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Weed is the New Jesus in Colorado
Townhall.com ^ | April 21, 2014 | Michael Schaus

Posted on 04/21/2014 6:23:08 AM PDT by Kaslin

Sure… Sunday was Easter Sunday (the most important day of the year for the world’s 2-3 billion Christians). But, c’mon! It was 4:20 dude! And while millions of Americans flocked to their churches and Cathedrals, the Denver Post thought the front-page story of the day ought to be Colorado’s annual “toke-out” at Civic Center Park in Denver. Heck… The 15 year anniversary of the Columbine High School shooting was even pushed back to accommodate the “high times” of Civic Center potheads.

Living a mere handful of blocks from Denver’s Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception, I can personally attest to the contact high received by Colorado’s largest Catholic congregation on their way to Easter Mass. (I also assume that a decent portion of the congregation took communion simply because they were starting to get the munchies.)

The Post’s decision to highlight the illegal marijuana smoke-out (getting blazed in public is still frowned upon by authorities... yeah, even the ones in Denver) underscores New-New-York’s divorce from propriety. And, no: I’m not about to rail against pot legalization… But, I’m not really going to defend it either…

Colorado’s experiment in drug legalization isn’t really the prominent issue for most traditional conservatives. After all, it’s somewhat difficult to argue with libertarians on things like marijuana prohibition. (Not because they’re right… It’s actually just frustrating because they tend to be a little high.) The big question on the minds of most marijuana skeptics, is whether or not we are applying an adequate amount of scrutiny to “Mary Jane.” After all, cigarettes come with Surgeon General Warnings. Alcohol comes with some pretty serious restrictions on consumption. Even Sudafed requires scrutiny from an administering pharmacist.

Yesterday, while millions of Christians celebrated the Resurrection of the Lord, potheads descended on Colorado’s capitol building to light up a joint. It was 10 in the morning when I caught the whiff of Colorado’s new state plant wafting from Civic Center while I walked to the Cathedral (yeah… I go to the late Mass). If I showed up with a group of drinkers in Civic Center, on any Sunday morning, to drink beer and proclaim my right to indulge in alcoholic beverages – the only news story written would be about the group of drunkards who were arrested over the weekend in front of the Capitol building. And that story would be quickly followed up by an intervention, and my first sobriety chip.

Even Saint Patrick’s Day (the drunkard’s very own 4:20 style holiday) sees a different perspective on alcohol consumption than the Post’s celebration of downtown Denver potheads. Drinking a beer on a public street? Arrested. Being visibly intoxicated in a public place? Ticketed, arrested or escorted out. Coverage of Denver’s St. Patrick’s Day festivities are generally told through the creative narration of police reports – not front page puffery.

I mean, most of us would agree: People who feel like getting wasted on 40’s and handles of tequila at 10am on a Sunday morning are usually encouraged to go to meetings. Most doctors tend to hand out pamphlets on the dangers of alcohol if you admit to having more than three alcoholic beverages each day. But potheads are invited to appear on the front page of Denver’s only hometown paper… And the rest of us are supposed to shrug our shoulders and roll our eyes as hipster yuppies “blaze one” in downtown Denver on Easter Sunday.

So, maybe we should reevaluate how we look at Colorado’s new tourist drug before getting too excited about legalization. And, maybe, a rearrangement of the Post’s priorities should be in order as well.

Happy Easter 4:20, Colorado!


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 420; anythinggoes; culturewar; dopeandstate; doublestandard; easter; hitlersbirthday; potheads; pravdamedia; waronalcohol; waroneaster; waronholidays; warontobacco
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1 posted on 04/21/2014 6:23:08 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Hey, now that we’ve used the publc schools to make the next generation ignorant, let’s get them stoned as well.


2 posted on 04/21/2014 6:24:39 AM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: Kaslin

.....Oh PLEASE!


3 posted on 04/21/2014 6:27:02 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Kaslin

In just one generation, they have created a country in which decent people would not care to live. And they celebrate the accomplishment non-stop.


