Skip to comments.Arizona Official: Cliven Bundy's Acts Are Legal
Posted on 04/22/2014 6:39:28 AM PDT by xzins
The Nevada cattle rancher at the center of a land dispute with the federal government should not have to surrender his property, an Arizona official says, because he has been acting within the boundaries of the law.
Barry Weller, vice chairman of the Apache County Board of Supervisors, told J.D. Hayworth and John Bachman on "America's Forum" Monday on Newsmax TV that he thinks Cliven Bundy was right in standing up to the Bureau of Land Management, which sought to seize his ranch.
Bundy says his family has homesteaded since 1877 on the land, which the federal government says belongs to the United States. As part of a conservation effort to protect the endangered desert tortoise, the Bureau of Land Management banned cattle grazing on the land in 1989. Bundy continued to graze his cattle and refused to pay fines levied against him, calling the federal policy a land grab.
The case is similar to another in Nevada, in which Wayne Hage won a protracted battle with the federal government by successfully arguing that he had the right to graze his cows within two miles of water sources he developed.
"The Bundys and the Hages are standing on what's called their water rights and their grazing rights," which, Weller said, "were pre-existing in territorial times, long before the government took over and these states became states and these water rights are mentioned, and any federal law or policy act that comes thereafter is always stated, 'subject to pre-existing rights.'
"So, when people say they're not legally doing what they're doing, they are. They are doing what they're supposed to be doing: standing for their rights," Weller said.
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This really is the opportunity to start rolling back the dead weight of Washington on so many fronts.
Good news and reference!
Stolen, Executed and Buried !
Not a thought of returning the cattle to their owner, paying for the cattle or even giving the beef to a charity.
Even the seize and impound order was questionable.
The US feral government should be forced to divest itself of all American lands and turn them over to the states.
There’s nothing about the BLM’s entire operation so far that strikes me as remotely necessary, and, to be honest, remotely legal.
I hate the lockstep media’s talking point: “Bundy was a tax dodger, but the blm shouldn’t have used snipers.”
If they think Bundy should pay for his cows eating open range grass, do they think they should pay fees when they drive across so-called federal land?
Good point and I know on the Bundy’s blog they said damage was done to their infrastructure
but the Fox reporter on the scene said he saw no evidence of damage.
this from the link
“ A Fox News reporter, among others, who viewed the bull holding pens after the livestock were euthanized noted that any evidence of wild behavior such as damaged gates or fencing were not evident.”
I have no doubt the Fed pigs killed and destroyed but it won’t be portrayed that way in the MSM
Those lands should have been disposed of long before now. Nevada’s been a state since the Civil War.
It’s not like the Fed hasn’t had time to do something with them. Oh wait....they did...they identified them as OPEN RANGE.
Therefore, they now belong to Nevada.
The BLM was already under indictment in Wyoming, I think, for their helicopter herding techniques.
They had experience to know that they were going to kill a lot of those cattle.
There is a growing movement by states in the West to claim BLM land.
If they can do so, I am all for it. However, those lands have used by the Fedgov as collateral for loans. I don’t seem the Fedgov letting them go that easily, and with the recent change in the narrative to be “We have the guns, so we make the rules” it may come down to troops sent to the state house of those nine states.
If it does work, it means that the USA will probably stop being a going concern real soon (actually that will happen one way or another). New York and Connecticut can’t enforce their laws inside their own borders, and the BLM almost got shot to pieces doing something they have done for years. When the state loses the monopoly of force (We have the guns, we make the rules), it will soon stop being a state. For New York, this means that Bloomberg and his cronies are going to have a hard time enforcing their will on upstate folks. For the Fedgov, it means they will have to either send troops in, or let the West go increasingly its own way. Either choice will lead to fracture.
whats disturbing is that BLM has its own army. What happened to the normal process of law enforcement. BLM are not law enforcers
This sound very much like Babylon 5’s Nightwatch, where the earth alliance president have its own private paramilitary force that answer to him alone and not thru the normal chain of command
Article 1 Section 8 paragraph 27. The Federal Government is limited to own 10 square miles in a ny given state.
BLM = Nigthwatch
Nope. The paragraph in question states: "To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings".
Ten miles square is not the same as ten square miles. Ten miles square is a square that is ten miles long by ten miles wide, and would be 100 square miles in size.
This was the clause that was used to establish the District of Columbia that was to be the Federal Capital, and used land that was originally part of Virginia and Maryland.
This really pisses me off. How dare they do this?
Here’s a family that is part of the community, productive and dates back a century and a half and these thugs come along and try to bully them around.
One report said that one animal had seven shots to the head.
Hey Reid, who’s the domestic terrorist?