your place in heaven you might be too arrogant to actually get there.)
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To: Liz

If this guy, Jared Shafer, is linked to Reid as well as Bruce Gamett and land in Bunkerville, it is game over.

http://guardianlv.com/2013/10/patience-bristol-arraigned-on-robbery-charges/


30 posted on 04/20/2014 1:50:42 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The federal government is clearly too big when a “land management” agency can afford to have its own sniper team. A government agency that has more money than it needs to conduct its core functions is an agency that will busy itself with finding more things to control and ways to extend its power. This is the Iron Law of bureaucracy.

A government that can create its own money does not have to ask taxpayers for permission to spend more to feed its self-serving bureaucratic activities. When states start calling for a Convention to consider amendments to the Constitution, the first topic must be to restrain federal spending. A government that must live within its means is a government that must focus on the important things rather than imposing evermore intrusive laws and regulations having the weight of law.

Every day more people are coming to the judgment that a carefully organized effort to repair the constitution via the States’ power to propose and ratify amendments has less risk to our liberty and prosperity than the present trajectory of the federal government and especially the federal bureaucracy.

Near-infinite money enables near-infinite government.


31 posted on 04/20/2014 6:40:02 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat

The US legislature has never authorized these agencies to arm themselves. As far as I’m concerned they are acting unlawfully and if they run around making armed incursions into sovereign states they may get their butts shot off by the sovereign citizens. None of these jumped up forest rangers are law enforcement officers.

Governor Sandoval is a disgrace. He should have stepped in when this first started up and had the staters run these guys back across the border and taken control of the situation.

All this talk about a raid on the Bundy’s home is insane. Mr. Bundy has broken no laws. He is in violation of a couple of federal regulations. You dont’ get arrested for that you get fined.

Its going to be beyond interesting to see government running a SWAT style raid on the Bundy ranch with Sheriff Mack, Stewrt Rhoades, Chuck Baldwin, a bunch of legislators and others of high repute in residence.


32 posted on 04/20/2014 7:05:25 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m not jumping for joy at the idea myself.


33 posted on 04/21/2014 12:29:06 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Lazamataz
Because you have identified the time, it won't be then.

Wait...wut? Didn't you get the memo?

34 posted on 04/21/2014 12:33:55 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: impactplayer

Sounds like an incentive for the executive branch to “own” all the sheriffs.


35 posted on 04/21/2014 12:35:41 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Yes, but they stand for local elections - at the county level. Hard to control them all.


36 posted on 04/21/2014 1:04:18 PM PDT by impactplayer
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