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Colo. lawmakers get blunt, move to tighten marijuana rules after two deaths
The Washington Times ^ | 4/21/14 | Valerie Richardson

Posted on 04/22/2014 5:54:36 AM PDT by catnipman

The Mile High City was jammed with pot revelers Sunday for the annual 4/20 festival, but the mood was far from celebratory Monday as state legislators moved to tighten rules on marijuana products in the wake of two tragic deaths.

The Colorado House passed unanimously bills to set possession limits for concentrated forms of marijuana such as hash oil, and to make cookies, candy and other foods infused with pot more easily identifiable.

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But industry officials aren’t thrilled with the edibles bill, which will require the state Department of Revenue to adopt rules by Jan. 1, 2016, that require edible retail pot products “to be shaped, stamped, colored, or otherwise marked with a standard symbol indicating that it contains marijuana and is not for consumption by children.”

During a committee hearing, proponents brought paper cups with pot-infused gummy bears and other candies that looked like the real thing. Each piece may contain up to 10 mg of THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: colorado; edibles; hashoil; legislature; libertarians; marijuana; medicalmarijuana; reefermadness; restrictions; thc
Very helpful but not quite enough. After a few more deaths from inconsistent dosages, next will be legislation to enforce quality-control during production. In the mean time, given legislated potency limits, anyone producing mislabeled or overly-potent goods that cause harm will be a rightful target for lawsuit.

Still the wild west in Colorado for pot compared to the control of the equally dangerous alcohol industry.

1 posted on 04/22/2014 5:54:37 AM PDT by catnipman
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To: catnipman

Once the cops declare the guy at fault being doped-up....it’s downhill from that point on. Sue the doper....due the shop that sold him the stuff....and sue the state for allowing an accident mentality to be prevalent. It’d even be better if you were a resident from Alabama....passing through the state, and drag them back to Alabama for the entire case.


2 posted on 04/22/2014 5:57:16 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: catnipman

I think we can all agree personal responsibility has no place in America.


3 posted on 04/22/2014 6:05:59 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: pepsionice
Can be looked at another way as well:

Sue the drunk....due the distributor that sold him the alcohol....and sue the state for allowing an accident mentality to be prevalent.

And maybe it should be.

4 posted on 04/22/2014 6:06:20 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: catnipman

If it moves, tax it.
If it continues to move, regulate it.
When it stops moving, subsidizes it.


5 posted on 04/22/2014 6:08:29 AM PDT by 3rd of the 12 CAV (Socialized medicine is a 10 month wait for a maternity ward)
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To: Wolfie
I think we can all agree personal responsibility has no place in America.

We have a constitutional right to a risk-free life.

6 posted on 04/22/2014 6:15:54 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

I want a Whiffle Life on a Nerf Planet.


7 posted on 04/22/2014 6:32:09 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: catnipman

simple solution: require all pot users be LICENSED in order to buy or possess or use.

No license no sale, no buy, no use.

ALSO

if you have a pot user license then you are forbidden from having a driver’s license of ANY kind. (CDL, DL, motorcycle, etc)


8 posted on 04/22/2014 6:42:48 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: catnipman

“Dan Anglin, managing partner of Edipure Brands, countered at another hearing with his own show-and-tell: containers of liquid that looked like apple juice, lemonade and water, but were in fact alcoholic beverages and bleach.

His point: That many food and drink items look like something else when they’re not in their proper packages, and that Colorado’s recreational pot edibles meet international child-resistant packaging standards.”

I’m sure a child would drink a cup of bleach or gin without knowing, just like they would THC candy and cookies. ( eyeroll)

Liberal dopeheads are to stupid to be walking free in society without adult supervision.


9 posted on 04/22/2014 6:50:20 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: catnipman

Ah the law of unintended consequences.....Just more proof that the government is incapable of long term thinking


10 posted on 04/22/2014 7:02:02 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: catnipman
Colo. lawmakers get blunt...

Oh har har. So clever.

