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Carrying guns on the beach may be legal, but it's not civil: Guest opinion
oregonlive.com ^ | 4/19/2014 | Matt Love

Posted on 04/21/2014 9:22:20 AM PDT by rktman

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To: rktman
"And in doing so, the younger man, in the opinion of the older man, has crossed a line of civility and decency, particularly when it comes to the tradition of people visiting their beaches and never expecting to look down the sand and see a man carrying a rifle and coming their way. "

So I presume the "older man" gets equally upset whenever he sees a police officer, game warden, duck hunter or soldier with a firearm. Somehow I doubt it, so the issue for the "older man" isn't really the firearm, its that he doesn't trust his fellow citizens, just the almighty State.

Somehow I don't expect Matt Love to write a similar article deploring police patrols in the area. Unless the police cite him for public nudity.

61 posted on 04/21/2014 11:04:03 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

I am in NC right on the border of SC. I skip over the line to buy gas because of the 33¢ difference in state tax per gallon.

Anyhow, NC is open carry and SC is not. Well, while I was carrying a holstered .40cal, my shirt had come up and over the gun. I walked into the store and a SC sherrifs deputy confronted me. He asked if I had a CCW, to which I showed him my NC issued CCW.

He was polite and said SC is not an open carry state and said to make sure I keep it concealed when I come into SC.

I was open carrying in SC, therefore I was breaking the law. But I was polite to this cop and he was polite in return. I said I would keep that in mind and thanks and all that.

If he had been a gungho billybadass cop, he could have drawn on me and arrested me.


62 posted on 04/21/2014 11:10:33 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: andyk

George doesn’t like it. George is getting angry!


63 posted on 04/21/2014 11:12:44 AM PDT by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
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To: Red Badger

Don’t most criminals restrict their activities to certain places and times for our convenience?


64 posted on 04/21/2014 11:12:53 AM PDT by Swen Manuela1
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To: DoodleDawg

I doubt there will be a problem with him. If he walks the same stretch of beach regularly, I’m sure the locals know all about him and leave him alone. He’s made his point, and has probably already had a few “polite discussions.” He sounds pretty level-headed. Even the obviously biased author of this article couldn’t find a reason to dislike him.


65 posted on 04/21/2014 11:26:25 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: shoff

+1.

Fixed it:

“Being naked on the beach may be legal, but it’s not civil: Guest opinion”


66 posted on 04/21/2014 11:29:09 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: rktman

Do they allow carry in nudist camps?


67 posted on 04/21/2014 11:47:45 AM PDT by I want the USA back
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To: I want the USA back

Do they allow concealed carry in nudist camps? (Don’t think too hard about that.)


68 posted on 04/21/2014 12:49:10 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: rktman
A civil right is an enforceable right or privilege, which if interfered with by another gives rise to an action for injury.

How could it not be civil?

After all, the right to keep and bear arms is a civil right.

69 posted on 04/21/2014 1:25:41 PM PDT by seowulf (Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum. Cogito.---Ambrose Bierce)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Personally, I think it’s a bit wreckless to OC. You put a big bulls-eye on yourself when you do and attract way too much unwanted attention.

My son, a policeman, is required by his employer to carry, at all times, while in public. Open or concealed, it's his choice but if he open carries , his badge must be showing. He chooses to carry concealed because as he says, showing a badge and a gun just makes him a target for the crazies of the world.

70 posted on 04/21/2014 2:17:38 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? 1 Cor. 13:36)
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To: IrishBrigade
could you please rephrase that...

No, because then, we might understand it.

71 posted on 04/21/2014 2:20:29 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? 1 Cor. 13:36)
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To: rktman

“No magazine in the well. Other than that.....yawn!”

I’ve seen pictures like this before where the loaded mag is bungeed to the weapon. Ready enough, but not too ready.


72 posted on 04/21/2014 2:55:59 PM PDT by PLMerite
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To: rktman

So crime never happens on the beach? Who knew?


73 posted on 04/21/2014 3:05:16 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: PLMerite

Roger that. Usually pretty handy but not handy enough.


74 posted on 04/21/2014 5:53:43 PM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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To: Organic Panic
"Naked 50 year old man frolicking on the beach is cute and whimsical and embracing his inner child."

KEEP THIS MAN AWAY FROM YOUR CHILDREN!

75 posted on 04/21/2014 6:16:50 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Its my freedom. YES. I will be keeping it.)
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To: Graybeard58

I think your son is making a very wise choice by doing that.

Had a friend who would always open carry—because “he could”. He would always get looks and occasionally folks would come up to him and ask him if he was a cop?

His response: “No...are you a criminal?”

IMHO not a good idea to open carry.


76 posted on 04/22/2014 4:32:59 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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IMHO not a good idea to open carry.

You may have misread my reply. I said that he chooses to carry concealed.

77 posted on 04/22/2014 4:59:10 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? 1 Cor. 13:36)
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To: Graybeard58

No sir, I said he was making a wise choice by doing exactly that IMO. I just re-iterated the fact about open carrying and my dumb friend.


78 posted on 04/22/2014 5:20:44 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

It was I, who misread.


79 posted on 04/22/2014 6:00:07 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (There is no peace, saith the Lord, unto the wicked.Isaiah 48: 22)
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