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Senate candidate Monica Wehby tells GOP forum that abortion is 'personal decision'
Oregon Live ^ | January 24, 2014 at 4:09 PM | Jeff Mapes

Posted on 04/21/2014 8:29:23 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

Portland pediatric neurosurgeon Monica Wehby, continuing to separate herself from the four other Republican Senate candidates on the abortion issue, told a GOP forum in Baker City that she was personally pro-life but did not want the government involved in a woman's decision on whether to have one.

“I believe this is a personal decision between a women and her family, not a woman and the federal government,” said Wehby, according to the Baker City Herald.

Wehby and the four other Republican candidates -- state Rep. Jason Conger of Bend, Portland attorney Tim Crawley, former Linn County Chair Jo Rae Perkins and Salem information technology consultant Mark Callahan -- appeared at a Wednesday night forum.  They are competing for the GOP nomination for the seat held by Sen. Jeff Merkley, D-Ore.

Her comments defending abortion rights were stronger than those that she made when she entered the race and told The Oregonian, “The Supreme Court ruled that...abortion is supposed to be safe and legal. And that’s where we are. I don’t think this should be used as a litmus test for people.”

Conger has been endorsed by Oregon Right to Life, the state's major anti-abortion group. Conger and Wehby are the two candidates who have raised the most money and appear to be the front-runners in the primary race. 


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: jasonconger; jeffmerkley; monicawehby; oregeon
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1 posted on 04/21/2014 8:29:23 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie; aimhigh; pfflier; kingattax; BigEdLB; jcon40

Oregon Senate Candidate Monica Wehby is pro-abortion Ping!


2 posted on 04/21/2014 8:31:17 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie
Senate candidate Monica Wehby tells GOP forum that abortion is 'personal decision'

Yeah, it's a personal decision, but I doubt she told them it's murder too.

3 posted on 04/21/2014 8:31:25 PM PDT by umgud
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To: SoConPubbie

Like you or someone said: She is a “Democrat Trojan Horse masquerading as a Republican”.


4 posted on 04/21/2014 8:31:50 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: SoConPubbie
"...personally pro-life, but..."

What is a liberal abortionist doing running for a republican nom?

5 posted on 04/21/2014 8:31:53 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: SoConPubbie

Toast.
That is if I were an Oregonian.


6 posted on 04/21/2014 8:32:53 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: umgud

The only way the government gets out of the abortion business is to outlaw all abortion. That makes it a personal and very private decision, right?


7 posted on 04/21/2014 8:33:19 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: SoConPubbie

I’m all for getting the government out of the bedroom... as long it gets out of our kitchens, bathrooms and living rooms as well!


8 posted on 04/21/2014 8:33:59 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SoConPubbie

Cowardly stance.


9 posted on 04/21/2014 8:34:25 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conseravtives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Nice not knowing yuh ....


10 posted on 04/21/2014 8:34:27 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: SoConPubbie

11 posted on 04/21/2014 8:35:29 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: SoConPubbie

Wow! Hold me back, a wolf in sheep’s clothing? What next?
Any suggestions? This is another phony, saying all the right things until you get a peek into her heart and soul. I can wait until this is clarified, but it does not look good. I hope I am wrong.


12 posted on 04/21/2014 8:37:01 PM PDT by Fungi
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...told a GOP forum in Baker City that she was personally pro-life but did not want the government involved in a woman's decision on whether to have one.

Ummm. What about the baby's decision to be guaranteed the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness when it clashes with a "woman's" decision to have "one" (A BABY)? Who speaks for an innocent human being not yet able to speak for himself/herself?

13 posted on 04/21/2014 8:37:05 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Yuppers, huge blindspot.


14 posted on 04/21/2014 8:38:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Fungi

I think libertarianism should be principled. But liberals are statists not libertarians.


15 posted on 04/21/2014 8:38:33 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SoConPubbie

I feel the same way about bank robbery. I am personally against it but I fee it is s decision between the robber and the financial institution and not between the federal government and the robber.


16 posted on 04/21/2014 8:48:31 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: steve86

Bump


17 posted on 04/21/2014 8:53:55 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Pontius Pilot was personally against crucifying Jesus too, but ...


18 posted on 04/21/2014 8:54:52 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: SoConPubbie

She will come around, I think after everything she has been through.

Wouldn’t she be better than Merkley?


19 posted on 04/21/2014 9:05:07 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SoConPubbie; goodnesswins; PROCON; Twotone; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; ...

