Posted on 04/21/2014 12:43:54 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
(VIDEO-AT-LINK)
OKLAHOMA - A dispute over land in Nevada between rancher Cliven Bundy and the Federal Government began decades ago.
Bundy says his family’s cattle have grazed on the land without interference since 1870.
The Bureau of Land Management says Bundy hadn’t paid his grazing fees since 1993, owing the government more than 1 million dollars.
The B.L.M. says Bundy was allowing his cattle to graze illegally, which triggered a forced round-up of about 400 of Bundy’s cattle just last week. The cows were later released.
Organizers with the Oklahoma Militia say they have members in Nevada who say Bundy’s cattle were unlawfully rounded up by the B.L.M.
Militia member Scott Shaw comments on the round-up “evidently in America we don’t actually own the property anymore, if you ever did.”
The round-up sparked an armed standoff, but it wasn’t the Bundy family who owns the cattle, it was militia members from across the nation going up against the B.L.M.
Oklahoma Senator Jim Inhofe weighed in on the matter “You’ve got a bunch of people there trying to take the law into their own hands and they shouldn’t be doing that and the bureau of land management is not government-owned, its publicly owned, there’s a big difference there. I blame both sides.”
Here in Oklahoma, militia members say they have nearly 50,000 volunteers. Members say they are taking Bundy’s side and fear this governmental practice could spread to the Sooner State.
Scott Shaw says with all of the recent constitutional infringements by the Federal Government, the Oklahoma volunteer militia is ready to take up arms if needed. “It’s up to the feds, the balls in their court! You can do this legally or if you want to try to do a land grab violently, you can do that, were going to resist you!”
Shaw says they haven’t had to defend Oklahoma from the Feds yet, but says its beginning to become a concern.
“Just look around the country they are doing it everywhere. If they can do it in Nevada, they can do it in Colorado, Texas. I mean what’s to stop them from coming to Oklahoma? The only thing to stop them is we the people.”
Cool, I did not know of him.
I think there is a lot more support for an Article V state convention to propose amendments than we realize. Yes, resistance on display in the western states is very encouraging.
Less than 2 hours after the reporting on Reid and the ChiCom company land deal was put on Drudge on top dead center, they backed down.
There was also the reporter from NY that tried to defuse the confrontation.
Finally the Militia put in place elements that had the BLM Brownshirts in an impossible position. They knew that many, if not all of them, would die if they did what they were told to do.
Best outcome is if Reid’s involvement is totally exposed, before the election. With Reid gone in November, Holder is open for impeachement. With Holder gone, Obozo is open for total exposure. That will prove fatal.
Marshall is a great guy........the first thing he does is suspend the Writ of Habeas Corpus.
I too have joined the league of patriot domestic tangos who believe in the Constitution. I WILL fight for it.
It isn't; you see the founders were very specific as to what would constitute treason:
CONSTITUTION FOR THE UNITED STATES, Art III, Section. 3.If you look at the text, by using 'them' the Constitution ensures that treason can only be an offense against the several States, not the federal government; they specifically and cleverly excluded the federal government from the crime precisely because the Revolution was still recent in everyone's minds — and they knew that a central government could accrue/usurp much power to itself.
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
> Organize, fine....be ready....fine. Let them start this. They are begging for some trigger-happy, hot-headed, militia idiot to instigate a fight so they can throw their entire weight down on the people.
All they need is an excuse.
Agree. If the militia fires the first shot, the APCs and brownshirts get deployed. They would use National Guard but I think they’re sort of afraid they’d turn around and draw down on them.
> I know that, I was in military intelligence. LOL
Then you know how intellergent they were right?...lol
It’s “MARTIAL LAW” people, not ‘Marshall Law’.
Thanks!
