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For Many Americans, 'Temp' Work Becomes Permanent Way of Life
NBC News ^ | April 20, 2014 | Martha C. White

Posted on 04/21/2014 7:23:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

For Americans who can’t find jobs, the booming demand for temp workers has been a path out of unemployment, but now many fear it’s a dead-end route.

With full-time work hard to find, these workers have built temping into a de facto career, minus vacation, sick days or insurance. The assignments might be temporary — a few months here, a year there — but labor economists warn that companies’ growing hunger for a workforce they can switch on and off could do permanent damage to these workers’ career trajectories and retirement plans.

“It seems to be the new norm in the working world,” said Kelly Sibla, 54. The computer systems engineer has been looking for a full-time job for four years now, but the Amherst, Ohio, resident said she has to take whatever she can find.

“I know a lot of people who are doing this temping. It seems to be the way this is going,” she said.

Sibla’s husband, 67, got a buyout offer from his former employer and is now retired, but she has minimal retirement savings in her own name. “When you’re working as a temp you don’t get any of that. Nothing,” she said. The couple is downsizing to a smaller home and trying to sell the one they live in now to reduce expenses....

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: economy; employment; temporarystaffing; unemployment

1 posted on 04/21/2014 7:23:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

it’s work


2 posted on 04/21/2014 7:27:12 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

For centuries, all work was “temporary”. The concept of “career” is relatively new.


3 posted on 04/21/2014 7:29:02 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The temp phenomenon is driven in part by excess labor and insufficient demand.

To add stability to jobs, you first have to add stability to American industry. That means raising the import tariffs, so that we stop the off-shoring of American industries.

Then we need to reach full employment, and companies will start seeking to lock in talent instead of using temporary pools.


4 posted on 04/21/2014 7:33:45 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It appears that permanence has become passe in many facets of this “new economy.” So sad.


5 posted on 04/21/2014 7:41:23 PM PDT by upchuck (Support ABLE, the Anybody But Lindsey Effort. Yes, we are the ABLE!!)
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To: dfwgator

BUMP!

In the Hoover-Roosevelt Great Depression of the 1930’s, men looked for WORK.

Now in the Bush-Obama Great Recession, men look for a JOB.

Due to the Rule of Obamanation, WORK is not a PC goal, only a “decent-paying” JOB is PC.

As WORK is slowly regulated out o by the Rule of Obamanation a man’s JOB becomes finding a JOB.

BTW, The Rule of Obamanation is as follows:
“ Fundamentally transform the United States of America” into the Utopia where there is no incentive to work, anymore.


6 posted on 04/21/2014 7:52:30 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ordinarily I wouldn’t have pushed this. But if you live in LA and can get on the good side of the people at Central Casting, you’ll get a SAG card. Turn on the charm (hopefully short of the casting couch) and you’ll be working a lot.

But you’ve got to be personable and charming without seeming a schmoozer. A neat trick if one can pull it off, with a just little of, “The stuff that dreams are made of.”

“Break a leg.”


7 posted on 04/21/2014 7:53:43 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: dfwgator

I don’t have paid vacation or benefits other than I like the people I work with and I only work when I want.


8 posted on 04/21/2014 7:54:02 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: onedoug
Turn on the charm (hopefully short of the casting couch) and you’ll be working a lot.

Good luck with all that these days in Hollywood.

9 posted on 04/21/2014 7:56:26 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

At least all these people aren’t tied down to a permanent job.

Now they can paint, or sing, or do whatever the hell the WH considers ‘freeing’.


10 posted on 04/21/2014 7:59:49 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can’t be, people right here say Americans are lazy, who refuse good paying full time jobs with benefits and pensions....Like those in government get.

Government is the biggest employer in the U.S. because they produce so much!

I bet those in government get all that because they’ve spent decades working hard choking the life out of country while pulling tax payers up on ropes like a pinatas, beating coins out of them. That’s honorable hard work.