If you would like more information about what's happening in Oregon, please FReepmail me. I lost my Oregon list when my computer crashed recently, so please send me your name by FReepmail if you were on the previous list.

20 posted on 04/21/2014 9:05:47 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SoConPubbie

I am a very pro-life person. I would never vote for Merkley.


21 posted on 04/21/2014 9:07:18 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SoConPubbie

Where are the stories about Conger?


22 posted on 04/21/2014 9:08:22 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SoConPubbie
Your Body, Your Choice ends at the beginning of your baby's body.

Period.

23 posted on 04/21/2014 9:11:56 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: goldstategop

Libertarians are libertarians, and support abortion with zero limitations, restraints, or time limits.

There are no principles in the libertarian agenda.

Here is the leftists agenda hidden behind the Libertarian curtain.

Libertarian Party Platform:

Throw open the borders completely; only a rare individual (terrorist, disease carrier etc.) can be kept from freedom of movement through “political boundaries”.

Homosexuals; total freedom in the military, gay marriage, adoption, child custody and everything else.

Abortion; zero restrictions or impediments.

Pornography; no restraint, no restrictions.

Drugs; Meth, Heroin, Crack, and anything new that science can come up with, zero restrictions.

Advertising those drugs, prostitution, and pornography; zero restrictions.

Military Strength; minimal capabilities.


24 posted on 04/21/2014 9:12:10 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: SoConPubbie
Here we go again. Obama is now president again because many of those on the right will stay home unless the candidate sits in their church, in your pew and says your exact god words. They can't be any other god words they have to all exactly agree with you.

You folks will easily elect the next bunch of dems to our government. It is clearly what happened in the last election. Congratulations you got exactly what you wanted.

25 posted on 04/21/2014 9:12:36 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (Citizen.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Was Bob Packwood the first abortion booster elected to the Senate from OR, even before Roe v. Wade.


26 posted on 04/21/2014 9:13:48 PM PDT by Theodore R. (It was inevitable: Texans will always be for Cornball and George P.!)
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To: oldenuff2no

So you mock Christians, the people who make up the conservative vote, and who you want to defeat in elections, what an idiot you must be.

No wonder you come to the support of this pro-abortion rino/libertarian.


27 posted on 04/21/2014 9:17:40 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: SoConPubbie

Is murdering or raping someone a pesonal decision?


28 posted on 04/21/2014 9:20:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

No. In any decent society, freedom comes with certain limits. Liberals want to overregulate our lives; libetarians think MOST limits are far too overbearing.

You must have a middle ground. Conservatism is the default position between the extremes of the statist left and the anarchist right.


29 posted on 04/21/2014 9:26:56 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SoConPubbie

if she doesn’t want govt involved, does she want govt paying for it, or forcing businesses to pay for healthcare plans that offer it?


30 posted on 04/21/2014 9:38:58 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: nickcarraway

>>Is murdering or raping someone a pesonal decision?<<

In the eyes of the GOPe not.

If you will stand for nothing you will fall for anything.

It seems to be working.


31 posted on 04/21/2014 9:39:44 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: SoConPubbie

most people that don’t want to be judged by a certain test, know they’ll fail that test.


32 posted on 04/21/2014 9:40:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Of course not. Even if you favor abortion on demand, it does not follow others should be forced to pay for it.

Then its not really a personal and private decision, now is it?


33 posted on 04/21/2014 9:46:05 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: ansel12
Many more people than the hard right Christians make up the conservative vote. That is the part you do not get.

If it were your daughter carrying a baby by way of rape you would not be so sure of yourself.

The hard core christian right are far worse than the left for not being tolerant of others. That is just a fact.

Sometimes you have to take what you can get and try for more next time. The hard core right just takes their ball and goes home pouting like a child. They scream and yell that is everyone else's fault because they don't go exactly by your god words.

No. I do not say your god words, go to your church or sit in your pew. Look around you there are not that many people in your church. Without the rest of us not one of your candidates will ever win an election.

I have not told you who I am, what I believe or anything about me but you do not need all of that to make your judgment. (isn't there some kind of writing about judging others and who should be doing it?) You made your entire judgment solely on the fact that I am not just like you.

And you were saying?????

34 posted on 04/21/2014 9:53:18 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (Citizen.)
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To: oldenuff2no

All you have told me is that you are a DU escapee that hates Christians and conservatism and loves abortion and liberalism.

Do you ever wonder why almost everyone with your leftists views votes democrat, while about 80% of the Evangelicals that you hate, vote conservative?