4 posted on 04/21/2014 6:28:00 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: Kaslin

We had a big discussion about this on Easter Day around the table because one of my relatives is planning to move from Rocky Mountain High to Missouri next weekend. The relatives that are planning to help her are a little concerned that she won’t leave her weed in Colorado and that someone will get arrested around Goodland, KS where apparently the police and sheriff have stops for cars coming in from Colorado.

That being said, if a large swath of the population wants to anesthetize themselves with wacky weed, I say let them. They are chill, sleepy, eat a lot and generally don’t cause much trouble.

I don’t want to fry my brain with it, but I am not opposed if others do.


5 posted on 04/21/2014 6:30:50 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Kaslin

I predict Colorado’s little experiment will have consequences they didn’t expect. I imagine we’ll more fully understand where the phrase,”going to pot”, came from after seeing a few years of the effects of legalization.


6 posted on 04/21/2014 6:33:32 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Kaslin

I will NEVER step foot in that state. Not even a connecting flight.


7 posted on 04/21/2014 6:36:24 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Kaslin

These stoners make perfect tools of the state.


8 posted on 04/21/2014 6:37:36 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Kaslin
"People who feel like getting wasted on 40’s and handles of tequila at 10am on a Sunday morning are usually encouraged to go to meetings."

Good point.

9 posted on 04/21/2014 6:43:40 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Kaslin

To all concerned, I would keep up on the race for Governor in CO. and especially the number one Republican Candidate, Mike Kopp.

http://www.coloradoforkopp.com/


10 posted on 04/21/2014 6:48:26 AM PDT by wita
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To: yldstrk

“They are chill, sleepy, eat a lot and generally don’t cause much trouble.”

Gang-bangers smoke a lot of weed. It doesn’t just make you mellow, it also can make you psychotic.

Weed was made illegal for a reason. It got to the point where all people wanted to do was “sit around the house, get high and watch the tube” so to speak.
The fact these people blazed up in public speaks to the apparent problems, as the writer points out. The whole weed legalization argument was based on “What people do in their own homes is none of the government’s business”. Well, this wasn’t anyone’s home.


11 posted on 04/21/2014 6:56:18 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Kaslin

As with the author of this commentary, I lived a few blocks away from the Cathedral and the Capital Building when I lived in Denver in the early 1980s. The neighborhood is called Capitol Hill and a lot of young people lived there when I was there and it was not unusual to smell pot smoke while walking around.


12 posted on 04/21/2014 6:58:40 AM PDT by rochester_veteran (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Kaslin

What a spectacle. Pot smoking being promoted by the government. Are the democrats really that desperate for the votes?


13 posted on 04/21/2014 7:09:41 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Kaslin
“People who feel like getting wasted on 40’s and handles of tequila at 10am on a Sunday morning are usually encouraged to go to meetings.”

By that logic almost everyone celebrating St Patrick's day in countless towns are alcoholics. I remember starting drinking at 7-8am in Scranton, PA before the parade. People are always stumbling and vomiting by 10am.

Drunks have their drinking holidays. 4/20 is the smoker's holiday.

14 posted on 04/21/2014 7:10:29 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: rochester_veteran
The usage rate did not change with legalization. Coloradans voted to legalize pot because the cure (WOD) was far worse than the disease. Witness the Gestapo in Idaho and a 70 year old man. Bad side effects to that drug cure.

Drug warriors and anti gunners are exactly the same - they both shed fact and logic like ducks shed water.

15 posted on 04/21/2014 7:17:26 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: jsanders2001
I predict Colorado’s little experiment will have consequences they didn’t expect.

Or more accurately, did not think through. I am more interested in the economic debate put forward by libertarians which I lean to. One of the predictions of my economic model of legal pot would be that illegal pot would increase in Colorado because the state following tobacco laws, would make pot so expensive people would revert to illegal pot. This was not a difficult economic predictor given that when the state increases taxes on tobacco we see increase in bootlegging cigarettes from other states, Canada and just unstamped packs.

From articles I have read, my prediction has come true that illegal pot and organized crime has increased in Colorado. Obviously, high prices in the legal market have created demand for a lower cost alternative.

But it maybe worse than I predicted. I read that tax revenue is double than anticipated. This would indicate a "win" for the pro-legal crowd that hoped by legalizing pot that at least the state would get taxes. However, this could also mean a win for social conservatives who predicted that legalizing the drug would create more demand. (some of the taxes can be attributed to pot tourism). More demand means greater potential for the black market.

