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Ohio woman, 89, chooses moving over quitting smoking
CBS ^ | 4/21/14

Posted on 04/22/2014 8:57:29 AM PDT by Drango

MILFORD, Ohio - An 89-year-old southwest Ohio woman is preparing to move out of her home of the last 10 years because it has gone smoke-free.

The Cincinnati Enquirer reports that Beulah "Billie" Toombs faces eviction after being deemed non-compliant by her apartment building's management. A smoker for seven decades or so, she thinks she should be allowed to do what she wants in her own home.

But more than a year ago, the management of the apartments for low-income seniors announced a smoke-free policy. Residents already there were allowed one year of smoking with some conditions. When the smoke-free policy kicked in this year, neighbors reported Toombs' smoking, and a regular apartment inspection this month found cigarette butts and ashtrays in her unit.

So Toombs is looking for a new home.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: statist; tobacconazi; totalitarian
apartments for low-income seniors

Why is it poor people get tax funded rent subsidies when they can afford to buy smokes?

1 posted on 04/22/2014 8:57:29 AM PDT by Drango
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To: Drango

Doesn’t she realize that smoking will shorten her life?


2 posted on 04/22/2014 8:59:22 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Drango

Ja! Er ist der Sieg!


3 posted on 04/22/2014 9:02:32 AM PDT by Seruzawa (Get ready, little lady. Hell is coming to breakfast.)
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To: Seruzawa

The fact is, poor people sucking on the government teat are also sucking on cigarettes. Clearly they have disposable income to spend on cigarettes....the rhetorical question is why aren’t they putting those dollars to use on housing?


4 posted on 04/22/2014 9:10:45 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

You sound like a lib smoke Nazi.


5 posted on 04/22/2014 9:19:19 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Drango
...she thinks she should be allowed to do what she wants in her own home.

Then BUY one. It is her dwelling, but not HER home until she owns it.

6 posted on 04/22/2014 9:19:24 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: ifinnegan
You sound like a lib smoke Nazi.

You sound like an addict that pimps death and addiction.

7 posted on 04/22/2014 9:27:28 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: JimRed

Quite correct. If you have enough money you can do what ever you want. If not, you do what those with money will allow you to do.


8 posted on 04/22/2014 9:28:44 AM PDT by PatrioticRose
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To: Drango

Ah, the shoe fits, it quacks like a duck.


9 posted on 04/22/2014 9:29:23 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan; Drango
What specifically do you disagree with in the post from Drango?
10 posted on 04/22/2014 9:29:25 AM PDT by FreedomOfExpression
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To: FreedomOfExpression

His liberal fascism.


11 posted on 04/22/2014 9:31:01 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan
What specific point in Drango’s initial post do you disagree with? Or should I even bother to ask at this point?
12 posted on 04/22/2014 9:34:04 AM PDT by FreedomOfExpression
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To: ElkGroveDan

That’s funny.

An old man once told me “If someone gives you money they’re going to tell you how to spend it.” In this case, they’re telling her “Take our rent subsidies and live under our rules.” That’s just the way it is.


13 posted on 04/22/2014 9:35:29 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Drango
A smoker for seven decades or so, she thinks she should be allowed to do what she wants in her own home.

It's not her home. It belongs to someone else and she entered into a legal agreement to lease space from them. If she can't abide by the agreement then she should find somewhere else.

14 posted on 04/22/2014 9:36:08 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Drango

“The fact is, poor people sucking on the government teat are also sucking on cigarettes. Clearly they have disposable income to spend on cigarettes...the rhetorical question is why aren’t they putting those dollars to use on housing?”

That he is fine with the government micromanaging how one spends their money.

If not smokes, then maybe mandated vitamins, or fruits and veggies, no meat, no sugar, no cigs, no beer.

He’s Bloomberg.


15 posted on 04/22/2014 9:39:02 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Drango

Intellectual consistency is not one of Free Republic’s strong suits. If she were Black and using food stamps to purchase lobster, people would understand your point.


16 posted on 04/22/2014 9:40:41 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Drango
...her own home. But more than a year ago, the management of the apartments for low-income seniors...

Ahh, yes! Another taxpayer funded "your own home."

I lived across the street from one of these places for years... Filled with able-bodied, able-minded lazy jerks. They'll do anything to STAY in "their own home," including not working and remaining drug-dependent.

Think I'm a heartless bastard? Fine. Never speak to me again, and don't take my money to pay for YOUR life.
17 posted on 04/22/2014 9:45:49 AM PDT by golux
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To: Drango

It’s amazing what passes for news these days.

1. Apartment complex posts new rules, gives 1-year to comply.
2. Woman who lived there for 10-years doesn’t want to comply so she moves.

Okay...and????


18 posted on 04/22/2014 9:51:22 AM PDT by MissTed ( Private Tagline - Do Not Read!)
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To: Drango

The government gets 2/3rd of the price right back in taxes.


19 posted on 04/22/2014 9:54:30 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Drango
Using here pot money for evil tobacco makes her unique?

Please, half the dealers in the country live in public housing or get subsidies to help with their rent. No one would dare throw them or their customers out because an inspector verified that the hair of the occupants constantly reeks of pot.