35 posted on 04/21/2014 9:59:58 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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All you have told me is that you are a DU escapee that hates Christians and conservatism and loves abortion and liberalism.

I did not tell you that. You, not my friend, are a bold faced lair. Yes that is the accurate and correct term for you.

So now that we can all clearly see that I'm conversing with a liar I will continue.

Have I been on DU, yes I have. I get kicked off of there every time I do. It is just the mirrored reflection of FR. Over there if I do not repeat their secular humanism and socialist rant they like to make up things and lie about me too.

If you are pro second amendment then they call you a killer who just has not killed yet. Although I hate this kind of fantasy they are more honest about things than some are here.

You see over there they take credit for their beliefs while here many hide behind God so they do not have to have a logical and fact based discussion about a give subject.

What some here and some there share is the belief that no one can be right unless they totally agree with them.

Where it differs from DU to FR is that at DU they will come together to support the most liberal candidate that can win. Here, people politically castrate themselves jumping up on their high horse so they can preach to you and hide behind their God. Many here will not support any candidate who is not their chosen pew mate insuring that the liberals will win yet again.

After they cause the loss they will sit back and blame others for not being Godly enough.

You see I do not lie. I tell the truth. I am proudly a non God based moderate Republican. What scares the crap out of the far right and far left is that more than half of the voting population are in that middle moderate third politically.

The lesson that you should have learned in the last two presidential elections is that you have to deal with those who do not sit in your pew or you will just keep loosing. Every time you get a god hard right attack and sit out an election you will watch this country drift further to the left. That is your fault, plain and simple. You caused it, it is your fault.

The last thing you need to do is let your imagination get all ahead of you and think your hearing my voice telling you things I did not say, type, or take other credit for.

Your crystal ball is not even plugged in, you just do your best to label me with lies.

Let me rub some realistic sodium in that wound. Do you realize that there are many more Muslims on this earth than Christians? Every last one of them know they are right in their beliefs and know that you are wrong. You don't even have the majority on your side.

I do not sit back and just accept someone labeling me with their lies.

36 posted on 04/21/2014 11:18:25 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (Citizen.)
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To: ansel12
When they vote.

Problem is, they aren't voting.

The evidence is that in the last two Presidential elections they stayed home.

37 posted on 04/21/2014 11:22:35 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: oldenuff2no
It is pointless to have any kind of discussion with ansel12. He doesn't understand that 40% of libertarians identify with and vote pro-life. It also doesn't matter to him that regardless of where libertarians may stand on social issues, they're going to be against government involvement in morality, which is clearly a position superior to what statists believe, which is to force their morality on everyone at the point of a gun.

He keeps saying that all libertarians are just liberals. He's been repeatedly told they aren't. He doesn't care, and continues to misrepresent what libertarians believe.

Apparently he's unfamiliar with Proverbs. Yes, hands that shed innocent blood are an abomination to the Lord. So is a lying tongue.

38 posted on 04/21/2014 11:28:48 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: oldenuff2no
I am proudly a non God based moderate Republican. What scares the crap out of the far right and far left is that more than half of the voting population are in that middle moderate third politically.

Your pro-abortion/gay agenda anti-Reagan moderate just lost the presidential election, and was the first candidate to ever win the Independents hugely, and still lose, in an election that the GOP couldn't lose, against Jimmy Carter's second term.

It seems that you want to keep defeating conservatives and promoting liberalism.

39 posted on 04/21/2014 11:30:21 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
Do you ever wonder why almost everyone with your leftists views votes democrat, while about 80% of the Evangelicals that you hate, vote conservative?

So I will finish this. This part is just more bold faced lies. I have voted against the liberals in every election no matter who was running on the republican ticket. You are wrong and telling lies when you try and state you know how I voted.

And then you give me credit for hating evangelicals. I don't hate them, your words are just more lies based on your own limited political horizons.

80% of the evangelical voters can vote in a block for anyone they want but are totally unable, with just their own votes, to elect anyone to national office. You just made my point. You can not and will never win without the rest of the non god based conservatives out there.

If you want to come at me spouting crap and lies be my guest, but when your done, it is my turn.

40 posted on 04/21/2014 11:31:50 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (Citizen.)
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To: FredZarguna

Don’t start the trolling, libertarianism is pro-abortion and pro-gay and everything else listed in post 24.

If libertarians were conservatives, they wouldn’t be libertarians.

If you are posting about me, then ping me, especially when you are making up so much nonsense.