16 posted on 04/21/2014 7:19:29 AM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

Exactly. And FR is filled with drug warriors who simply don’t have a clue about the consequences of the WOD


17 posted on 04/21/2014 7:21:01 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: AppyPappy

“Weed was made illegal for a reason.”

Yes, to easily arrest people who were against the corrupt government. Also to keep alcohol/tobacco taxes coming in.

Every negative you can say about pot can be found even worse in alcohol, tobacco and Rx pills. Unless government bans ALL the far more dangerous/addictive/toxic substances too, pot prohibition is just another obvious case of government corruption for money and control.

It’s not for our health, it’s not for road safety, it’s not for productivity, it’s not for the children. It’s just another case of robbery and citizen abuse. Period, end of story.


18 posted on 04/21/2014 7:24:46 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: Kaslin

Today is national surprise drug test day. :=)>


19 posted on 04/21/2014 7:29:15 AM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: varyouga

“Every negative you can say about pot can be found even worse “

Perhaps not. Colorado will be the canary in the coal mine. Do stoners just go on the government dole and smoke dope all day? Remember, there is still weed being sold on the street which I think is still illegal. What to do?


20 posted on 04/21/2014 7:31:32 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: 11th Commandment

I know I’m going to catch flack for this but I bet the overall condition of the state will deteriorate as well. Back in the day, I used to have friends that smoed marijuana every day. I could take you to their apartments and my other non-smokers apartments and without saying a word could ask you which was which and there would be no question who was who. Pot makes you letharthic and lazy. I think you are going to see evidence of that manifest itself on a wide scale over time in the state.


21 posted on 04/21/2014 7:31:55 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: MadIsh32

I suspect many of them are invested in the WOD. The WOD goes away, so does their job.


22 posted on 04/21/2014 7:35:18 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: varyouga

> Every negative you can say about pot can be found even worse in alcohol, tobacco and Rx pills. Unless government bans ALL the far more dangerous/addictive/toxic substances too, pot prohibition is just another obvious case of government corruption for money and control.

No one will disagree with you on this I think. Its the politics, public opinion and the $$$ that determines what is made legal or not anymore. I think alcohol can be very debilitating to your senses. There’s no doubt why ut us legal; HUGE tax revenue and a fines to be made for the court system.


23 posted on 04/21/2014 7:37:38 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Kaslin

If you are a decent person living in CO, it is time to get out….particularly if you have children. They will not survive as whole human beings in such a dangerous place.


24 posted on 04/21/2014 7:42:32 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: jsanders2001

NOTE TO SELF: When in Colorado selling AR and AK 30 round magazines out of the trunk of your car, NEVER EAT the local food. Eat canned food bought in from another state.


25 posted on 04/21/2014 7:43:45 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals
The usage rate did not change with legalization. Coloradans voted to legalize pot because the cure (WOD) was far worse than the disease. Witness the Gestapo in Idaho and a 70 year old man. Bad side effects to that drug cure.

Drug warriors and anti gunners are exactly the same - they both shed fact and logic like ducks shed water.

Just as Prohibition was a failure, so is the WOD, a huge violator of our Constitutional rights. Yes, I heard about the older guy getting pulled over in Idaho and searched. This took hours and the LEO didn't find anything.

26 posted on 04/21/2014 7:55:49 AM PDT by rochester_veteran (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

NOTE TO SELF: When in Colorado selling AR and AK 30 round magazines out of the trunk of your car, NEVER EAT the local food. Eat canned food bought in from another state.

“Dude don’t you know THOSE are assault rifles. Like you need to turn those into the police. They are here to protect us so you don’t need those. Hold on I need to take another toke”...”fired one?”...”well hell yeah in Call of Duty”...


27 posted on 04/21/2014 7:57:39 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: AppyPappy
“Perhaps not. Colorado will be the canary in the coal mine. Do stoners just go on the government dole and smoke dope all day? Remember, there is still weed being sold on the street which I think is still illegal. What to do?”

