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Scottish Independence Campaign is Gaining Ground, Polls Show
theguardian.com ^ | 20 April 2014

Posted on 04/21/2014 9:08:14 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

The campaign for Scottish independence appears to be gaining ground, according to new polls.

With five months to go before the referendum that could lead to Scotland leaving the UK, the gap between the yes and no camps has narrowed, suggesting a two-point swing could be enough to secure independence on 18 September.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: scotland

1 posted on 04/21/2014 9:08:14 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Nose to face: goodbye.


2 posted on 04/21/2014 9:09:13 AM PDT by DManA
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Yeah right, how “Independent” will they be once they vote to join the EU?


3 posted on 04/21/2014 9:10:01 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I’ve read that Scotland, on its own, will be the most liberal country in Europe. The depravity, faithlessness, and corruption of the place is beyond belief.


4 posted on 04/21/2014 9:15:32 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

With no standing military and tied tightly to the UK pound I don’t see the exit strategy being well planned.


5 posted on 04/21/2014 9:16:00 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: BarnacleCenturion

If Scotland votes like Quebec did then a lot of the Yes votes for independence will become No at the last minute. People will almost always stick with the devil they know.


6 posted on 04/21/2014 9:18:46 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

More liberal than Sweden?


7 posted on 04/21/2014 9:18:55 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

The SNP is an unapologetic socialist party. The videos I’ve been watching for the Yes side are promising free stuff to everyone for life.

And the ironic thing is that this is supposedly going to be paid for with oil money! Like how are they going to work that out with the greens, who are also the other major backers of this disaster.

People have to understand that this isn’t going to be the Republic of Braveheart. This is going to be Sweden on steroids.


8 posted on 04/21/2014 9:21:24 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Resolute Conservative
With no standing military and tied tightly to the UK pound I don’t see the exit strategy being well planned.

They could have no military and just rely on the remainder of the UK and the US to protect them. That's pretty much what the rest of Europe does.

They currently have a higher GDP per capita than France so it seems they could be OK on their own.

9 posted on 04/21/2014 9:23:10 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: vladimir998

“More liberal than Sweden?”

Sweden has very slowly been going rightwards in the past two decades. Baby steps... but they’re taking them.

Scotland? Good for them. And leaving will be good for England as well.


10 posted on 04/21/2014 9:23:27 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Resolute Conservative

So when Putin puts his move on Scotland will the US will be obligated to defend it?


11 posted on 04/21/2014 9:23:57 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

I am eternally thankful that my ancestors unassed that festering hole. Seriously messed up place.


12 posted on 04/21/2014 9:25:15 AM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

What about when Russia starts drilling off their coast?


13 posted on 04/21/2014 9:33:29 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: BarnacleCenturion
"All you have to do is pledge allegiance to Obama and the pain will end.."


14 posted on 04/21/2014 9:34:03 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
"All you have to do is pledge allegiance to Obama and the pain will end.."


15 posted on 04/21/2014 9:34:08 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Straight Vermonter

“They could have no military and just rely on the remainder of the UK and the US to protect them. That’s pretty much what the rest of Europe does.”

Can’t say I would sleep well at night if those were my choices.


16 posted on 04/21/2014 9:34:32 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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Scotland leaving the UK will leave the British Parliament with fewer left-wing members.

And THAT is why the left-wing parties in Britain are opposing it.

A right-ward swing in Westminster would imho be a rather good thing...


17 posted on 04/21/2014 9:37:02 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Resolute Conservative

LOL. Since leftist Scotland will probably take a page from O And ban drilling on the coast somebody will have to do it. Might as well be Puty Put.


18 posted on 04/21/2014 9:38:33 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Straight Vermonter
They currently have a higher GDP per capita than France so it seems they could be OK on their own.

GDP includes spending by welfare recipients and a lot of that money comes from the English. I'd suspect actual production figures wouldn't compare well.

19 posted on 04/21/2014 9:45:51 AM PDT by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Scotland will not be part of NATO, they will be on their own. However GB would never allow a Russian presence in Scotland.


20 posted on 04/21/2014 9:55:37 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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I disagree. The lesson every little wannabe socialist democracy should learn is that now that the US is a socialist democracy we cannot afford to be the worlds enforcer for gay rights, deep green fantasies, women causes, etc.

This is what Putin is about. He will pluck little countries off on by one. Who will the leftist get to do their fighting?

I don’t believe O would defend Canada. He may defend Alaska but only if Putin threatens to drill for oil or banish gays.


21 posted on 04/21/2014 10:23:00 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Scotland as a country will be the biggest ally of tyrants and terrorist throughout the world. They will be highly regarded in the UN by the coalition of anti-Israel voting blocks.


22 posted on 04/21/2014 11:32:43 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
a two-point swing could be enough to secure independence on 18 September

Has the Westminster Parliament agreed to dissolve the UK on the basis of a 50.1% "yes" vote?

23 posted on 04/21/2014 11:36:10 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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Has the Westminster Parliament agreed to dissolve the UK on the basis of a 50.1% "yes" vote?

It would not mean the 'dissolution of the UK', since without Scotland there would still be a United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland. That aside, the answer to your question is essentially 'yes': a simple majority would trigger the independence process. However, everything about that process, including the timetable, would be up for negotiation between the Scottish and UK governments, and the necessary legislation could not be put before the UK Parliament until those negotiations reach agreement. The 'Yes' campaign insists the negotiation would be short and straightforward. That seems optimistic, to put it mildly, given the complexity of the issues.

24 posted on 04/21/2014 1:27:24 PM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Didn’t seem depraved the two times I’ve been there including two years ago. In fact, Scotland is a great place to visit. Scots are mighty nice people as well. They might find out out that socialism is not a good thing, but it’s a fact they can make it on their own.


25 posted on 04/21/2014 3:16:47 PM PDT by driftless2
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