41 posted on 04/21/2014 11:33:59 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: oldenuff2no

What I pointed out to you, is that almost everyone with your anti-God, anti-Christian, pro-abortion views, are lefty voters already and always have been, and always will be.

You cannot throw away the conservatives and expect to win over the atheists, they will never abandon the far left.


42 posted on 04/21/2014 11:36:37 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

A lying tongue is an abomination to the Lord.


43 posted on 04/21/2014 11:37:44 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: ansel12
Your pro-abortion/gay agenda anti-Reagan moderate just lost the presidential election,

You are right, and that was my point. The hard right took their ball and went home when their guy did not get on the ticket. They sat out the election and watched the chosen republican loose. The did not support him that is why he lost.

I am pro abortion when it is a child who was raped and is pregnant. I am pro abortion when the mothers physical health is truly at risk. You see I do not believe that I have the right to play god and make those decisions for that family. It is tough enough without do-gooder outside religious zealots sticking their nose in a horrible situation.

I am not pro abortion for birth control or convenience reasons. I do not agree with all the mental health reasons they come up with. The physical health of the woman or in rape situations is where my personal lines are. I strongly believe in those two situations I have absolutely no right to stick my nose in their business.

44 posted on 04/21/2014 11:42:01 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (Citizen.)
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To: FredZarguna

Libertarianism is an abomination to the Lord.

1.4 Abortion
Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration.

1.3 Personal Relationships
Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government’s treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.


45 posted on 04/21/2014 11:43:42 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: FredZarguna
A lying tongue is an abomination to the Lord.

Is that why churches are so quiet?

46 posted on 04/21/2014 11:44:28 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (Citizen.)
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To: oldenuff2no

Who cares what you think, read the article and the abortion beliefs of the person being discussed.

The person you got on the thread to defend, is pro-abortion, which is against your party’s platform.


47 posted on 04/21/2014 11:46:50 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
It seems that you want to keep defeating conservatives and promoting liberalism.

No I'm one of those many people out there who scare the crap out of both the hard right and hard left. I'm a true moderate.

The far left and right share one thing. They can not tolerate anyone who does not play for one of the two political teams. The left and right both must capture the middle moderate or independent voters to win anything.

The statistical truth is that the majority of voters are neither far right nor far left they are in the middle third of that 180 degree graph. When we are out there making up our own minds and not paying attention to the propaganda it scares the crap out of both teams.

There is a mathematical truth out there that is an inevitability. Sooner or later there will be a third political party in national politics. It will be a moderate party and it will win. It will be a self identified Moderate party, not pretenders from the right or left, and that party will not loose.

The far right and far left will never be able to form any kind of coalition to defeat the moderate party. When this happens both extremes know they are history for many decades.

Since I do not stand quietly when attacked by the left or the right and I speak up and call them on their words, I scare both sides.

My truth is that Global warming is crap, I have a right to my guns and will not allow that to be degraded, God does not run the real world greedy men do, I'm against abortion except in two cases but in those two cases in is not my business, and last if your party wants to lie about others those who say those things or push those things are liars and can never be trusted. They are out of the running.

I like dealing in facts, provable facts. Don't give me some convoluted non proven theory about glo-bull warming. Just more lies. But do not give me something and back it because God wants it either. God never said those words to me so I call bull on that too.

I believe in being a moderate. There are millions out there just like me. Not too far in the furture both political parties are going to have to deal with us.

48 posted on 04/22/2014 12:20:53 AM PDT by oldenuff2no (Citizen.)
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To: oldenuff2no

No one is afraid you, they just pity you.

“”The left and right both must capture the middle moderate or independent voters to win anything.””

Evidently not, Obama overwhelmingly lost the independents, your Mitt Romney did smashingly well, hugely well with the moderates and independents.

INFOGRAPHIC: Obama Lost Independent Vote In Almost Every Swing State
The president only won the independent vote in one battleground state: North Carolina.
“Things looked very different for Obama in 2008, when independent voters came out in huge numbers to support him.
Just before Election Day, the Wall Street Journal reported those polling numbers had hardly changed, with Romney overwhelmingly leading among independent voters across the country. Republican pollster Bill McInteruff told the Journal the Democrats were “really flirting with trouble if you’re losing independents by this margin.””


49 posted on 04/22/2014 12:28:01 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: SoConPubbie

Thanks. Is Monica W the establishment backed candidate?


50 posted on 04/22/2014 2:28:50 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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