If you want to see real dopers, go to a small pharmacy just before opening time on Monday (like the one on my block). You'll see them, ghost white, shaking lining up and yanking at the door every minute. They sit on welfare/disability and eat mind-numbing pills all day (also paid by the taxpayer). Most pharmacies deliver nowadays so you don't see as much as before. The lines used to go around the block with neighbors complaining about junkies.

You can see the same thing at a liquor store at opening time. The only difference is the liquor isn't free.

Alcohol/pills are toxic and physically addictive so most of these people will be forever useless. I would prefer them to use pot since most people can quit pot in one day without any withdrawal or damage. Pot can also be grown cheaper than basil or for free as a potted house plant. Right now hundreds of billions in taxpayer funds go to big pharma to feed the Rx addictions.

28 posted on 04/21/2014 8:05:41 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: rochester_veteran

My first apartment was right there on Capitol Hill. The former governor’s mansion had been converted. Mine was a teenie studio with hardwood floors, super high ceiling, and a walk-in closet - all for a whopping $50 a month! No pot smells, but that was 40 years ago.
Civic center at Christmas was somethin’ else. I was a retail artist for the May D&F advertising dept. downtown. Denver held good memories then.


29 posted on 04/21/2014 8:07:27 AM PDT by b9 (II Timothy 1:7)
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To: txrefugee

“If you are a decent person living in CO, it is time to get out….particularly if you have children. They will not survive as whole human beings in such a dangerous place.”

Almost fell of my chair. Thanks for the morning laugh!


30 posted on 04/21/2014 8:07:53 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

Let’s see what happens in Colorado. I suspect you are wrong. My guess is that the stoners will find a way to get the Democrats to pay them to not work.


31 posted on 04/21/2014 8:13:50 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: b9

It was my first apartment in Denver as well, a studio that was in a building on the corner of Clarkson and 14th St. right across the street from St. John’s Cathedral. Rent was $120. My kitchen window looked out across a parking lot to Colfax and a place called “Kitty’s” that sold adult toys. Hookers would often hang out at the nearby corner. It was kind of a rough neighborhood. I was an armed security guard at a nearby hospital at the time. I eventually got another apartment on St. Paul St., a nicer place. E. Colfax was kind of rough back then, but I was a young guy, recently out of the service. I looked upon it as an adventure back then! :-) Did you ever go to the Satire Lounge for their Mexican food and blue margaritas?


32 posted on 04/21/2014 8:23:32 AM PDT by rochester_veteran (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: AppyPappy

It is going on with booze and pills in every state so we have been there for a while. It would be better in every way if these people used pot instead of alcohol or Rx narcotics (but that’s bad for big pharma, big alcohol and big fed).

And many people just don’t feel like working. Even if they don’t do any dope.


33 posted on 04/21/2014 8:24:09 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga
And many people just don’t feel like working.

Ending welfare and unemployment benefits will fix that right quick.

34 posted on 04/21/2014 8:26:17 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Kaslin

Potheads = Speed bumps


35 posted on 04/21/2014 9:00:42 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Kaslin

About 4 million people in Colorado didn’t smoke pot yesterday and a few million went to Christian Easter church services, so where is the reporting that Colorado is a Christian State?

Seems Chicken Little wrote this headline.


36 posted on 04/21/2014 9:06:53 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: rochester_veteran

No, I was pretty boring! Dated a few nice airmen from Lowry, tho. Moved shortly thereafter to LA, married a former airman, ironically - still married, raised 2 great kids.

Didn’t live on Capitol Hill long enough to even know what was really going on much, thank goodness. Grew up in southeast Denver, good time to live there.
Someone said Denver’s the biggest small town in America.


37 posted on 04/21/2014 9:11:26 AM PDT by b9 (II Timothy 1:7)
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To: CodeToad

Easter Sunrise Service at Red Rocks - happy memory!


38 posted on 04/21/2014 9:13:16 AM PDT by b9 (II Timothy 1:7)
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To: b9

Exactly. Red Rocks Easter services are second to none and are packed...but no headlines about that many people gathered and not smoking pot.


39 posted on 04/21/2014 9:21:03 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: b9

“Dated a few nice airmen from Lowry, tho”

Funny, I dated a few girls while at Lowry!


