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Ohio teen recounts being beaten, robbed by 2 thugs after stopping to help vehicle
The New York Daily News ^ | April 17, 2014 | Nina Golgowski

Posted on 04/20/2014 10:35:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

An Ohio woman has recounted the moment an act of kindness in helping a perceived pair of broken-down strangers left her being dragged, beaten and robbed on the side of a road.

"Before I could finish asking him if they were OK he grabbed me by the hair and said, 'if you scream I'll hit you even harder,'" 19-year-old Caleigh Roelfs recalled to the Daily News Thursday.

It was 2 p.m. Monday along Napoleon's Route 6 when the engaged criminal psychology student spotted a van with its emergency lights flashing on the side of the road.

"My dad and brothers, even my mom, have always stopped. That's how I was raised," she said of her immediate impulse to help.

But within seconds of the van's passenger stepping out of his vehicle, she lost all control.

The man, she described as a 6-foot black male with a shaved head, face and spider web tattoo on his left hand, violently grabbed her while she was still seated in her car....

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: crime
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1 posted on 04/20/2014 10:35:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I personally wouldn’t stop to help anybody, which is unfortunate. Most people have cellphones and have cellphone chargers in their cars, so they can get help if they need it.

If perchance the situation looks serious, I’d probably be inclined to call the local police to look into it. It’s just too chancy today to do that.


2 posted on 04/20/2014 10:41:30 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No good deed goes unpunished.


3 posted on 04/20/2014 10:42:19 PM PDT by mylife
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I feel bad for her but she is lucky it did not go worse. I hope she learns from this real life experience in criminal psychology. I think everybody, but especially women, should carry a weapon.


4 posted on 04/20/2014 10:43:15 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Disarmed and stupid? This woman is lucky to be alive.

The government wants to disarm us in the face of the feral mob they created? No thanks.

5 posted on 04/20/2014 10:43:35 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The man, she described as a 6-foot black male with a shaved head, face and spider web tattoo on his left hand, violently grabbed her while she was still seated in her car.

The description is lacking, There were two perps.


6 posted on 04/20/2014 10:46:26 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I just laid there with my eyes closed freaking out," she said. "I kept telling myself if I can't see him he can't see me."

Pretty crappy psychology.

7 posted on 04/20/2014 10:46:53 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Jet Jaguar

Somethings screwy.


8 posted on 04/20/2014 10:47:32 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Jet Jaguar

She probably didn’t get a good look at the second suspect, because the first one was busy punching her in the face.


9 posted on 04/20/2014 10:48:32 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: mylife

She certainly wasn’t in a position to run away. The only thing she could do in that situation is just completely not resist and hope for the best.


10 posted on 04/20/2014 10:49:23 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Still don’t believe in open or concealed carry? I bet she does now. If only the same could happen to Bloomberg. Only in this particular case it wouldn’t have because he wouldn’t have stopped to help...well maybe but just enough to slow and listen to the woman scream for his own personal pleasure


11 posted on 04/20/2014 10:50:07 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have 1 things to say about this, and I’ll say the serious one first, a woman alone is a fool to stop and offer help to anyone, even in daylight, unless she’s the Marisa Tomei character from “My cousin vinnie” and even then maybe not.

Second: will John Derbyshire please pick up the courtesy phone?


12 posted on 04/20/2014 10:55:58 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Jet Jaguar

Yeah, ok, it’s true I have a third thing to say, the story does sound a wee bit fishy.


13 posted on 04/20/2014 10:56:55 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: jocon307

Seriously?

What do you suppose is her angle, worldwide fame and fortune?


14 posted on 04/20/2014 10:59:01 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: jsanders2001

Mr. Bloomberg has armed bodyguards and wouldn’t stop for you if you were on fire.


15 posted on 04/20/2014 10:59:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: jsanders2001
If only the same could happen to Bloomberg.

Impossible. I'm certain that Bloomberg is surrounded by armed bodyguards. So he can use guns for protection, but you can't. And that's because he's one of the elite, and you aren't. It's just that simple.