The Feds do NOT have enough people to maintain Martial law (Note the spelling) for more than a month, at best. (Note the spelling)
Martial law is the imposition of military power over designated regions on an emergency basis. Martial law is usually imposed on a temporary basis.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was roughly the same number, or even fewer… you see, Texas is the Republican-party of the states: it talks good things but doesn't do them, it lives off a reputation that it doesn't deserve, and they have a misfounded haughty pride about their status as Texans, and so forth.
You say:
"That's pretty bold talk for a one-eyed fat man."
Then I say - "FILL YOUR HANDS YOU SON-OF-A-BIEACH"
Rooster Cogburn quote just in case...
Seriously, give me one Ted Cruz produced by wherever you're from...
When it gets down to the nitty gritty, they plan on calling in the blue hats, and the ruskies.
I like Ted Cruz, but let's face it he's not representative of Texas as a whole (in the sense of yeah, most Texans are like him
).
In fact, he's a pretty big exception/anomaly in the Republican party because he isn't all talk and no action… so you're kinda proving my point.
TX struts around and tries to present itself as all the things it was years ago (twenty? thirty? fifty? In any case, the younger generation has no experience with the actuals that produced the reputation1), just like the Republican party does trying to wave the flag and say it's the party of Reagan, principles, God-Country-Family, whatever-sounds-good-so-you'll-vote-for-Romney.
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1 &mdsah; how much does the state intrude on life? the county? the city? — is it an incredible amount compared to a half-century ago?
you’re from where?
Our legislature meets every other year. That limits political encroachment.
We have a robust primary process to get rid of GOPe/RINO/LIBS.
There will always be a fight between the takers and producers. The FED is Texas's worst enemy on this front. At least we have the best resourced, most effective front fighting against Fed takeover of every aspect of life in the USA.
By the way, there's no problem getting ammo, firearms, or canceled carry in Austin where I live (the most lib city in TX). Put that in your pipe (where ever you live) and smoke it.
"I like Ted Cruz, but let's face it he's not representative of Texas as a whole (in the sense of “yeah, most Texans are like him”). In fact, he's a pretty big exception/anomaly in the Republican party because he isn't all talk and no action… so you're kinda proving my point.Based on your irrational, uninformed discourse, you sound like someone from Democratic Underground...
So it's doing better than the rest of the unconstitutional [read socialist] states of America.
Congrats on being eaten last.
Our legislature meets every other year. That limits political encroachment.
Like other states don't?
Heck, some states have a fairly short limit on how long their legislature can be in session.
We have a robust primary process to get rid of GOPe/RINO/LIBS.
Bwahahaha — if that was true you wouldn't see people whining and crying about the demographics turning on you, or afraid that you'll turn purple
.
There will always be a fight between the takers and producers. The FED is Texas's worst enemy on this front. At least we have the best resourced, most effective front fighting against Fed takeover of every aspect of life in the USA.
Call me when there's actual fighting to be done — until then: it's just more talk.
By the way, there's no problem getting ammo, firearms, or canceled carry in Austin where I live (the most lib city in TX).
What about open carry -- wasn't it Austin where the guy was recently arrested for open-carrying a long-gun? (Could have been Houston.)
Put that in your pipe (where ever you live) and smoke it.
Can you wear your gun with you to jury duty? [Assuming it's not a federal court, but that's another contraconstitutional issue.]
Howabout polling places when you go vote?
"I like Ted Cruz, but let's face it he's not representative of Texas as a whole (in the sense of “yeah, most Texans are like him”). In fact, he's a pretty big exception/anomaly in the Republican party because he isn't all talk and no action… so you're kinda proving my point.Based on your irrational, uninformed discourse, you sound like someone from Democratic Underground...
Oh? then you're claiming that Ted Cruzes are a dime a dozen
there in TX?
If that's so, then why is it a refreshing surprise that Ted Cruz isn't a pushover? I mean, if guys like him were common, wouldn't it be par for course
to have a [TX] Senator like that?
Seriously; you're so sensitive to my admittedly offensive manner that you can't make a coherent train of thought?
I guess everything's bigger in Texas
doesn't apply to the thickness of your skin.
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