40 posted on 04/21/2014 9:22:08 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: CodeToad

“;^)


41 posted on 04/21/2014 9:28:17 AM PDT by b9 (II Timothy 1:7)
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To: madprof98

A CNN article on the hash bash pointed out that it was not just young people but senior citizens too.

45 years ago today’s senior citizens were dope smoking hippies. DUH.


42 posted on 04/21/2014 9:38:04 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: varyouga

The whole point of the article is that you cannot sit around and drink in public, or even be drunk in public...but on the other hand, it’s just fine for the dopers to take over a public space and shut down the whole area while they get stoned in public. Not to mention the second hand smoke, the intoxicated minors and the general nuisance value of the whole thing, which would land you in jail if it were alcohol. Heck, in New York, they stop and frisk people before the St Pat’s parade to make sure they’re not bringing any kind or amount of alcohol

You should ask yourself why the government is so eager to promote pot.

In case you’re wondering, it’s because it makes people dumb and easy to control. The government’s dearest hope.


43 posted on 04/21/2014 9:48:22 AM PDT by livius
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“Heck, in New York, they stop and frisk people before the St Pat’s parade to make sure they’re not bringing any kind or amount of alcohol”

Only certain areas and only large bags. I assure you that 99% of parade goers here are not frisked. I've seen teenagers (under 18) openly drunk at every St Pat's parade I've been to and I used to be one of those teenagers.

People drink in public for many events all across the country. It's illegal in most places but enforcement becomes selective for special events.

It is illegal to smoke pot in public in CO but enforcement becomes selective and rare for events. Just like for drinking events.

If they ban both types of events I agree 100% but banning one is hypocritical and corrupt.

44 posted on 04/21/2014 10:17:56 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: Cboldt

The War on Drugs is a terrific form of welfare


45 posted on 04/21/2014 10:28:03 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: livius

“You should ask yourself why the government is so eager to promote pot.”

How do they promote pot? Even growing one pot plant or having more than a single zip-lock of dry plant is a federal felony. In legal states, it is taxed far more than 100%. If they wanted to promote it, they’d make it completely legal and tax free.

Under the Obama regime, which benefits from making people dumb, pot raids in legal states have increased!

The “easy to control” drugs you are thinking of are the legal psychoactive Rx drugs that turn people who are upset about our world into zombies (SSRIs, benzos and hynotics). There are TV commercials for these designer drugs 24/7 and they are prescribed to our CHILDREN like candy!

Pot prohibition is all about money for entrenched interests and being able to easily arrest those who disagree with the regime. That’s 100% of it.


46 posted on 04/21/2014 10:36:24 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: jsanders2001

I would agree with your observations of users vs. non users. I have also observed that even after quitting the behavior you observed continues. Long lasting personality changes after quitting includes aloof behavior and trouble in relationships. However, I did not comment on the social consequences only the economic consequences. Will the people who predicted the drug trade would decline with pot legalization recant this prediction? I have confident that true libertarian economist will reconsider their model. However, I have no confident that liberals who just wanted to smoke pot will recant on their claims that pot is less harmful that alcohol, thus why I do not engage with liberals.


47 posted on 04/21/2014 10:38:22 AM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: jsanders2001
I know I'm going to catch flack for this but I bet the overall condition of the state will deteriorate..

I too wonder what the new Colorado will be like. It might just stumble along quite well with trust fund babies and those who live off that social scene, with all of the taxes they pay for legal pot. What I wonder is how it's all going to come down when (not if) some kind of natural or man-made crisis happens, and much of the population doesn't cope all that well.

48 posted on 04/21/2014 10:41:28 AM PDT by grania
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To: AppyPappy

Not to mention that all who imbibe of MJ are also unable to buy or carry a firearm in Colorado.


49 posted on 04/21/2014 10:44:41 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Uninstall Fascist Firefox. Get Pale Moon.)
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To: rochester_veteran

Haaa!!
In the early ‘90s, I lived at 1234 Clarkson before I joined the military.


50 posted on 04/21/2014 10:49:50 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Uninstall Fascist Firefox. Get Pale Moon.)
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