11 posted on 04/21/2014 8:06:53 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: DannyTN
Tarrifs are not the answer. They will just make everything more expensive. In essence just another tax. The answer is elimination of the income tax. Prosecute unions for restraint of trade. And eliminate the EPA and OSHA. Then we will once again be competitive.
12 posted on 04/21/2014 8:12:36 PM PDT by CyberSpartacus
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To: yldstrk

Was out of work for 6 months. Took a job at a hotel as a guest services rep. (Front desk). It is fun. Was offered full time at a law firm as a legal assistant for more money. Took that job but still working part time at hotel.

Those 6 months without a job was scary. Never had a problem before finding work. Very grateful.


13 posted on 04/21/2014 8:14:17 PM PDT by waxer1 (A Republic if you can keep it--Benjamin Franklin. Well we lost it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

‘Temp work’ is about as ‘cut-throat’ as it gets. If you ever get anything worse than a cold and unable to work for more than a day or two, you’re gone.(they would rather you show up and infect other employees) Death in the family? Too bad. If you’re hired on as a ‘temp’ or contractor at an employer with a labor union, the union thugs will HATE you, and you had better drive a car to work you don’t mind being vandalized.

Having said that, it can be better than nothing, and at many places these days, you’re hired as a ‘temp’ so they can try you out, as it’s an opportunity to get your ‘foot in the door’. If you’re skilled and fit in, much of the time, they’ll hire you on with the company.

During these crazy days of repressive laws/regulation and the constant threat of being litigated into oblivion, many employers gain a layer of protection via ‘temp’ job agencies or hiring on contractors.


14 posted on 04/21/2014 8:14:27 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: onedoug
Don't you need to have had a speaking role to get a SAG card? Extras don't count because they don't talk.
15 posted on 04/21/2014 8:16:39 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: CyberSpartacus

Raise the tariffs and lower the income tax by an equal amount.

There is a hidden cost to the cheap imports. The cost of 100 million Americans on food stamps, obamacare supplements, and other support programs.

We tariff foreign producers less than we tax American producers. We need to restore the import tariffs.

That’s what our founding fathers did and it worked well for America

You can eliminate all regulations and all taxes and you still aren’t going to be competitive with Chinese labor willing to work for $2/day.

But there is no reason we should let our American industries be dismantled by competition from Chinese labor.

To make matters worse, Chinese policies keep the dollars from coming back to buy trade goods, but instead are buying U.S. Equities and Stocks. They are forcing us to liquidate America in order to get those cheap trade goods. It’s time to raise the import tariffs and protect American industry.
Our market is large enough and there is enough competition within our market that we don’t need external competition. Not when our unemployment is high like it is.


16 posted on 04/21/2014 8:17:55 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: KoRn

What I am seeing is loads of reqs for temp workers that demand a BEE deg and want to pay $12 hr.


17 posted on 04/21/2014 8:18:07 PM PDT by mylife
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To: mylife

Sure! ....And due to the “shortage” of skilled people(who will work for $12 per hour), they have to bring them in from India or somewhere!


18 posted on 04/21/2014 8:22:08 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: KoRn

It is craptacular out there.


19 posted on 04/21/2014 8:25:02 PM PDT by mylife
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To: DannyTN
That means raising the import tariffs, so that we stop the off-shoring of American industries.

If you believe economic resources are scarce (finite), then import duties won't accomplish what you hope to accomplish. Yes, import duties will protect domestic industries that cannot compete globally. But the resources used by those inefficient industries, are resources that cannot be employed by more efficient industries that can compete globally. In the end, we consumers have to pay higher prices for those protected goods, leaving us with fewer dollars to spend on other goods.

Are you really helping American workers this way? Yes, you are. But only some to the detriment of others! -- The extra dollar Joe Public has to spend for protected American orange juice, leaves him with one less dollar he can spend at *my* unprotected business.

It's easy to see the jobs lost in a non-competitive industry when those jobs are allowed to go away. What nobody sees is what other industries -- and the jobs they would create -- could emerge if those squandered resources were freed up.

I'm all in favor of reciprocal import duties on countries who put duties on our goods. But otherwise, let each country dominate in the industries where they have a competitive advantage. When that happens, everybody wins.