The Fedz run a campaign to demonize a group and even people who should know better hop on the bandwagon. It's all a matter of which people it's popular to vilify at the moment and this lady is among those the government says it's Ok to tar and feather.

20 posted on 04/22/2014 10:01:50 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: JimRed

“..she thinks she should be allowed to do what she wants in her own home.”

It’s an apartment! She will never own it (except maybe out here in San Francisco where people over 60 cannot be forced out of a rental property except for non-payment of the rent).


21 posted on 04/22/2014 10:02:24 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Drango; JRandomFreeper
I'd move, too. I made sure I'd own my own home outright when I was older. I do own it, so the govn. can leave me the hell alone. I also don't have to depend on the water company or the electric company or any outside source to keep me alive.

What I can't seem to stop are sales robo calls on my “unlisted” house phone so I turned it down so I can't hear it. They call and leave no message and there is one who is looking for someone I never heard of so they just want you to answer. Very few people have my cell number. Hopefully, sales people won't figure out how to mess with our cell phones. Phones are an intrusion on our privacy.

Mark Twain thought the same about mail. He never opened his mail. He said if it was important, someone would come see him about it and if it was unimportant, it wasn't worth opening anyway. I wonder what his attitude would be today with all the outside methods today wanting to contact us for nothing important.

22 posted on 04/22/2014 10:03:28 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Drango

Why are you so pathologically obsessed with smokers? You frighten me dude.......


23 posted on 04/22/2014 10:05:03 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: ifinnegan
He’s Bloomberg.

Hardly. If you can afford to buy cigs while using my tax dollars to subsidize your living quarters, then you don't need as many of my tax dollars to subsidize your living quarters.

24 posted on 04/22/2014 10:05:23 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: Drango

:: When the smoke-free policy kicked in this year, neighbors reported Toombs’ smoking ::

I love the sight of a good apparatchik in the morning! Dosvedanya, comrade!


25 posted on 04/22/2014 10:11:43 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The Acronym explains the science.)
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To: Drango

Same reason drug users get an EBT card.


26 posted on 04/22/2014 10:12:21 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Hot Tabasco

He’s always been this way on FR. One trick pony.

/johnny


27 posted on 04/22/2014 10:19:37 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Drango

she probably smokes 2-5 cigs a day. theyre something like 25 cents each in Ohio

drop in the bucket compared to housing costs


28 posted on 04/22/2014 10:37:36 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: ElkGroveDan

She’s been smoking for 68 years & her lung feels great!


29 posted on 04/22/2014 10:38:17 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Drango

Very sad that she is so addicted to nicotine.


30 posted on 04/22/2014 10:44:07 AM PDT by Reddy (bo stinks)
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To: Drango
she thinks she should be allowed to do what she wants in her own home
HAHAHAHA. What planet has this woman been living on?
31 posted on 04/22/2014 11:44:23 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Drango

An 89 year old smoker, who has smoked for 70 years ... I wouldn’t quit either ...


32 posted on 04/22/2014 12:23:05 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Reddy

Seriously she is 89 & in this particular case she did not suffer any fatal adverse consequences - To a smoker there is pleasure in smoking. What would be the point in her quiting now. She could cut a 1/2 second of her time in the 40. LOL


33 posted on 04/22/2014 12:27:59 PM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: Drango

I guess at 89 she can make up her own mind then.


34 posted on 04/22/2014 12:28:53 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Wolfie; Drango

>> Intellectual consistency is not one of Free Republic’s strong suits.

>> people would understand your point.

That’s a generous but casuistic remark concerning Drango’s perspective.


35 posted on 04/22/2014 12:37:25 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: spodefly

Reminds me of an interview of George Burns who was in his late 90’s at the time:

“Is it true that you smoke eight to ten cigars a day?”
“That’s true.”

“Is it true that you drink five martinis a day?”
“That’s true.”

“Is it true that you still surround yourself with beautiful young women?”
“That’s true.”

“What do your doctor’s say about all of this?”
“I don’t know .. they’re all dead.”


36 posted on 04/22/2014 12:37:32 PM PDT by stirrinthepuddin
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To: JRandomFreeper
He’s always been this way on FR. One trick pony.

I know, but I finally had to say something......

37 posted on 04/22/2014 12:49:13 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: Organic Panic

“HAHAHAHA. What planet has this woman been living on?”

The unbearable one that toxic liberals, and their followers have made.


38 posted on 04/22/2014 1:57:10 PM PDT by ourworldawry
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To: KSCITYBOY

I just feel sorry for people who are addicted to any substance. Very sad.


39 posted on 04/22/2014 2:27:48 PM PDT by Reddy (bo stinks)
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To: Drango
Why is it poor people get tax funded rent subsidies when they can afford to buy smokes?

I think it has something to do with helping them vote Democrat.

40 posted on 04/22/2014 2:29:25 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: ourworldawry

The same toxic liberals who gave her the taxpayer subsidized HUD apartment? She can solve her problem by ceasing to be a taker and finding housing on the free market, which is the path she’s apparently chosen.


41 posted on 04/22/2014 2:32:22 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: golux
and don't take my money to pay for YOUR life.

Yet the is a group of FReepers that believe 'cause they share her addiction, it's perfectly OK with them that she spend $5,000 a year on elective smokes while the taxpayers subsides her rent.

42 posted on 04/22/2014 3:20:45 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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