Skip to comments.Oklahoma militia gears up to fight with feds
Posted on 04/21/2014 12:43:54 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
OKLAHOMA - A dispute over land in Nevada between rancher Cliven Bundy and the Federal Government began decades ago.
Bundy says his familys cattle have grazed on the land without interference since 1870.
The Bureau of Land Management says Bundy hadnt paid his grazing fees since 1993, owing the government more than 1 million dollars.
The B.L.M. says Bundy was allowing his cattle to graze illegally, which triggered a forced round-up of about 400 of Bundys cattle just last week. The cows were later released.
Organizers with the Oklahoma Militia say they have members in Nevada who say Bundys cattle were unlawfully rounded up by the B.L.M.
Militia member Scott Shaw comments on the round-up evidently in America we dont actually own the property anymore, if you ever did.
The round-up sparked an armed standoff, but it wasnt the Bundy family who owns the cattle, it was militia members from across the nation going up against the B.L.M.
Oklahoma Senator Jim Inhofe weighed in on the matter Youve got a bunch of people there trying to take the law into their own hands and they shouldnt be doing that and the bureau of land management is not government-owned, its publicly owned, theres a big difference there. I blame both sides.
Here in Oklahoma, militia members say they have nearly 50,000 volunteers. Members say they are taking Bundys side and fear this governmental practice could spread to the Sooner State.
Scott Shaw says with all of the recent constitutional infringements by the Federal Government, the Oklahoma volunteer militia is ready to take up arms if needed. Its up to the feds, the balls in their court! You can do this legally or if you want to try to do a land grab violently, you can do that, were going to resist you!
Shaw says they havent had to defend Oklahoma from the Feds yet, but says its beginning to become a concern.
Just look around the country they are doing it everywhere. If they can do it in Nevada, they can do it in Colorado, Texas. I mean whats to stop them from coming to Oklahoma? The only thing to stop them is we the people.
“The only thing to stop them is we the people.
He is correct. Congress sure as hell isn’t doing anything.
Obama needs Marshall Law before the November election date when the democrats get snuffed.
It’s no accident Harry Reid started this.
Explain please about the Reid comment.
Since congress won’t do anything, it is up to the people.
We’ll have a better outcome if we send our agents, the states, to calmly sit down together in an amendment convention work out a plan to restore our freedoms.
Some speculate that Reid is behind the long-term running off of the ranchers to build up his own holdings. See above thread regarding property owned near the Bundy ranch held by Reid Bunkerville LLC.
And/or Reid’s inflammatory statement calling the Bundy’s and their supporters “Domestic Terrorists”.
Reid’s personal and political gain.
Two birds, one stone.
Very courageous, Senator. /s
I support Bundy too:I wish i had the time to join them ,
I agree. It needs to happen soon. It is encouraging that several of the western states are meeting to resolve the insane federal land ownership situation there.
I caught that too.
Obama needs Marshall Law before the November election date when the democrats get snuffed.
Its no accident Harry Reid started this.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Agreed, in spades.
and the bureau of land management is not government-owned, its publicly owned, theres a big difference there. I blame both sides. ....Explain that to me,please Why is a ‘publicly owned’ entity collecting millions for a “Goverment” entity?
Wow, he took a huge political risk with that one.
Inhofe is flat out wrong. There is never any justification for the regime to seize private property. Yet we turn a blind eye when it happens (drug dealers, tax delinquents, etc.)because those are “bad guys”. It may be true, but it is NOT the regime’s place to do so before a judge and jury of a man’s peers decide.
“First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist....”
Cuz the irs can’t count any higher...
Totally agree, folks need to tread with caution here. I’ve read some interviews with “militia-men” (FED planted infiltrators) who were hell bent on opening-fire on BLM folks. You play right into their hand with this type of talk/rhetoric.
Organize, fine....be ready....fine. Let them start this. They are begging for some trigger-happy, hot-headed, militia idiot to instigate a fight so they can throw their entire weight down on the people.
All they need is an excuse.
“The B.L.M. says Bundy was allowing his cattle to graze illegally, which triggered a forced round-up of about 400 of Bundys cattle just last week. The cows were later released.”
Bullish!t.. many of them were wantonly slaughtered and dumped into a pit. Effing liars.
This is public land that's open range that means it's the governments responsibly to fence the cattle out not the Bundys .
People. It’s martial law, not Marshall law.
Europeans are determined to start WWIII
Democrats are determined to start Civil War II
The Obama Media is determined to help them both succeed.
I don’t think the BLM expected what happened. Gov’t agencies are probably busy working on their future plans for such encounters, but the Bundy think took them off their game. I say keep it up.
That is rather short-sighted, Senator. That is true events leading up to the first shot in most wars.
When your colleague and majority leader Reid is calling American citizens “domestic terrorists” just for standing up to an out-of-control government, that only adds gasoline to the flames. Not to mention that Reid and his son have financial interests in the events. Note, Senator, that your colleague makes those incendiary remarks from the well of the Senate, where he is legally protected.
I think getting to where “we” (patriots) want to get (greatl reduced govt footprint) is rather like doing the trim work in a house with a chain saw. Meaning, “it won’t be pretty but the house will, at the end of the day, be trimmed out”.
Bunkerville, like Concord, was opening day.
Who once said “your either part of the problem or the solution”....
Well Inhofe played safe. Blame both sides. Why not just keep quiet like the rest of them?
VERY good point!
Isn’t that how CW I started? (Ft. Sumter)
Absolutely “right on”. This is not by accident, it is the purpose and intent of the Socialist government and those taking advantage of their positions to benefit their desires, rather than the laws.
God help us, direct our actions and protect thy people, America, and all seeking to love their neighbors, in Jesus name, amen
I know that, I was in military intelligence. LOL
Also there's an unwritten code between the ranchers that ,each had their own range they could graze on , separated by a creek,stream,road,some other natural boundary .
And I've been on both sides of the open range laws at different times.
This sounds like treason to me.
If this group were led by a guy named, I dunno, Osama, they would be labeled terrorists hell bent on destroying America
Congress is part of the problem. The politicos have no spine unless their masters pull the strings taught.
Looks like another fake insurrection operation by politicos with their ill gotten incomes as an excuse to violate the rights of more honest Americans. Be nonpolitical, folks. Give no respect to what is not respectable. Do what is right, learn, do things for yourselves and save. Let the default process runs its course to depose the morally bankrupt.
“He is correct. Congress sure as hell isnt doing anything.”
It has never been more important to be loud and clear. PICK YOUR FIGHTS! Don’t engage them unless the cause is good, or you will do more harm than good to the cause of liberty.
Make sure your men are organized, and disciplined. Make sure not one of them ever shoots first.
Good, that makes them a target if you ask me.
It won't matter who shoots first, the government thugs will be the innocent parties.
Of course, the next move he makes won't be an accident at all.
Its up to the feds, the balls in their court!
The writer needs to put an apostrophe between the l and the s....ball’s.
Inhofe shows on whose side the politicians stand.
“...the government thugs will be the innocent parties.”
It will soon be time for the gov’t thugs to be the dead parties. Each time this happens it will be harder for these gov’t thuggery agencies to find willing ‘thugs’ to do their dirty work.
I would like for Inhofe to explain to me the difference between publicly owned and government owned. The white house is publicly owned. The government is publicly owned. Apparently Inhofe let it slip that he believes the government is no longer by the people, for the people. And he’s a part of the government.
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