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Dem Congressman on Obamacare: The Worst Is Yet to Come, Itís ĎGoing to Hit the Faní
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Posted on 04/21/2014 4:18:23 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

April 21, 2014 2:45 PM Dem Congressman on Obamacare: The Worst Is Yet to Come, It's 'Going to Hit the Fan' By Andrew Johnson

Massachusetts representative Stephen Lynch isn’t just worried about the negative impact Obamacare will have on his party’s performance this fall — he also thinks its worst effects on our health-care system are still to come. Lynch, who voted against the Affordable Care Act in 2010, warned that the situation is “going to hit the fan” when the law’s delayed provisions go into effect down the road.

“There are parts of Obamacare, or the Affordable Care Act, that were postponed because they are unpalatable,” he told the Boston Herald. The “Cadillac tax” that goes into effect in a few years and taxes employer health plans over a certain value, he said, will be “the first time in this country’s history that we have actually taxed health care.”

Repeal is now impossible, he says, because of the number of Americans who’ve signed up for the law’s exchanges. Democrats will take big political hits on the law this fall anyway, Lynch said.

“We will lose seats in the House,” he said. “I am fairly certain of that based on the poll numbers that are coming out from the more experienced pollsters down there, and I think we may lose the Senate.”

Via Mediaite.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 2014election; 2016election; abortion; deathpanels; democratcare; election2014; election2016; massachusetts; obamacare; rinocare; stephenlynch; zerocare
You have to pass the bill to find out what's in it.....

Fools.

1 posted on 04/21/2014 4:18:23 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Just one question:
If the Dems lose the Senate, and they lose seats in the house, and the Republicans pick up those seats and take over the Senate, HOW IN THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO TELL!


2 posted on 04/21/2014 4:21:10 PM PDT by mark3681
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To: Sub-Driver
The collapse is gonna be epic.

I hope it buries BOTH political parties.

3 posted on 04/21/2014 4:21:35 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: mark3681

> Repeal is now impossible, he says, because of the number of Americans who’ve signed up for the law’s exchanges. Democrats will take big political hits on the law this fall anyway, Lynch said.

Now we understand why there was such a push to enroll 8 M


4 posted on 04/21/2014 4:23:28 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Sub-Driver
The elections are rigged anyhow.

I will never trust electronic voting machines.

5 posted on 04/21/2014 4:24:51 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where's your brothers ElCamino ?)
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To: Sub-Driver

That’s one democrat congressman you won’t find talking about obamacare on CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, etc.


6 posted on 04/21/2014 4:25:42 PM PDT by boycott
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To: Sub-Driver

When Medicare was passed back in the 60’s, it was said that it would NEVER Cost over $40 Billion a Year, EVER.

Could have been $20 Billion, but I’m old and my memory is lacking.


7 posted on 04/21/2014 4:25:46 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: jsanders2001
"Repeal is now impossible"

Don't buy this crap for a minute. ANYTHING can be repealed. Remember alcohol prohibition? Slavery? Marijuana ban? Homosexuality ban?

8 posted on 04/21/2014 4:28:22 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Sub-Driver

“Repeal is now impossible, he says”

Uttter BS!


9 posted on 04/21/2014 4:29:26 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: jsanders2001

It is repeal-able. The states that hurried to sign people up for Medicaid can pay the freight.

Too bad, so sad. Why should everyone else pay for a few million idiots?


10 posted on 04/21/2014 4:29:43 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Texas Fossil
Bingo. The Rats are always on the cutting edge of propaganda.
11 posted on 04/21/2014 4:32:53 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Sub-Driver

Wow. I had to sit down. Honesty from a dem.


12 posted on 04/21/2014 4:33:01 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Sub-Driver

When Ocare ripens a bit, we will have daily stories right here like we hear from the UK with patients dropping dead in waiting rooms, the elderly being found months after their deaths with the TV on etc etc. Just give it a little time to reverberate through the country.


13 posted on 04/21/2014 4:35:22 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Plessy vs Fergusen.


14 posted on 04/21/2014 4:37:15 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: mark3681

Good Question!There’s Not”Tuppence,Haypenny’s”Difference Between Them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


15 posted on 04/21/2014 4:37:27 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: Sub-Driver

I’d like to see the House pass a bill that there would never be funding for a single payer system. A little preemption.


16 posted on 04/21/2014 4:41:05 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Repeal is now impossible, he says, because of the number of Americans who’ve signed up for the law’s exchanges.

I suspect Mr. Cruz would vigorously argue that point. Me too.

17 posted on 04/21/2014 4:41:36 PM PDT by upchuck (Support ABLE, the Anybody But Lindsey Effort. Yes, we are the ABLE!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

I know one thing that’s possible.

Removing your sorry MARXIST ass from office. Rue the day, commie!


18 posted on 04/21/2014 4:44:33 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: mark3681
If the Dems lose the Senate, and they lose seats in the house, and the Republicans pick up those seats and take over the Senate, HOW IN THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO TELL!

Easy. The preponderance of news stories about how the Senate is responsible for the crapstorm sweeping the nation.

19 posted on 04/21/2014 4:44:52 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: jsanders2001

-— Repeal is now impossible, he says, because of the number of Americans who’ve signed up for the law’s exchanges -—

Its a tax, and taxes can be repealed. The question is, will Ted Cruz be president. If not, fuggedabowdit.