11 posted on 04/22/2014 7:03:27 AM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

That already happens.....If you are at a bar ( at least in California don’t know about other states) if a liquor server continues to serve you they too are liable if you injure someone or something in a car wreck.

The state always claims non suability so that won’t happen


12 posted on 04/22/2014 7:04:14 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: tacticalogic

nicely played


13 posted on 04/22/2014 7:04:42 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: catnipman

NOTE TO SELF: When in Colorado selling AR and AK 30 round magazines out of the car trunk, DO NOT EAT LOCAL PRODUCED FOODS! Eat canned foods from out of state.


14 posted on 04/22/2014 7:10:59 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

Sue the cigarette company.....oh already did that.


15 posted on 04/22/2014 7:14:16 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: catnipman

The pot industry has officials?


16 posted on 04/22/2014 7:14:54 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mohammed was a Child Rapist and Islam is a Totalitarian Death Cult.)
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To: catnipman

Adds new meaning to the phrase: “Stoned to Death.”


17 posted on 04/22/2014 7:16:50 AM PDT by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: Beagle8U

“I’m sure a child would drink a cup of bleach or gin without knowing, just like they would THC candy and cookies. ( eyeroll)”

I worked in an ER for years. If you leave something that looks like food or drink laying around, a child will pick it up and put it in their mouth. That is a fact. It keeps poison control in business.


18 posted on 04/22/2014 7:17:31 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: catnipman

How many people have to die to get these drugs off the market? How many have developed A Fib, or Jaw Degeneration which is irreversible, and means NO dental work.

When I was put on Fosamax NO warnings were given from the FDA by the doctor. After bone, joint pain went out the roof, stomach pain, and a few more nasty side effects, it went in the trash. Now they are pushing the 6 month Prolia, NO WAY, I don’t want a drug in my system that long with the side effects that go with all this class of drugs! I already have 3 drug INDUCED health issues for life.

OP DRUGS

FDA ALERT RECLAST higher risk of Kidney Failure and A Fib.
http://www.natap.org/2011/newsUpdates/090911_03.htm

Reclast UPS kidney failure, A FIB risk.
http://www.webmd.com/osteoporosis/news/20110901/fda-osteoporsis-drug_ups-kidney-failure-risk

Safety update for osteoporosis drugs, bisphosphonates, and atypical fractures
http://www.fda.gov/drugs/drugsafety/drugsafetypodcasts/ucm229800.htm

Foreto warnings
http://medsfacts.com/study-FORTEO-causing-TREMOR.php

FDA ALERT RECLAST higher risk of Kidney Failure and A Fib.
http://www.natap.org/2011/newsUpdates/090911_03.htm

Reclast UPS kidney failure, A FIB risk.
http://www.webmd.com/osteoporosis/news/20110901/fda-osteoporsis-drug_ups-kidney-failure-risk

Safety update for osteoporosis drugs, bisphosphonates, and atypical fractures
http://www.fda.gov/drugs/drugsafety/drugsafetypodcasts/ucm229800.htm

Information for Healthcare Professionals: Bisphosphonates (marketed as Actonel, Actonel+Ca, Aredia, Boniva, Didronel, Fosamax, Fosamax+D, Reclast, Skelid, and Zometa)


19 posted on 04/22/2014 7:21:04 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: dangerdoc

I remember when our children were toddlers I was so paranoid of leaving anything on the floor. If they can fit it in their mouth they will eat it.


20 posted on 04/22/2014 7:21:24 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Ghost of SVR4

What do you do with a 50+ male alcoholic, that can’t go half a hr with out a shot of Everclear? This is my baby bro. DT’s in 30 mins. No legal way to get him committed.

My middle sis takes care of him. I’m 65, he looks and acts 100, can barely walk. I expect that phone call any day I don’t want to hear.

But you can’t force adults into treatment, unless you have power of attorney over them.

Thank GOD he has no driver’s license or car. He stunk so bad, she moved him to a small travel trailer behind her house in the mountains of Servile, TN. He ruined her bedroom with his spills, smoking, and no bathing.