16 posted on 04/20/2014 10:59:41 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

> The description is lacking, There were two perps.

The next time you are out at night in the dark and see two black males tell me how much you van see. Black males blend in real well with the dark especially if they are wearing dark clothing.


17 posted on 04/20/2014 11:00:01 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: mylife

Napoleon, a small town of about 9,000, is nearby Toledo, one county removed. I bet the perps are not from Napoleon.


18 posted on 04/20/2014 11:05:08 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Was it Obama’s son?


19 posted on 04/20/2014 11:05:36 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: mylife
"I kept telling myself if I can't see him he can't see me."

There's a point where rationality shuts down and instinct takes over. So now not only does she know about criminal psychology, but the other side of the coin as well.
20 posted on 04/20/2014 11:10:26 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: mylife
19 year old woman stopping to help two fully grown males?

Danger Will Robinson!

I don't care what color the perps were.

I'm a pretty big guy and I'd be VERY wary of this situation.

One time when I was young and stupid, a friend and I stopped to help two guys stranded on the side of the road.

It was dark, and they were out of gas.

We had a gas can and poured it into the tank and gave the carburetor a sip and they were on their way.

The driver thanked us and said, "you really helped us, my buddy has to get out of the state, fast."

Now, my friend was a huge guy and an ex-jailbird, but looking back, I think of just how many things could have gone wrong.

I'd never conceive of doing something like that today.

21 posted on 04/20/2014 11:12:18 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

i can’t do this but if a person really looks in trouble i’d call 911 and tell them the mile markers. i have obligations to my family, my mom and wife and her mom in particular. and my now-old pets who totally depend on me to doctor them,’some several times a day.


22 posted on 04/20/2014 11:15:01 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So she is a criminal psychology student.

Either she hasn’t been paying attention or she is getting the bleeding heart Liberal version of criminal psychology where criminal behavior is caused by an unjust society, poverty and social injustice.

23 posted on 04/20/2014 11:15:29 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Jonty30

One day in Seattle I was in a not busy industrial area when I saw parked on the side of the road a big older truck that a box behind the cab - the kind with a roll up door. The engine hood was up and a guy was standing by the the open back door of the truck holding battery cables and he waved them at me. I got out of there as fast as I could. I could have just seen myself being thrown into the back of that truck.

Come to think of it wonder why he was at the back of the truck next to that open door when if his battery was dead he would have needed to hook the cables to the engine at the front of the truck. Hmmm

Maybe it was nothing..but maybe not.


24 posted on 04/20/2014 11:17:38 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These guys are going to make it tougher for other black men when their cars breaks down. Soon, no one’s gonna want to stop and help black guys in trouble!


25 posted on 04/20/2014 11:19:39 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: jsanders2001; Jet Jaguar
It was daytime.

But anyway just because the article doesn't describe the other man doesn't mean that she didn't get a good look at him and tell the cops what he looks like.

She's lucky they didn't rape her.

26 posted on 04/20/2014 11:21:25 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: MNDude

You make me laugh.


27 posted on 04/20/2014 11:29:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Pontiac

I’ll take door number two, Monty.


28 posted on 04/20/2014 11:32:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You’ve won a NEW CAR!!!

DING DING DING


29 posted on 04/20/2014 11:39:01 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: jocon307
Second: will John Derbyshire please pick up the courtesy phone?

I thought of him too. If the girl had been Rich Lowry's daughter...

30 posted on 04/20/2014 11:46:35 PM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: Rudder

I was raised around Napoleon and live in Toledo presently and I would bet that you are correct. Scene safety is the first thing you evaluate before rendering aid, even for professionals.


31 posted on 04/20/2014 11:54:12 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: mylife

I used to stop to help folks ALL the time!!!! Do not any longer haven’t
for years just WAY to dangerous today!!!!!


32 posted on 04/20/2014 11:54:37 PM PDT by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: Jonty30; shibumi

I stop for bikers.

That’s about it.


33 posted on 04/21/2014 12:00:40 AM PDT by Salamander (Agent Of Fortune)
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To: mylife

That is what my Ball Pythons do.