20 posted on 04/21/2014 4:48:48 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Sub-Driver

Obamacare was passed with a huge dem senate majority. Just taking the senate back won’t be enough to repeal Ocare.


21 posted on 04/21/2014 4:49:33 PM PDT by umgud
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To: Sub-Driver

bfl


22 posted on 04/21/2014 4:51:38 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: jsanders2001

Repeal is not impossible. When their plan comes up for renewal, they will have to choose another just like before.


23 posted on 04/21/2014 4:55:19 PM PDT by zeebee (There are no coincidences.)
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To: SpaceBar

Yep. The back-breaking costs will turn out to be the least of our problems. There may still be health-care insurance, but there won’t be any healthcare. sigh


24 posted on 04/21/2014 5:06:50 PM PDT by Thom Pain (If you like your country you can keep it. Period.)
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To: umgud

It was a straight party line vote, 60-39, so the Dems `own’ it—like they own the economy, unemployment, the huge debt, a lousy foreign policy, the trade deficit, a dozen dirty scandals and a general miserable attitude across the nation due to failure of leadership.
The `rats are going to get their heads handed to them this fall. Good.
The GOP ... gee, it will be like trying to decide who to root for in a slap-fight between Bill Maher and Bill “Ted” O’Really. Both parties have managed to wrap things so badly around the axle, with the Republicans fighting like kittens to right the ship of state. they can both go to hell.
Anyway here’s the vote, (Christmas eve, the sneaking bastards):

Grouped By Vote Position
YEAs -—60
Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Begich (D-AK)
Bennet (D-CO)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Burris (D-IL)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Conrad (D-ND)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Hagan (D-NC)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kaufman (D-DE)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kirk (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Specter (D-PA)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Udall (D-CO)
Udall (D-NM)
Warner (D-VA)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs -—39
Alexander (R-TN)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Kyl (R-AZ)
LeMieux (R-FL)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Snowe (R-ME)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Wicker (R-MS)

Not Voting - 1
Bunning (R-KY)


25 posted on 04/21/2014 5:10:27 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: All

Obamacare is a blunder of Ceausescuian proportions.


26 posted on 04/21/2014 5:12:56 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Sub-Driver

Repeal all mandates, eliminate the death panel; that should effectively kill it. Even rinos could go for that. Hardly anyone on the 0-exchange will want to keep their new crappy plan, even the ones with big subsidies, because the networks are too narrow, doctors aren’t taking it, and the deductibles are too high.


27 posted on 04/21/2014 5:13:24 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
"Repeal is now impossible"

Don't buy this crap for a minute. ANYTHING can be repealed. Remember alcohol prohibition? Slavery? Marijuana ban? Homosexuality ban?

What you said.

"Repeal every single word." -- Ted Cruz

28 posted on 04/21/2014 5:18:27 PM PDT by T Ruth (Islam shall be defeated.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The Obama is going to hit the fan in November!


29 posted on 04/21/2014 5:28:08 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Sub-Driver
There is already a tax on my insurance policy. Got the letter from my insurer in January... "due to the ACA you will now pay 2.5% tax on your policy." $150 per year in new taxes, this year.

I am self employed so I had my own major medical policy, I was one of the ones that could keep my policy, just don't know for how long as it does not comply with the ACA mandated "essential services".

30 posted on 04/21/2014 5:34:46 PM PDT by thirst4truth (Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point.)
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To: jsanders2001

It would be cheaper to repeal the entire thing and pay out subsidies. Remember, a huge piece of that 8M number is in the parasite states (CA,NY,IL,NJ) we don’t need their congressmen or senators to vote this down.


31 posted on 04/21/2014 5:42:54 PM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: Sub-Driver

He called it “obamacare” then he heard Pelosi’s voice from that little speaker implanted in his ear scream “AFFORDABLE CARE ACT!”


32 posted on 04/21/2014 5:48:50 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Newbomb Turk

For decades I’ve doubted that my vote counts.


33 posted on 04/21/2014 5:49:50 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Don't buy this crap for a minute. ANYTHING can be repealed. Remember alcohol prohibition? Slavery? Marijuana ban? Homosexuality ban?

It isn't that simple. Parts of it could be repealed, yes. But you can't even exactly define the totality of it. No one person has a handle on the whole thing. Parts of Obamacare are still being implemented with new regulations sprouting on the fly. Thousands of pages, beyond the thousands of pages in the original legislation. Pretty much everything varies state to state. State insurance commissioners have interpreted lots of grey areas uniquely (not just Medicaid). Even Medicare Advantage is impacted. It isn't like saying "Ok, you can start selling and drinking alcohol again".

34 posted on 04/21/2014 6:05:34 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: steve86
I didn't say it would be simple.
35 posted on 04/21/2014 6:14:31 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Sub-Driver

Repeal is not impossible.


36 posted on 04/21/2014 6:26:56 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The really bad crap from the Big Kahuna’s ObamaCare scam isn’t going to hit until the boy is cooling his heals in front of his mansion on some beach in Hawaii.


37 posted on 04/21/2014 7:03:42 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
The original selling point for Medicare was that it would cost eight billion dollars and never increase disproportionately.
38 posted on 04/21/2014 7:09:42 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

Thank you for the information.

We should buy every Legislator a Crystal Ball or better yet a Magic 8 Ball.


39 posted on 04/21/2014 9:42:25 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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