I know many will flame me for this, so here is one case where I really do believe in protection. (Flame suit on.)

20 posted on 04/21/2014 8:29:10 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: onedoug

You’re kidding, right? I had a SAG card, had a fairly large role in a hit film and still got the feeling I’d have to sell my soul. I wouldn’t recommend anyone getting into that business. It’s evil. Lay down with dogs. Get up with fleas. And fleas can lead to heartworms.


21 posted on 04/21/2014 8:29:55 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: VerySadAmerican
And fleas can lead to heartworms.

Or these days, AIDS.

22 posted on 04/21/2014 8:31:00 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Contracting has pluses as well as minuses. It can lead to the creation of small businesses.


23 posted on 04/21/2014 8:34:00 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Hollywood is pretty evil today.

But they aren’t the only people making pictures.


24 posted on 04/21/2014 8:35:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: DannyTN

“That means raising the import tariffs, so that we stop the off-shoring of American industries.”

I agree with your comments except for the above. IMHO, we simply need to get the heel of the boot off Industry’s neck and allow industry to act on its own behalf in terms of who to hire, how long to work per week and how to administer their HR departments. Holder’s gestapo prevents all the above actions on the part of industry and we’re just plain stuck in the ditch as a result. It won’t get better til Holder and his boss, the other thug, are out.

Industry also needs to believe that the heel of the boot won’t come back down as soon as industry takes some tiny action that BIG gummint doesn’t fully subscribe to.


25 posted on 04/21/2014 8:36:44 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Sorry. Just trying to help.


26 posted on 04/21/2014 9:27:18 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: hinckley buzzard

No.


27 posted on 04/21/2014 9:28:34 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

Smiling but not LOL. It’s got to be pretty damned funny to get me to LOL. I usually just Ha!


28 posted on 04/21/2014 9:32:01 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: DannyTN

And perhaps get rid of non-Americans in the workforce and slow immigration.


29 posted on 04/21/2014 9:33:42 PM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: KoRn
Having said that, it can be better than nothing, and at many places these days, you’re hired as a ‘temp’ so they can try you out, as it’s an opportunity to get your ‘foot in the door’.

That's how it's "supposed to work". However, it is being used as a means to manage uncertainty - resolving the "immovable object meeting an irresistible force" situation.

In addition, more temporary labor exists in non-temp lines of work, the less prosperous the economy is at a given time and place. By extension, one could plausibly argue that it also indicates government intervention as well.

Given the above, it's part of why I dislike Obamacare. It completely disincentivizes the search for or providing of work, much less in good faith.

During these crazy days of repressive laws/regulation and the constant threat of being litigated into oblivion, many employers gain a layer of protection via ‘temp’ job agencies or hiring on contractors.

The protection might be there, but it does not come without cost. The good people end up leaving, knowing that they have options elsewhere. Anyone without an alternative gets to know what churn is in the job market.

By the sound of it, such a setup resembles a bad labor union. The dues system exists (wrap/conversion rates, fees to agency), the lack of support by the agency towards the participants, and that it disincentivises productivity towards the minimum required(versus the highest quality).

What happened to the time where employers could generally get along with and inspire their workforce, instead of having to handle them? Those kind of employers (for those that choose that path) could give a sense of pride in their employee's work, even if it paid less.

30 posted on 04/21/2014 9:39:13 PM PDT by setha (It is past time for the United States to take back what the world took away.)
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To: DannyTN
The temp phenomenon is driven in part by excess labor and insufficient demand.

Is that why the government is seeking to approve more visas for high tech workers? /s

I agree with your tariff perspective though.

31 posted on 04/21/2014 10:14:39 PM PDT by Barnacle (Is treason a high crime or misdemeanor?)
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To: DannyTN

You know what Danny, I think you’re right.

This Free Trade, Cheap Labor is killing America.


32 posted on 04/21/2014 10:35:11 PM PDT by crusher2013
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To: setha
What happened to the time where employers could generally get along with and inspire their workforce, instead of having to handle them?