21 posted on 04/22/2014 7:27:48 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: dangerdoc

“I worked in an ER for years. If you leave something that looks like food or drink laying around, a child will pick it up and put it in their mouth. That is a fact. It keeps poison control in business.”

They won’t drink it down thinking it’s kool aid like they would dope cookies.

Booze and bleach don’t taste like candy to a small child.


22 posted on 04/22/2014 7:46:54 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: catnipman

Colorado is national embarassment bump for later....


23 posted on 04/22/2014 7:48:01 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: Beagle8U

In the old days, they used alcohol tincture.


24 posted on 04/22/2014 7:49:05 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: longtermmemmory

Simple solution: require all alcohol users to be LICENSED in order to buy or possess or use.

No license no sale, no buy, no use

ALSO

if you have an alcohol user license then you are forbidden from having a driver’s license of ANY kind. (CDL, DL, motorcycle, etc)


25 posted on 04/22/2014 8:21:47 AM PDT by stremba
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To: stremba

one joint and you are incapable of legally driving.

not so with alchol. We are talking about pot, not red herrings.


26 posted on 04/22/2014 8:22:47 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: stremba

PS: we already have DWI law regarding impairment and specifically for alchol content based on the chemical action of such liquid.

Pot is instantly incapacitating. Just look at the you tube videos and contless articles which show how post impairs visual and physical acuity with artistry.


27 posted on 04/22/2014 8:24:54 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
one joint and you are incapable of legally driving.

Undoubtedly, that is true in most states, but is it true in Colorado (or Washington)? I'm not sure what the law is regarding driving under the influence of marijuana in states where it's legal.

If you are talking about being impared, then that's a different question. There have been studies that show that driving ability is impaired even below legal limits. The question is one of degree. Do we really want to treat someone who's had one drink and is slightly impaired similarly to someone who's got a 0.15% BAC and is severely impaired? Probably not.

Similarly, I am sure that smoking one joint would cause impairement, but how much? Even if smoking one joint causes enough impairment to legitimately charge such a person with DUI, why should someone who uses marijuana be legally disallowed from driving? Do you really think that marijuana users are CONSTANTLY high? Why should someone not be allowed to drive to work in the morning, home in the afternoon, and then smoke a joint without doing any more driving (assuming that you're talking about a state like CO where that's legal)?

28 posted on 04/22/2014 8:31:34 AM PDT by stremba
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To: Beagle8U

Kids eat and drink like they run and jump, the deed is done before the brain reacts. I’m not arguing putting drugs in candy is a good idea, it is a recipe for disaster but kids do gulp down chemicals, it happens every day.


29 posted on 04/22/2014 8:35:53 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: stremba

reality states you are impaired.

Pot does make users less able to function in society, financial independence (hold a job), and it ages the body faster.

IOW makes good government dependent democrats...duuuude.

just of added nail on the pot users coffin:

“According to the National Institute on Drug Abuse, marijuana is the number-one illicit drug of choice in America. The psychoactive chemical in marijuana, or cannabis, is delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), which binds to numerous cannabinoid receptors in the brain and throughout the body when smoked or ingested, producing a distinctive high. Cannabinoid receptors in the brain influence a range of mental states and actions, including pleasure, concentration, perception of time and memory, sensory perception, and coordination of movement. There are also cannabinoid receptors throughout the body involved in a wide range of functions of the digestive, cardiovascular, respiratory and other systems of the body. Currently two subtypes of cannabinoid receptors are known, CB1 and CB2, the former being involved mostly in functions of the central nervous system and the latter more in functions of the immune system and in stem cells of the circulatory system.”

http://kcdrugfree.areavoices.com/2011/06/11/molecular-imaging-shows-chronic-marijuana-smoking-affects-brain-chemistry/

This does not even address the fact that pot impairs glucose metabolism. (just search on the net) No sugar no brain function. (iow democrat zombies)


30 posted on 04/22/2014 8:47:30 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
"One joint and you are incapable of legally driving. Not so with alchol."