Dumbest self defense strategy, ever.

Boas bite ya.

;)


34 posted on 04/21/2014 12:02:13 AM PDT by Salamander (Agent Of Fortune)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I truly dig you, man.

My whole life revolves around getting home to my dogs alive because I know my mom would have them put down before my body was cold.


35 posted on 04/21/2014 12:04:40 AM PDT by Salamander (Agent Of Fortune)
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To: Jonty30

“She certainly wasn’t in a position to run away.”

She was still in the car. Put it in gear and drag the sob


36 posted on 04/21/2014 12:14:44 AM PDT by Figment
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To: jsanders2001

“The next time you are out at night in the dark and see two black males tell me how much you van see.”

It was 2pm, daylight


37 posted on 04/21/2014 12:18:06 AM PDT by Figment
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Bill Cosby's kid was killed this way (shot).
always call; the hwy. patrol first,
then swing around after their arrival.

38 posted on 04/21/2014 2:38:54 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun. Cattlegate..0'Caligula / 0'Reid? ;-)
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To: boop

Some ‘men’ ay? Gotta be a low life POS to prey on a woman who is ‘helping’ them in kind while they steal and mug her over. How such dirty butt holes sleep at night is beyond me but karma will show up at the appropriate time.


39 posted on 04/21/2014 2:55:45 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Criminal psychology student huh?

I guess she found out that that educational farce didn’t prepare her for the real world did it?

Well I guess a few minutes with those guys qualified her to receive a PHD in criminal psychology didn’t it?

What a worthless profession.


40 posted on 04/21/2014 2:58:40 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That would make for a great bumper sticker.


41 posted on 04/21/2014 3:10:22 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: jospehm20

She is lucky, and less naive now. Hope she shares this important lesson with others...


42 posted on 04/21/2014 4:11:48 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

“......a 6-foot black male”..........

And the woman stopped to help the guy? Guess how many times she will ever consider helping ANYONE from now on?

Too bad she did have a revolver in her purse and shot the bastard between the eyes.


43 posted on 04/21/2014 4:21:51 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Secret Agent Man

I liked your post #22. I totally agree that you have obligations to significant other people—and in your case, pets—in your life and you should not put your life in jeopardy in situations such as the one at issue.


44 posted on 04/21/2014 4:30:16 AM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: mylife

+ 1,000

Sad, but there was a time that we helped each other in this society. Hasn’t been that way in a long time—probably before I was born.

Unfortunately, this poor fellow learned the hard way.


45 posted on 04/21/2014 4:31:19 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Double-bad...I should’ve read before posting above—this was a woman! What the hell was she thinking?


46 posted on 04/21/2014 4:32:27 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From the article, “Asked if she would ever stop again she replied, “Not by myself. Never again”.

I’m not defending this young woman’s decision to stop. That being said, I understand her statement that she was brought up that way. Her Mom, Dad and brothers have always stopped. She’s 19 and perhaps... her parents have shielded her from the dangers of this world and expected their kids to help others. I was raised in a different type of area. You don’t stop unless: it is a Mom with kids or an older person. This is what saddens me: our society has become so violent that good people can no longer offer aid. I thank God that this gal wasn’t raped and had her throat slit. She learned a new life lesson.. and unfortunate one but this incident (believe it or not) may keep her safer in the future. IMHO.


47 posted on 04/21/2014 4:34:16 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Progov

“Aren’t those unfortunate young people already dumb enough?”

Hopefully the lesson is learned; she shouldn’t have stopped even if the guys were white.


48 posted on 04/21/2014 4:41:29 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: MNDude
Soon, no one’s gonna want to stop and help black guys in trouble!

And that includes other black guys.

49 posted on 04/21/2014 4:41:53 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“criminal psychology student”
probably a bleeding-heart liberal who thinks that certain segments of society are poor, oppressed and downtrodden.

I doubt she learned a valuable lesson in reality.


50 posted on 04/21/2014 4:43:06 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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