Much of it has to do with technology, especially anything that is transmittable. Now the potential labor pool is global, which increases labor supply, and thus, exerts downward pressure on wages,

33 posted on 04/21/2014 10:38:38 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: VerySadAmerican
I had a SAG card, had a fairly large role in a hit film and still got the feeling I’d have to sell my soul. I wouldn’t recommend anyone getting into that business. It’s evil.

I agree that most of it is evil, but it's possible to pick up the odd few hundred or thousand bucks on an erratic basis by doing a bit part, doing a commercial, and working in other small ways. These don't require either magnificent acting skills, great beauty, or a willingness to get covered with fleas, because they just aren't important enough to attract dirty dogs. They're just something that's fun and interesting to do in order to pick up a little extra cash without actually trying to make a living in a vile business.

34 posted on 04/21/2014 10:49:48 PM PDT by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: Graewoulf

“As WORK is slowly regulated out o by the Rule of Obamanation a man’s JOB becomes finding a JOB.”

The pre-employment business is booming.


35 posted on 04/22/2014 1:42:03 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: dfwgator; setha

It’s worse than that.

Technology is increasingly doing the work that people once did.

And technology is not just replacing blue collar jobs, it’s replacing white collar jobs.

Think about it: why should someone pay another human for what he knows, when what he knows can be found on the net for free.

This man said it was going to happen: http://www.amazon.com/End-Work-Jeremy-Rifkin/dp/0874777798/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1398165267&sr=1-1&keywords=the+end+of+work

And when technology does all the work and no one has a job, what then?

I suspect either all technology is nationalized with the government issuing ration cards to all of us that we can exchange for technologically supplied goods and services.

Technology will result in a socialist dream.

Like I’ve been saying for years and years: technology is destroying freedom.


36 posted on 04/22/2014 4:23:12 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: setha
"What happened to the time where employers could generally get along with and inspire their workforce, instead of having to handle them? Those kind of employers (for those that choose that path) could give a sense of pride in their employee's work, even if it paid less."

I believe at MBA school now, they may Lobotomize the area of the student's brain that could initiate leadership qualities. (along with realism, mathematics, common sense, and human emotions)

37 posted on 04/22/2014 4:23:39 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: kevao
"Are you really helping American workers this way? Yes, you are. But only some to the detriment of others! -- The extra dollar Joe Public has to spend for protected American orange juice, leaves him with one less dollar he can spend at *my* unprotected business."

It's not really to the detriment of others. Keep in mind that you are paying for the unemployed workers. So you pay for the cheap import and then you turn around and have to pay for the unemployed Americans. If those Americans were working, then many good things happen.

It's easy to see the jobs lost in a non-competitive industry when those jobs are allowed to go away. What nobody sees is what other industries -- and the jobs they would create -- could emerge if those squandered resources were freed up.

Nobody is seeing it because it is not happening. We've been off-shoring for decades now. And we've reached a point where we are offshoring faster than new job creation is occurring. Worse, because we no longer have the manufacturing here, our ability to innovate is now impaired.

38 posted on 04/22/2014 7:17:31 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN


Could we ever hope to repeat the feat of the Arsenal of Democracy without American made machine tools?
39 posted on 04/25/2014 2:10:50 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: mylife

Where are you seeing that?


40 posted on 04/25/2014 2:29:44 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

On the job boards.


41 posted on 04/25/2014 7:36:41 AM PDT by mylife
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To: KoRn

“Having said that, it can be better than nothing, and at many places these days, you’re hired as a ‘temp’ so they can try you out, as it’s an opportunity to get your ‘foot in the door’. If you’re skilled and fit in, much of the time, they’ll hire you on with the company.”

That’s not always true. What is sometimes true though is that the “hope” of being hired direct after a period of Temp status is nothing but incentive to take the job as a Temp. The client company only needs the Temp to help with a temporary increase in workload. After that the client company says good-bye and they are back to business as usual until the next temporary increase in workload. If you were a good Temp, the client company may have you back...as a Temp.


42 posted on 04/25/2014 8:37:33 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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