Spot on correct. Pot and alchohol are by no means equivalent.

More importantly, the motivations of people who consume alchohol, for the most part, are substantially different than pot smokers - and motivation definitely matters.
31 posted on 04/22/2014 9:00:22 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: Wolfie

“I think we can all agree personal responsibility has no place in America.”

Agreed. It’s completely unreasonable to have an expectation that when I consume a substance that it is what the label says it is, that it is at the concentration specified on the label, and that it’s not lethal because it has never been tested. Pretty much anybody should be able to freely sell any poison or unadulterated product as they see fit and label it anything they want to. Buyer beware and every man for himself I always say!


32 posted on 04/22/2014 11:17:13 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: pepsionice

“Once the cops declare the guy at fault being doped-up....it’s downhill from that point on. Sue the doper....due the shop that sold him the stuff....and sue the state for allowing an accident mentality to be prevalent. It’d even be better if you were a resident from Alabama....passing through the state, and drag them back to Alabama for the entire case.”

It will be the defense attorney asserting that claim, and diminished mental capacity is a valid defense in Colorado. And yes, I would love to see the “legal” pot industry sued out of existence for purveying substances that maim and kill.


33 posted on 04/22/2014 11:19:37 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

Unanimous? Not one elected official had the wisdom and courage to say, ‘Its not the job of the gov’t to keep your kids from accidentally eating pot brownies’?


34 posted on 04/22/2014 11:22:37 AM PDT by TeachableMoment
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To: TeachableMoment

“Unanimous? Not one elected official had the wisdom and courage to say, ‘Its not the job of the gov’t to keep your kids from accidentally eating pot brownies’?”

Agreed. Nor is it the job of any government to set any standards whatsoever to help give me confidence that when I consume a medication, substance or food product that it is what the label says it is, that it is at the concentration specified on the label, and that it’s not unknowingly lethal. Pretty much anybody should be able to freely sell any poison or adulterated product as they see fit and label it anything they want to completely free of any government interference. Buyer beware and every man for himself I always say!


35 posted on 04/22/2014 12:59:26 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

You forgot the /s. At times I can’t tell who is standing on the very end of a branch and who is shaking the tree.


36 posted on 04/22/2014 2:03:57 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: tacticalogic
We have a constitutional right to a risk-free life.

And Darwin rightfully kills off the self destructive dopeheads.

37 posted on 04/22/2014 2:46:22 PM PDT by Vision Thing (obama wants his suicidal worshipers to become suicidal bombers.)
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To: indthkr
More importantly, the motivations of people who consume alchohol, for the most part, are substantially different than pot smokers

All those people bellied up to the bar aren't looking for a buzz?

38 posted on 04/22/2014 3:53:38 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic
"All those people bellied up to the bar aren't looking for a buzz?"

Yep - those folks fall in the same category as the pot smokers.

I was refering to the folks who have a glass of wine with dinner, or a couple of beers to wash down some chips while they watch TV. I suspect they far outnumber the people camped out on bar stools...
39 posted on 04/22/2014 8:14:52 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: dangerdoc

“You forgot the /s”

Sorry. These nimrods that think no laws at all about anything at all are pissing me off. They’re as bad as the “Progressives” who want to legislate EVERYTHING. There is such thing as the middle way. Of course, that requires wisdom and it’s far easier to simply take extremist, mindless, knee-jerk positions than to actually exercise the grey matter a tiny bit.


40 posted on 04/22/2014 9:29:55 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: indthkr

Everybody’s got an excuse.


41 posted on 04/23/2014 2:46:09 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: catnipman

Wow. This thread is riddled with posters that have no idea what they are talking about.


42 posted on 04/23/2014 7:22:09 AM PDT by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: Wolfie
"I think we can all agree personal responsibility has no place in America."

Well you have a point. But not everybody can afford to just pick up and leave Colorado.

43 posted on 04/23/2014 1:40:59 PM PDT by DannyTN
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